> Een lijvig pamflet voor de Koninklijke Vlaamse Academie van België voor Wetenschappen en Kunsten vat de opmerkingen nu systematisch samen. Zo beoogt de canon volgens de auteurs de politieke instrumentalisering van de geschiedenis.
Doubt any academic historian worth their salt is okay with co-opting research for a nationalist project like this.
Wanna bet they include The Guldensporenslag as anchorpoint? Where half of current day Flanders was fighting on the side of the French against the county of Flanders?
If only he had some influence in the N-VA, oh wait.
Flanders wouldn’t be the entity it is today without the Belgian context. If the canon goes back to the Guldensporenslag you know it’s a propaganda piece.
And then BDW is amazed that non-nationalists on the left are having a harder time relating to being ‘flemish’ due to this obscene coopting bullshit.
“Mom, can we have national identity?”
Mom/NVA/Wuyts : “We have national identity at home!”
National identity at home: an old “de leeuw van vlaanderen (1984)” VHS tape in a box in the attic somewhere.
> Hen brandmerken als leden van een ‘collaboratiecommissie’ is onvergeeflijk. Je zou denken dat historici iets zorgvuldiger omspringen met de meest zwarte bladzijde uit onze geschiedenis.
You mean careful, as in featuring nazis like Borms and De Clercq in the flemish hall of fame, and being upset when that gets pointed out?
Something tells me that calling it a collaboration commission is highly appropriate, and that the word ‘geschiedvervalsing’ wouldn’t be out of place either.
Als Frans Vlaming, dit is bullshit.
Moh, wie had da zien aankomen?
Well no shit. The thing everyone said would happen, happened?
>“Intriest dat sommige academici zo neerkijken op de Vlaamse Gemeenschap en op onze geschiedenis”, zegt Vlaams minister Weyts in een reactie. “Nog triester dat men het daarvoor nodig acht vernietigend te oordelen over collega-academici.
It’s not “some academics”, it’s pretty much every academic except the two in the commission and the ones working for the NVA. It’s like those saying that global warming is a hoax because they found 2 scientists that have some doubts about it, and a whole bunch of people employed by oil corporations also said it’s not real…
And looking down on the “flemish” history as projected by the NVA and their cronies makes sense. First of all cause it’s pretty much made up, secondly because it’s being used to encourage nationalism. And anyone with half a brain that’s been looking at the news for the last couple of years, should realize that nationalism only leads to bad things.
Weg met Vlaanderen! Onafhankelijk Hertogdom Brabant nu!
Ben Weyts only cares about power. He is a BoJo version from Alibaba
Literally a political party trying to change how the history of a group of people is viewed.
In this case: their own. All for political purposes, which are ultimately capitalist purposes.
Who’d have thunk?
Where is the Brabantian canon? Or the Limburg canon?
Driving a company BMW SUV to work on weekdays and then cycling on an expensive race bike all weekend should be canon.
terecht
Welke geschiedenis
Cant we just be Belgians beating up french people together?
Can someone explain this to me? This seems to have started after I left Belgium. Never heard of this before…
You know to be fair, nigh every nation uses their history as some sort of source for national pride and overal cultural guideline. This sub is having the uberclassic Belgian reaction of being anti-all-that (which is also a historical tendency some say), but honestly it wouldn’t be that bad to have at least *a little bit* more pride in ourselves if only so we’d actually start believing we can change things for the better. Whether that’s Flemish or Belgian canon idc
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> Een lijvig pamflet voor de Koninklijke Vlaamse Academie van België voor Wetenschappen en Kunsten vat de opmerkingen nu systematisch samen. Zo beoogt de canon volgens de auteurs de politieke instrumentalisering van de geschiedenis.
Doubt any academic historian worth their salt is okay with co-opting research for a nationalist project like this.
EDIT: Also found the pamphlet [here](https://kvab.be/nl/standpunten/een-canon-van-vlaanderen)
EDIT 2: [Comment by Minister Weyts](https://twitter.com/BenWeyts/status/1588083520395689987)
Wanna bet they include The Guldensporenslag as anchorpoint? Where half of current day Flanders was fighting on the side of the French against the county of Flanders?
I agreed with this historian’s take on this subject.
https://www.standaard.be/cnt/dss27022002_003
If only he had some influence in the N-VA, oh wait.
Flanders wouldn’t be the entity it is today without the Belgian context. If the canon goes back to the Guldensporenslag you know it’s a propaganda piece.
And then BDW is amazed that non-nationalists on the left are having a harder time relating to being ‘flemish’ due to this obscene coopting bullshit.
“Mom, can we have national identity?”
Mom/NVA/Wuyts : “We have national identity at home!”
National identity at home: an old “de leeuw van vlaanderen (1984)” VHS tape in a box in the attic somewhere.
> Hen brandmerken als leden van een ‘collaboratiecommissie’ is onvergeeflijk. Je zou denken dat historici iets zorgvuldiger omspringen met de meest zwarte bladzijde uit onze geschiedenis.
You mean careful, as in featuring nazis like Borms and De Clercq in the flemish hall of fame, and being upset when that gets pointed out?
Something tells me that calling it a collaboration commission is highly appropriate, and that the word ‘geschiedvervalsing’ wouldn’t be out of place either.
Als Frans Vlaming, dit is bullshit.
Moh, wie had da zien aankomen?
Well no shit. The thing everyone said would happen, happened?
>“Intriest dat sommige academici zo neerkijken op de Vlaamse Gemeenschap en op onze geschiedenis”, zegt Vlaams minister Weyts in een reactie. “Nog triester dat men het daarvoor nodig acht vernietigend te oordelen over collega-academici.
It’s not “some academics”, it’s pretty much every academic except the two in the commission and the ones working for the NVA. It’s like those saying that global warming is a hoax because they found 2 scientists that have some doubts about it, and a whole bunch of people employed by oil corporations also said it’s not real…
And looking down on the “flemish” history as projected by the NVA and their cronies makes sense. First of all cause it’s pretty much made up, secondly because it’s being used to encourage nationalism. And anyone with half a brain that’s been looking at the news for the last couple of years, should realize that nationalism only leads to bad things.
Weg met Vlaanderen! Onafhankelijk Hertogdom Brabant nu!
Ben Weyts only cares about power. He is a BoJo version from Alibaba
10min interview on radio 1 with Jo Tollebeek is also available via [vrtnws](https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2022/11/03/vlaamse-canon/).
Literally a political party trying to change how the history of a group of people is viewed.
In this case: their own. All for political purposes, which are ultimately capitalist purposes.
Who’d have thunk?
Where is the Brabantian canon? Or the Limburg canon?
Driving a company BMW SUV to work on weekdays and then cycling on an expensive race bike all weekend should be canon.
terecht
Welke geschiedenis
Cant we just be Belgians beating up french people together?
Can someone explain this to me? This seems to have started after I left Belgium. Never heard of this before…
You know to be fair, nigh every nation uses their history as some sort of source for national pride and overal cultural guideline. This sub is having the uberclassic Belgian reaction of being anti-all-that (which is also a historical tendency some say), but honestly it wouldn’t be that bad to have at least *a little bit* more pride in ourselves if only so we’d actually start believing we can change things for the better. Whether that’s Flemish or Belgian canon idc