Off topic but what’s the point of posting paywalled articles ?
I know they do it on other subs, but then someone can copy and paste the article in the comments, whereas on r/ireland that’s not allowed, so we’re left with a post that’s basically just a title.
Either allow copying and pasting it or ban paywalled articles entirely, I don’t get this middleground.
>Parental alienation is a “pseudoscience” which has been discredited internationally and it “must be stopped,” she said.
Depending on the definition of the parental alienation that may absolutely be true.
But…. As somebody who grew up in the 80’s / early 90’s as a child of an extremely messy separation, mixed custody (and eventually divorce when it became legal), I can tell you that it 100% happens.
Parents will absolutely go out of their way to deliberately manipulate their children’s opinions to suit what they want as regards custody.
This includes lying, strategic rewards, and spending significant time to manufacture then reinforce negativity towards one particular parent and experiences with them.
I would consider both my parents “good parents” who wanted the best for me. There was no physical violence, abuse, alcololism etc.. But, both of them most definitely were manipulative in their own way in trying to dictate how I felt around the other.
It was really obvious that whenever I spent any length of time with one of them, I wouldn’t want to go to the other.
To think that this doesn’t happen is naive and dangerous.
It’s definitely something that people should be aware of.
The solution to false Alienation claims is not to ban them, it’s to prove them wrong
This is utter insanity. It absolutely happens and this just emboldens women to further alienate children from fathers if they can’t use it as a simple defense. It’s flat out DARVO
How utterly archaic that we should consider a ban a particular defense because it’s deemed pseudoscientific based off of the anecdotal experiences of a solicitor.
Family courts are anti male as it is, removing a valid defense will make them even worse.
My parents split when I was little.
My ma didn’t need to do much parental alienation.
Found out my father was just a piece of shit who wanted nothing to do with his kids.
When I was a teenager I thought my mother had lied a bit about what she’d said about my dad.
I talked to my aunt who pretty much confirmed it. His own sister was just like “yeah nah he’s someone who shouldn’t have ever had kids.”
I’m very surprised that they feel that parental alienation is impossible/not real. I could completely easily turn my daughter against my husband – they butt heads a lot, just personality-wise, and I’m the default caregiver as well. I never ever would – as part of being a good parent I do my best to support their relationship*. But I absolutely could undermine it and it seems very strange that people would not believe that could happen.
* note that I would not support a relationship with an abusive father in the same way, but that’s my point: you can alienate a child from a non-abusive parent. Which itself would be abuse if you ask me!
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Off topic but what’s the point of posting paywalled articles ?
I know they do it on other subs, but then someone can copy and paste the article in the comments, whereas on r/ireland that’s not allowed, so we’re left with a post that’s basically just a title.
Either allow copying and pasting it or ban paywalled articles entirely, I don’t get this middleground.
>Parental alienation is a “pseudoscience” which has been discredited internationally and it “must be stopped,” she said.
Depending on the definition of the parental alienation that may absolutely be true.
But…. As somebody who grew up in the 80’s / early 90’s as a child of an extremely messy separation, mixed custody (and eventually divorce when it became legal), I can tell you that it 100% happens.
Parents will absolutely go out of their way to deliberately manipulate their children’s opinions to suit what they want as regards custody.
This includes lying, strategic rewards, and spending significant time to manufacture then reinforce negativity towards one particular parent and experiences with them.
I would consider both my parents “good parents” who wanted the best for me. There was no physical violence, abuse, alcololism etc.. But, both of them most definitely were manipulative in their own way in trying to dictate how I felt around the other.
It was really obvious that whenever I spent any length of time with one of them, I wouldn’t want to go to the other.
To think that this doesn’t happen is naive and dangerous.
It’s definitely something that people should be aware of.
The solution to false Alienation claims is not to ban them, it’s to prove them wrong
This is utter insanity. It absolutely happens and this just emboldens women to further alienate children from fathers if they can’t use it as a simple defense. It’s flat out DARVO
How utterly archaic that we should consider a ban a particular defense because it’s deemed pseudoscientific based off of the anecdotal experiences of a solicitor.
Family courts are anti male as it is, removing a valid defense will make them even worse.
My parents split when I was little.
My ma didn’t need to do much parental alienation.
Found out my father was just a piece of shit who wanted nothing to do with his kids.
When I was a teenager I thought my mother had lied a bit about what she’d said about my dad.
I talked to my aunt who pretty much confirmed it. His own sister was just like “yeah nah he’s someone who shouldn’t have ever had kids.”
I’m very surprised that they feel that parental alienation is impossible/not real. I could completely easily turn my daughter against my husband – they butt heads a lot, just personality-wise, and I’m the default caregiver as well. I never ever would – as part of being a good parent I do my best to support their relationship*. But I absolutely could undermine it and it seems very strange that people would not believe that could happen.
* note that I would not support a relationship with an abusive father in the same way, but that’s my point: you can alienate a child from a non-abusive parent. Which itself would be abuse if you ask me!