Judge in case of three young men who drove teenager to beach and gang raped her urged to consider their youth when sentencing

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  6. 2 of the 3 had a shed load of prior convictions too and still claim to be “innocent”

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    *edited to add a bit more

  8. I know everyone is entitled to a legal defence, and those legal defenders have to do whatever it takes to do the best for their clients – but this leaves such a disgusting taste in one’s mouth.

  9. Why are the two other men who raped her not part of this trial? Being tried separately?

    Anyways, fuck their age. Youth might be a bit of an excuse for doing something foolish, not a gang rape.

  12. If you had few convictions anyone can make a mistake (multiple conviction can be from same incident)
    If you have 224 you are scumbag

    Hang em high

    Wonder how barristers can represent scum
    I’d feel dirty Saul Goodman could not put a spin on these xxxxs

  14. “The court heard Rooney has 225 previous convictions, including violent disorder, drugs, public order offences, trespass, theft and road traffic matters. Mr McGinn said that since serving a prison sentence for prior offences and since becoming a father, Rooney has resolved to put his “petty offending, violence and drug use” behind him. He said sexual offending was completely out of character for Rooney.”

    Only 225…and the rape was out of character of course. Well, he must be a lovely lad.

    “Mr Nicholas said Ryan has matured in the last six years since the offence. Although he maintains he did not commit a crime, he is “reconsidering whether consent was given”, the court heard. ”

    Nice of Mr Ryan to reconsider his rapist ways. I wonder if the victim appreciates his slight change of heart?

    I seriously wonder how these barristers can sleep at night defending these scumbags.

  16. 225 convictions? Time to go to bed for me, I do apologise for annoying the bollox off r/ireland but I think this bit of news is where I stop messing and taking the piss

  17. I’d urge him to look at keeping society safer for as long as possible by locking them up for as long as possible.
    Any pack of feral creatures like these have something fundamentaly wrong with them and need to be removed from society.
    That could be any of our daughters.

  19. That headline is enough for me, I couldn’t take the article.

    As a father of a young daughter, I fear for what actions I would take against people like this – especially if the system didn’t do its fucking job.

    I believe in recourse & rehabilitation… to an extent. These people should rot.

  21. I know it’s his job. But I do wonder how anyone can plead for leniency with a straight face in these cases.

  25. Will they consider her youth? Her young adulthood? Her life when she’s a grown woman?

    But yeah, please, consider *their* youth.

    For half a second before dismissing it out of hand.

  26. There’s an Irish play and book called “Asking for it” which just proves how common this is:

    – Lads gang rape a girl
    – “think about their future!”
    – No consideration for the girls future and trauma

    Fuck their youth, they are monsters!

  29. That poor woman. I’m so angry a jury couldn’t come to a decision so they re traumatised her with another trial.

  31. Hundreds of previous convictions, no admission of guilt or remorse shown at all. There is zero chance of rehabilitation with these scumbags.

    Should lock them up and throw away the key. But it wouldn’t shock me if they walk free.

  32. The problem isn’t with the barrister making the argument: it will be if the judge listens.

    I don’t see how a reasonable judge can hear that as anything other than lawyer-speak for: “Your Honour I can find literally no substantial argument in favour of your being lenient on my client. So I’ll just point out that they’re young enough that they might theoretically become less horrible as they age. Please show them some mercy”.

    There are countries where a defence lawyer will stand up in court and say: “Your Honour, my client is an indefensible scumbag, please ensure that he is punished to the full extent of the law” (which is clearly what these guys deserve), but they don’t tend to be ones where the guilty are generally held to account for their crimes. They tend to be places where the police already decide who’s guilty before they arrest anyone, courts don’t really look into any cases properly and people with money or connections can get away with anything.

  33. Lock them dirty scumbags up , aa a kid ages 12-14 you knew rape was one of the worst crimes you could commit . Nevernind 17-18 , there should be no leniency or pity given to these lads , doesn’t matter if he has a fucking bike shop or a family now , or has stopped committing crimes .

    As a father of a 2yo girl this is absolutely terrifying to read knowing this happens . Trying to imagine how they got the 2nd car to show up , did they call the mate amd say like ” here bro we put a the beach raping this bird come out and have a turn ” cause I can’t fucking imagine for the life of me how that call was made 😳 .

    Honestly this is fucking sickening I hope they get banged up and butchered !!

  35. Ah yes consider their youth, imagine what they’ll be doing in 5,10,20 years if they don’t get a hefty sentence, fuckers.

  36. Ok can we just bear in mind that the court was urged *by the defendants’ counsel*

    Like this isn’t an institutional thing or anything, as shitty as it is, it’s defence counsel’s job to mitigate the time done by their client and to represent them to their fullest extent (they obviously can’t lie on their behalf)

    I personally hope the judge doesn’t give two fucks about their age, but this is just how adversarial legal systems work.

    The reverse is to not represent defendants to the fullest extent and that’s just very dangerous.

  37. Absolutely consider their youth. Make sure they’re good and old before they get out. No 5 year sentences that’d see them out in 3, still in their mid 20s.

  38. 225 convictions but sexual assault is out of character?! What the actual fuck! He’s an scumbag. They all are. Please God the jury sees some sense. Young or not, they were old enough to know better. Thinking of the poor victim, as if she hasn’t been through enough than listening to this shit

  39. They gang raped an 18 year old girl and didn’t know it was wrong!? I don’t care what they did before or after. She will be mentally wrecked for the rest of her life. They need some time to reflect on how this affects the victim, in jail.

  40. >Mr Nicholas said Ryan has matured in the last six years since the offence. Although he maintains he did not commit a crime, he is “reconsidering whether consent was given”, the court heard.

    >Ryan has 24 previous convictions including for theft and drugs, but had no previous convictions at the time of the rape.

    The solicitor saying he has matured in the last 6 years but somehow has also racked up 24 conviction in the same time.
    Castrate every one of the scumbags and then throw away the key

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