His local Supervalu is going be delighted with the bump in off-licence sales in the coming weeks.
An absolutely disgraceful verdict. The WRC may end up abolishing itself with more verdicts like this. I expect this before the high court soon to be fully reversed, just like the recent case against the Plaza Group. Turn up for work shitfaced and the employer is meant to treat it like you turned up to work with cancer.. seriously
This is gross.
SuperValu … Real Booze, Real People.
Ridiculous decision.
as per the independent article, “Adjudicating officer Michael McEntee found that Mr Murphy had a “well-recognised disability” in the form of alcoholism and noted that there had been “many” alcohol incidents involving the complainant in 2019.”
Yes alcoholism is very disabling but its not the employers fault or problem and they gave him multiple chances. He was not fired because he is an alcoholic. he was fired for being steaming drunk repeatedly at work.
Wait so you get rewarded to be an alcoholic now but have to put a few hundred in the *poor box* if you’re caught with a plant?
Given that addiction is a mental illness it’s reasonable to ask employers to try to make adjustments to accommodate the illness. It’s the same as anyone trying to come back to work after a serious illness. A bouncer might not be up to coming back dealing with kicking out drunks after a heart attack but they might be ok to work as the cloakroom attendant – same principle should have applied here.
In this case after he had completed his addiction management course the supervalue owners could have tried bringing him back at a lower grade with less responsibility. That would have prevented this being a WRC issue. They chose to argue that there was no way he could have been kept on even at a different job. If he’d demonstrated an inability to do that lesser job then they’d probably be ok to sack him but the WRC is right to say that he should have been given that chance.
What a fucking joke.
To be fair. With the minimum alcohol pricing €40k won’t keep this fella in oil for two long.
South Park did it 1st
I feel very sorry for him.
Mental illness has become such a broad spectrum that personal responsibility is now non existent, open up mount joy sure they’ll all have something that made them do it
Tough gig
Gigachad
Everyone here is rightfully pointing out that alcoholism is an awful affliction which it is.
That said, this guy is a nasty piece of work.
All through 2019 he had problems with drink that the owner tolerated until a serious incident four days before Christmas. After treatment he was allowed back to work provided there would be no more incidents.
Then in October he drinks himself unconscious while on the job. He does this while the owner is at his Daughter’s wedding. So presumably when he was preparing for his speech or getting ready to walk her down the aisle he’s instead getting a call from the shop that the guy who is supposed to be running things is instead passed out.
However he still stands by him. Continuing to pay his salary for two more months while the manager is in treatment. Then after finally getting the sack the guy turns around and brings a case against him and gets €40K. The workplace commission are only doing their job. This guy should have had the decency to move on and sort himself out.
and this is where the waters of law get muddied by some shit talking solicitor.
WRC has become a fucking joke.
Crazy
How the fuck do we live in a country where you have a lad show up to work and get blackout drunk , get paid all the way through rehab, then get 40k for being sacked and at no point did anyone think “its completely reasonable that this person should not be in charge of an offo”
This sets an insane precedent.
Once everyone is unfireable as the civil service then the whole country can run as efficiently as the civil service. Brilliant plan.
Alcoholism is not a disability.
This is fascinating. My reading of this is that his an alcoholic. The company does everything they can to help him and end up taking him out of a management role because he is clearly not capable of being responsible and keep him on on minimum wage and they still get fucked by the workplace commission? Like what was the company actually supposed to do to avoid get sued? Just pay him a manager salary to get drunk and fuck up their business and other staff? The guy should have some morale compass to not sue the people who, from reading this article, in my opinion have been fairly supportive of him
Bizarre pro-litigation article, it wasn’t his disability he was sacked for, but his reckless choices involving his workplace and colleagues.
This is a touchy situation with someone who has an obvious drinking problem and Companies have to be seen as supportive and it be treated as a disability, anyway I worked with a guy who was an alcoholic and I would constantly get phoned on day off early hours of morning sometimes 6,7 to cover his shift as he’s phoned in sick and on the days he did work got sent home because of smelling of alcohol. This was going on for years until they finally got rid of him because he was sleeping on the job or drunk . Apparently his wife kicked him out and he’s homeless. I’m not sure of his situation now .m, sad auld situation tbh .
