Came across this article this morning, and I can’t believe the cheek of what is being said.
More dunking on single young people who are as entitled to the PUP as any married individual or family unit. More moaning about how our expectations as workers have become too high , more ‘poor me-ing’ that he has to resort to notoriously underpaid labours from Bangladesh rather than try to pay a fair wage to a local worker.
There are no numbers in that article
Well that’s one hotel I won’t ever be staying at.
LMAO. What Bullshit.
I got a job offer for Grant Thornton.
I have an accounting Masters, and years of managerial experience, and the best they could do was 26k IN DUBLIN.
*”Eye Popping”* my fucking ass.
Capitalists: “We can charge whatever the market will bear for our products and/or services, because free market yo!”
Workers: “We can charge whatever the market will bear for our labour, because free market yo!”
Capitalists: “Noooo, this isn’t fair! Somebody must do something about this!”
Pay inflation is irrelevant if cost of living keeps increasing, as it is
>The Ballygarry Estate Hotel in Tralee employs 150. Owner Padraig McGillicuddy wants the work permit system to be expanded. He said food and beverage staff and spa therapists are hard to find.
Okay…
>He’s just recruited a chef from Bangladesh.
Alright…
>“There’s a global shortage,” he said. “They need 900,000 hospitality workers in the US. I’ve a relative who is trying to launch a ship on the Mississippi and can’t get a recruitment company to take it on.”
Um… Eh… Yeah I’m sure there’s other reasons too but okay…
>He claimed a generation got “free money” in the form of the pandemic unemployment payment. However, he said the payment had also been a lifeline to many other households.
Ah yes. That free money that had to be paid back.
>“I’m talking about a single demographic living at home with mam and dad with no expenses,” he said. “We can’t get 19 to 23-year-olds to work.”
And there it is. The admission that they aren’t willing to pay people more than the dole.
>Noel Keane, of Croí restaurant in Tralee, is among the exceptions. Kerry had one of the highest portions of PUP claimants in the country, but **all his kitchen staff have returned. “I increased the kitchen team by three and had multiple applications for each position,**” he said.
Huh. Strange that. Same part of the country but not experiencing the same problems. I wonder could pay and conditions be the difference here? Maybe? Doubt Mr. McGillicuddy will find out as he seems to think the solution is to look for solutions abroad rather than look to what solutions are available at home.
>*“If the going rate is significantly up, are we going to pay it? In some cases we are, in some case we’re not….. But the metrics wouldn’t be crazy. We are accountants after all.”*
So, if the market demands **€X** as worker pay, they’re just not gonna pay it and instead bitch about how impossible it is to get workers?
My eyes! The wages do nothing! (in more ways than one)
25+ years in hospitality. Trained chef, experienced front of house manager and experience in multi-site and large team management.
Was recently offered a counter manager job in AbraKebabra – €22,000.
These “articles” serve only to fuel the sentiment that we’re all lazy and refusing to go to work.
What demographic is this article intended for?
Lobby the government for a Job Guarantee – one where people get to work jobs that reduce the cost of living for everyone – like Building. Fucking. Houses. Already.
With a Job Guarantee you can be guaranteed a living wage job, and you can be directly working to reduce the cost of living for yourself and _everyone_ – through building houses, directly solving the housing crisis.
An added bonus, is that by permanently ending unemployment, private sector jobs will have to offer proper fucking living wages, to entice you out of the Job Guarantee program.
It’s amazing how news outlets and employers across the world are like “It’s mad, we have no idea how to get more people to work”. How about offering then more money?
“I’m talking about a single demographic living at home with mam and dad with no expenses,” he said. “We can’t get 19 to 23-year-olds to work.”
Businesses need to wake up and see that the extortionate cost of housing has left many younger people having no other option but to live at home. They need to start lobbying the government to lower this cost just like they did with the cost of insurance
Something to do with said roles being in Dublin where there is even more eye poppinger(?) rents?
Capitalism when labour is cheap and capitalism when labour is expensive.
No business has a forgiven right to low wage workers.
Here’s hoping they don’t brow beat the government into importing cheap third world labour just to create wage compression for worki class Irish people.
The immigration flood gates will be opened wide before there’s a risk of anyone working in the service industry getting more than €30k.
I heard state Street moaning about this on newstalk. It’s not enough because they treat all their no admin staff like shitl
Pay inflation? I went for a managerial position last week in a well known company, job is in Dublin, and was offered €23000 starting. I have 15 years experience. Absolute joke.
