The article doesn’t mention the energy source that will be used.
Certainly they will export to Europe.
EU, but mainly Germany (the company is German-Swedish, btw), has tried to woo Kazakhstan with this project for some time, but I doubt that they would choose to build anything on this scale without the current change in the political orientation of Kazakhstan.
Originally they announced that they would make a final investment decision between 2024 and 2027.
But Putin’s war has hastened the process. Ironically, because, I believe, one of the main reasons he started that war at the first place was that he was worrying that the transition to renewable energy would push break his fossil-dependent country. It is his stupid war that allows Kazakhstan to emerge from the Russian sphere and try to liberalize itself.
German universities will cooperate with Kazakh ones to train the necessary personnel in the Mangistau region:
If Kazakhstan plays this well, they will definitely gain a lot. But their chance also depends on the continuance of a relationship between Europe and China…
Why do we put all this stuff so far away?
Like why already plan so much hydrogen production in kazakhstan? So they gonna build our important hydrogen pipelines throught turkey? Our trustworthy friend turkey?
Why make hydrogen cooperation with the saudis?
Surely being independend from the saudis isnt that bad.
My best guess is coz of solar power.
Why not build the stuff closer in the south. Algeria or something. They have sun. Dont remember if they hate the eu or not.
Ah yes let’s get dependant on an other resource from a very democratically elected gouvernement. It has worked like a charm in the past. Our politicians are pure genius, it’s amazing.
Why can’t we just invest in local / European production facilities… I don’t understand why we yet again want to be dependent on autocracies…
I feel like this “export energy to Europe” is turning into a bubble.
This is a scam. Hydrogen is a nightmare to transport because it needs cryogenic temperatures, is very reactive with most types of steel and the fucking molecules always find their way through the tiniest of fracture lines. Because of the engineering problems, Hydrogen is only practical if generation is located very near the end user.
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The article doesn’t mention the energy source that will be used.
Certainly they will export to Europe.
EU, but mainly Germany (the company is German-Swedish, btw), has tried to woo Kazakhstan with this project for some time, but I doubt that they would choose to build anything on this scale without the current change in the political orientation of Kazakhstan.
Originally they announced that they would make a final investment decision between 2024 and 2027.
[https://www.rechargenews.com/energy-transition/global-green-hydrogen-pipeline-exceeds-250gw-heres-the-27-largest-gigawatt-scale-projects/2-1-933755](https://www.rechargenews.com/energy-transition/global-green-hydrogen-pipeline-exceeds-250gw-heres-the-27-largest-gigawatt-scale-projects/2-1-933755)
But Putin’s war has hastened the process. Ironically, because, I believe, one of the main reasons he started that war at the first place was that he was worrying that the transition to renewable energy would push break his fossil-dependent country. It is his stupid war that allows Kazakhstan to emerge from the Russian sphere and try to liberalize itself.
German universities will cooperate with Kazakh ones to train the necessary personnel in the Mangistau region:
[https://www.timesca.com/index.php/news/25424-kazakhstan-will-provide-the-european-union-with-green-hydrogen](https://www.timesca.com/index.php/news/25424-kazakhstan-will-provide-the-european-union-with-green-hydrogen)
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Kazakhstan is becoming the key inland corridor linking China to Europe, and China is strongly expanding their presence in Kazakhstan too:
[https://www.euractiv.com/section/central-asia/news/kazakhstan-key-middle-corridor-linking-china-to-eu/](https://www.euractiv.com/section/central-asia/news/kazakhstan-key-middle-corridor-linking-china-to-eu/)
[https://www.eureporter.co/kazakhstan-2/2022/10/24/now-is-the-time-for-closer-eu-kazakh-relations-says-deputy-foreign-minister/](https://www.eureporter.co/kazakhstan-2/2022/10/24/now-is-the-time-for-closer-eu-kazakh-relations-says-deputy-foreign-minister/)
If Kazakhstan plays this well, they will definitely gain a lot. But their chance also depends on the continuance of a relationship between Europe and China…
Why do we put all this stuff so far away?
Like why already plan so much hydrogen production in kazakhstan? So they gonna build our important hydrogen pipelines throught turkey? Our trustworthy friend turkey?
Why make hydrogen cooperation with the saudis?
Surely being independend from the saudis isnt that bad.
My best guess is coz of solar power.
Why not build the stuff closer in the south. Algeria or something. They have sun. Dont remember if they hate the eu or not.
Ah yes let’s get dependant on an other resource from a very democratically elected gouvernement. It has worked like a charm in the past. Our politicians are pure genius, it’s amazing.
Why can’t we just invest in local / European production facilities… I don’t understand why we yet again want to be dependent on autocracies…
I feel like this “export energy to Europe” is turning into a bubble.
This is a scam. Hydrogen is a nightmare to transport because it needs cryogenic temperatures, is very reactive with most types of steel and the fucking molecules always find their way through the tiniest of fracture lines. Because of the engineering problems, Hydrogen is only practical if generation is located very near the end user.