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His local Supervalu is going be delighted with the bump in off-licence sales in the coming weeks.
An absolutely disgraceful verdict. The WRC may end up abolishing itself with more verdicts like this. I expect this before the high court soon to be fully reversed, just like the recent case against the Plaza Group. Turn up for work shitfaced and the employer is meant to treat it like you turned up to work with cancer.. seriously
This is gross.
SuperValu … Real Booze, Real People.
Ridiculous decision.
as per the independent article, “Adjudicating officer Michael McEntee found that Mr Murphy had a “well-recognised disability” in the form of alcoholism and noted that there had been “many” alcohol incidents involving the complainant in 2019.”
Yes alcoholism is very disabling but its not the employers fault or problem and they gave him multiple chances. He was not fired because he is an alcoholic. he was fired for being steaming drunk repeatedly at work.
Wait so you get rewarded to be an alcoholic now but have to put a few hundred in the *poor box* if you’re caught with a plant?
Given that addiction is a mental illness it’s reasonable to ask employers to try to make adjustments to accommodate the illness. It’s the same as anyone trying to come back to work after a serious illness. A bouncer might not be up to coming back dealing with kicking out drunks after a heart attack but they might be ok to work as the cloakroom attendant – same principle should have applied here.
In this case after he had completed his addiction management course the supervalue owners could have tried bringing him back at a lower grade with less responsibility. That would have prevented this being a WRC issue. They chose to argue that there was no way he could have been kept on even at a different job. If he’d demonstrated an inability to do that lesser job then they’d probably be ok to sack him but the WRC is right to say that he should have been given that chance.
What a fucking joke.
To be fair. With the minimum alcohol pricing €40k won’t keep this fella in oil for two long.
South Park did it 1st
I feel very sorry for him.
Mental illness has become such a broad spectrum that personal responsibility is now non existent, open up mount joy sure they’ll all have something that made them do it
Tough gig
Gigachad
Everyone here is rightfully pointing out that alcoholism is an awful affliction which it is.
That said, this guy is a nasty piece of work.
All through 2019 he had problems with drink that the owner tolerated until a serious incident four days before Christmas. After treatment he was allowed back to work provided there would be no more incidents.
Then in October he drinks himself unconscious while on the job. He does this while the owner is at his Daughter’s wedding. So presumably when he was preparing for his speech or getting ready to walk her down the aisle he’s instead getting a call from the shop that the guy who is supposed to be running things is instead passed out.
However he still stands by him. Continuing to pay his salary for two more months while the manager is in treatment. Then after finally getting the sack the guy turns around and brings a case against him and gets €40K. The workplace commission are only doing their job. This guy should have had the decency to move on and sort himself out.
and this is where the waters of law get muddied by some shit talking solicitor.
WRC has become a fucking joke.
Crazy
How the fuck do we live in a country where you have a lad show up to work and get blackout drunk , get paid all the way through rehab, then get 40k for being sacked and at no point did anyone think “its completely reasonable that this person should not be in charge of an offo”
This sets an insane precedent.
Once everyone is unfireable as the civil service then the whole country can run as efficiently as the civil service. Brilliant plan.
Alcoholism is not a disability.
This is fascinating. My reading of this is that his an alcoholic. The company does everything they can to help him and end up taking him out of a management role because he is clearly not capable of being responsible and keep him on on minimum wage and they still get fucked by the workplace commission? Like what was the company actually supposed to do to avoid get sued? Just pay him a manager salary to get drunk and fuck up their business and other staff? The guy should have some morale compass to not sue the people who, from reading this article, in my opinion have been fairly supportive of him
Bizarre pro-litigation article, it wasn’t his disability he was sacked for, but his reckless choices involving his workplace and colleagues.
This is a touchy situation with someone who has an obvious drinking problem and Companies have to be seen as supportive and it be treated as a disability, anyway I worked with a guy who was an alcoholic and I would constantly get phoned on day off early hours of morning sometimes 6,7 to cover his shift as he’s phoned in sick and on the days he did work got sent home because of smelling of alcohol. This was going on for years until they finally got rid of him because he was sleeping on the job or drunk . Apparently his wife kicked him out and he’s homeless. I’m not sure of his situation now .m, sad auld situation tbh .