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Came across this article this morning, and I can’t believe the cheek of what is being said.
More dunking on single young people who are as entitled to the PUP as any married individual or family unit. More moaning about how our expectations as workers have become too high , more ‘poor me-ing’ that he has to resort to notoriously underpaid labours from Bangladesh rather than try to pay a fair wage to a local worker.
There are no numbers in that article
Well that’s one hotel I won’t ever be staying at.
LMAO. What Bullshit.
I got a job offer for Grant Thornton.
I have an accounting Masters, and years of managerial experience, and the best they could do was 26k IN DUBLIN.
*”Eye Popping”* my fucking ass.
Capitalists: “We can charge whatever the market will bear for our products and/or services, because free market yo!”
Workers: “We can charge whatever the market will bear for our labour, because free market yo!”
Capitalists: “Noooo, this isn’t fair! Somebody must do something about this!”
Pay inflation is irrelevant if cost of living keeps increasing, as it is
>The Ballygarry Estate Hotel in Tralee employs 150. Owner Padraig McGillicuddy wants the work permit system to be expanded. He said food and beverage staff and spa therapists are hard to find.
Okay…
>He’s just recruited a chef from Bangladesh.
Alright…
>“There’s a global shortage,” he said. “They need 900,000 hospitality workers in the US. I’ve a relative who is trying to launch a ship on the Mississippi and can’t get a recruitment company to take it on.”
Um… Eh… Yeah I’m sure there’s other reasons too but okay…
>He claimed a generation got “free money” in the form of the pandemic unemployment payment. However, he said the payment had also been a lifeline to many other households.
Ah yes. That free money that had to be paid back.
>“I’m talking about a single demographic living at home with mam and dad with no expenses,” he said. “We can’t get 19 to 23-year-olds to work.”
And there it is. The admission that they aren’t willing to pay people more than the dole.
>Noel Keane, of Croí restaurant in Tralee, is among the exceptions. Kerry had one of the highest portions of PUP claimants in the country, but **all his kitchen staff have returned. “I increased the kitchen team by three and had multiple applications for each position,**” he said.
Huh. Strange that. Same part of the country but not experiencing the same problems. I wonder could pay and conditions be the difference here? Maybe? Doubt Mr. McGillicuddy will find out as he seems to think the solution is to look for solutions abroad rather than look to what solutions are available at home.
>*“If the going rate is significantly up, are we going to pay it? In some cases we are, in some case we’re not….. But the metrics wouldn’t be crazy. We are accountants after all.”*
So, if the market demands **€X** as worker pay, they’re just not gonna pay it and instead bitch about how impossible it is to get workers?
My eyes! The wages do nothing! (in more ways than one)
25+ years in hospitality. Trained chef, experienced front of house manager and experience in multi-site and large team management.
Was recently offered a counter manager job in AbraKebabra – €22,000.
These “articles” serve only to fuel the sentiment that we’re all lazy and refusing to go to work.
What demographic is this article intended for?
Lobby the government for a Job Guarantee – one where people get to work jobs that reduce the cost of living for everyone – like Building. Fucking. Houses. Already.
With a Job Guarantee you can be guaranteed a living wage job, and you can be directly working to reduce the cost of living for yourself and _everyone_ – through building houses, directly solving the housing crisis.
An added bonus, is that by permanently ending unemployment, private sector jobs will have to offer proper fucking living wages, to entice you out of the Job Guarantee program.
It’s amazing how news outlets and employers across the world are like “It’s mad, we have no idea how to get more people to work”. How about offering then more money?
“I’m talking about a single demographic living at home with mam and dad with no expenses,” he said. “We can’t get 19 to 23-year-olds to work.”
Businesses need to wake up and see that the extortionate cost of housing has left many younger people having no other option but to live at home. They need to start lobbying the government to lower this cost just like they did with the cost of insurance
Something to do with said roles being in Dublin where there is even more eye poppinger(?) rents?
Capitalism when labour is cheap and capitalism when labour is expensive.
No business has a forgiven right to low wage workers.
Here’s hoping they don’t brow beat the government into importing cheap third world labour just to create wage compression for worki class Irish people.
The immigration flood gates will be opened wide before there’s a risk of anyone working in the service industry getting more than €30k.
I heard state Street moaning about this on newstalk. It’s not enough because they treat all their no admin staff like shitl
Pay inflation? I went for a managerial position last week in a well known company, job is in Dublin, and was offered €23000 starting. I have 15 years experience. Absolute joke.