The UN report on Replacement Migration – Is it relevant today?

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1. I think the issue of mass migration is that while you might bolster your population figures you aren’t doing much to preserve things culturally or traditionally and I think that’s where a lot of the bother comes from I think.

   I personally don’t believe that Europe in general can just take in millions of people from countries with cultures and traditions that are pretty incompatible with our own and expect things to go fine.

   Europe for probably the longest time had been migrating between each other and due to the fact that culturally we’re quite similar it has worked out well and even made us more prosperous. However today we’re facing much cultural conflict just due to how different we are to those we bring in.

   My prediction is that the longer mass migration continues in Europe the more likely far right leaders are to gain political power. To many Europeans in general I think the sentiment is shifting from we’re helping people to if mass migration continues we face an existential crisis to the idea of Europe in general.

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   One thing is for sure, if things continue at the current rate, things will only get far far worse.

2. We 100% need relatively large scale migration to support our ever growing older population. When we are all older we are going to want to be supported too and it’s obvious that with ever reducing birth rates we have a serious problem.

   Creating better conditions for parents is a good thing in its own right, but let’s be honest not having children is a significantly more popular option and less stigmatised option than it was in previous generations. We absolutely have the space to build houses to build out and better develop town and to drive our country forward.

   What’s the alternative? Working till we are 80 to keep the country a bit whiter (sorry more socially coherent)? What jobs are people even going to be doing deep into their 70s? Migration has always been a driver of growth and a corner stone of prosperous nations (or those that don’t have giant oil wells and small populations). Just embrace it. Working till you’re 80 with giant migrant camps outside every developed nation is a hellscape that should please nobody.

3. Braverman. a person somewhat to the right of the politics of Genghis Khan and uncomfortably close to actual Nazis in her rhetoric and stated beliefs, claims massive influxes of refugees which simply do not exist – numbers of refugees arriving have been fairly stable for a decade or so.

   What does exist is complete dysfunction in the Home Office, which causes a huge backlog of people having their asylum claims assessed (and they can’t be removed, if their claim is not genuine, until it has been assessed) as well as other immigration such as people with work permits, and even simple matters like issuing passports to British Citizens!

   This post in itself looks quite close to a dog-whistle for the “Great Replacement Theory”, a White Supramicst lie that brown people, probably Muslims, are coming to erase White culture and society. This is a vile and reprehensible racist lie intended to cause racial tension and eventually ethnic-based warfare.

   So what are you trying to say in this post, then? I certainly hope it is none of the above things.

4. It’s all by design. Why bother creating a healthy society where child rearing is affordable and valued when you can just import a load of cheap labour from the third world? Creating strong high-trust societies is not beneficial to global capital. They seek the opposite. Divide and conquer needs division.

   This is the capitalist end game and we are living through it. The nation state is the last refuge of working people and the last institution powerful enough to stand against global capital. It must be destroyed.

   Useful idiots will cheer on its destruction because the capitalist propaganda tells them it makes them a good person to do so. We are sleepwalking into a hyper-capitalist hellscape thinking it leads to a better tomorrow.

5. The thing that I don’t understand in regards to the falling birth rate argument is that countries like Japan and South Korea, which have the lowest Birth rates in the world, much lower than Europe, have thriving economies in spite of taking far less immigration

6. Absolute nonsense report. The population always balances itself, naturally, and has done so throughout history without the need to invite entire nations over to unnaturally mix and replace it.

   The UN is a contrived and duplicitous organization.

7. I don’t really buy the “need more workers to support aging population” argument. One day you see a report that automation will cause mass unemployment, next day you see a report saying we need 5 million more workers to support the elderly. Which one is it?

   Given technological enhancement, I don’t think a declining population is as bad as people think it is. If anything it’ll drive up wages and potentially help the average person.

8. If you just concentrate on population demographics, western countries birth rates need one of two things to be sustainable:

   1) Migration

   2) Significant support for prospective parents

   We do neither because thats future Britains problem, I guess.