A job and a third-level degree no longer enough to protect people from poverty – ESRI

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  1. Buried down the article is this…

    >Ireland’s in-work poverty rate is low compared with other countries – at 4.4pc of the working age population, it is half the EU average – while overall poverty and inequality rates have fallen substantially in the past decade.

  2. A lot depends on what degree. I had a job and an arts degree and was on the poverty line. Then I got an actually useful degree and I’m doing well.

  3. >Ireland’s in-work poverty rate is low compared with other countries – at 4.4pc of the working age population, it is half the EU average – while overall poverty and inequality rates have fallen substantially in the past decade.

    So we’ve remarkably low rates of working poor and there’s no explanation in the piece about how many people have third-level degrees, has that changed historically, etc.

  4. It seems more about wage stagnation. You are expected to have a BA or a Masters because everyone seems to have one nowadays. So they are less valuable. But you don’t really get paid more for having a degree. Unless you work in tech in Ireland, your really in trouble.

  5. Literally just had a chat with my manager about being underpaid… Admits I’m only at 85% of the standard pay scale (about 5k less). Follows up by telling me they can’t do anything till June.

  6. Can’t help but think this is at least in part down to the growth of third level education. So many jobs that were previously done by people without degrees now need a degree, but it’s not like they pay more or they’re any more productive than people who took these jobs as school leavers in the past.

  7. So simply… We look at the economy and what jobs pay the best and get a degree in that category. Yes, it’s true, your business degrees aren’t worth a shite. But you can easily upgrade your degree to something that’s worth a shite and a half. Stop following your passion and follow trends If you want to be a rich wanker like me. Moaning about your toilet cleaning degree from the 90s not getting you no where is going to get you no where. Or…. You could pick up a trade and you would probably double your salary compared to your degree career path.

  8. I’m in 5th year now. What’s the point of me spending all my time trying to get good grades to get good points to go to college, spending so much money, only for me to be an inch from poverty? Crazy.

  9. A degree never stopped people from being poor. Many degrees don’t equal jobs and in fact don’t focus on getting students jobs.

  10. Noble titles and large land holdings weren’t enough to keep people from poverty historically either. Life is complicated. Sometimes people fuck it up, make the wrong choices, have responsibilities holding them back, have a couple of bad rolls or anything else really.
    Some people can be helped, more often on an individual basis than through government policy changes, but some people can’t be helped either for myriad reasons.

  11. Poor people are easy to control. That´s the goal of the elites and the reason why they want people to have “salaries”. Easier than control slaves than by force.

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