Well, come and do your job then. It’s illegal to sit in a carriageway.
Well maybe if the police were doing their job then people wouldn’t feel the need to do it themselves!
if only police could urge politicians to take climate catastrophe seriously and like, just stop oil or something crazy! how can those in the know get the attention of the politicians i wonder …? what power does a human being really have beyond their own body?
If they’re going to arrest the protesters, they need to be arresting those who assault them.
I find it amazing how people valorise the protests of Nelson Mandela, Ghandi or Dr Martin Luther King Jr… then condemn the same tactics being used elsewhere and loudly declare that protest is only legitimate when it follows the law.
Maybe these people belong to Just Fuck Off Out Of The Road and are exercising their right to protest….
Anyone else think that the reason why the newspapers criticise Just Stop Oil so much is propaganda pushed by the oil companies
Quite funny how you have to sort by controversial to find the people who aren’t happy about bell ends blocking traffic. Is it cause reddit promotes far left ideology or are the people of the UK generally ok with knob ends making them late for work?
Some time ago i was driving my mom to radiation therapy and near the hospital a few of them blocked the road right infront of us
Tried talking to them but they didnt want to move.
Grabbed one of the lads and moved him away so we could pass and make it on time
This didnt happen in the UK tho
Someone committing a crime does not make it acceptable or justifiable to commit crimes upon them.
I don’t necessarily agree with the tactics of the protesters, but the people dragging them around in that video also seem like cunts.
“You are violent: it’s a very passive aggressive protest”
Learn the definitions of words, please. Violent: “using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something”
Well maybe If the police did their job people wouldn’t have to do it themselves.
Well maybe if they did their job, other people wouldn’t have to do it for them
unless you are carrying an industrial quantity of fairy liquid don’t intervene.
I wonder if we’ll look at environmental protesters in the future the same way we look at the suffragettes or Nelson Mandela. Children in school learning about them and asking why people were so against them while looking out the window at the smoke from a wildfire caused by record temperatures in the 4th consecutive year of drought, going home and seeing stories about the Royal Navy firing at flotillas of climate refugees and aid efforts in the Netherlands following a major sea wall breach due to rising sea levels
(maybe a bit extreme but still, it’s a possibility)
One of the drivers phrased it best:
“You are stopping the wrong people, I’ve got to go pick my kids up, I’ve got to get my lorry back to work. We can’t help you, go to Westminster.”
I want to see a change away from oil/gas and towards net zero but this is completely the wrong way to go about it. Reading the supporting posts everything comes back to “but our cause is the right one”. This doesn’t mean anything done in the name of that cause is helpful. Making life worse for people who aren’t able to directly make a change won’t help the cause and it won’t drive people to start supporting you no matter how just the cause is. Marcus Rashford didn’t block the roads to get the government to u turn on free school meals, Nigel Farage didn’t block the roads to press for Brexit, women’s rights campaigners didn’t block the roads to get more recognition for FGM, upskirting and other issue women face. There are plenty of campaigns that have gotten what its supporters wanted (or close to it). How? Through the avenues already open to all campaigns that have come before, paying attention to what works and what doesn’t work and changing accordingly.
Climate change is frequently in the news. It was during the fires in Europe, floods in Germany, drought in the UK, fires in LA and plenty of other climate disasters around the world. There is a massive base for change to happen on an issue most people are aware of which features frequently in the news. To harness it you don’t get in the way of people whose support you need. If any actions like this are to be done then it needs to be limited to the decision makers and only the decision makers.
This seems to be the stand out trait for many Just Stop Oil/Extinction Rebellion supporters. Every time they receive a criticism, it isn’t recognised or acted on. It’s batted away with “we have no choice but to save the planet”. Side stepping the problem and hiding in the justification for doing something. A counter productive action doesn’t become productive just because the cause is just. It just makes things worse.
ITT: Dave is angry because he couldnt get to Greggs on time.
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Meanwhile the Elites just sit back and laugh at them
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Well, come and do your job then. It’s illegal to sit in a carriageway.
Well maybe if the police were doing their job then people wouldn’t feel the need to do it themselves!
if only police could urge politicians to take climate catastrophe seriously and like, just stop oil or something crazy! how can those in the know get the attention of the politicians i wonder …? what power does a human being really have beyond their own body?
If they’re going to arrest the protesters, they need to be arresting those who assault them.
I find it amazing how people valorise the protests of Nelson Mandela, Ghandi or Dr Martin Luther King Jr… then condemn the same tactics being used elsewhere and loudly declare that protest is only legitimate when it follows the law.
Maybe these people belong to Just Fuck Off Out Of The Road and are exercising their right to protest….
Anyone else think that the reason why the newspapers criticise Just Stop Oil so much is propaganda pushed by the oil companies
Quite funny how you have to sort by controversial to find the people who aren’t happy about bell ends blocking traffic. Is it cause reddit promotes far left ideology or are the people of the UK generally ok with knob ends making them late for work?
Some time ago i was driving my mom to radiation therapy and near the hospital a few of them blocked the road right infront of us
Tried talking to them but they didnt want to move.
Grabbed one of the lads and moved him away so we could pass and make it on time
This didnt happen in the UK tho
Someone committing a crime does not make it acceptable or justifiable to commit crimes upon them.
I don’t necessarily agree with the tactics of the protesters, but the people dragging them around in that video also seem like cunts.
“You are violent: it’s a very passive aggressive protest”
Learn the definitions of words, please. Violent: “using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something”
Well maybe If the police did their job people wouldn’t have to do it themselves.
Well maybe if they did their job, other people wouldn’t have to do it for them
unless you are carrying an industrial quantity of fairy liquid don’t intervene.
I wonder if we’ll look at environmental protesters in the future the same way we look at the suffragettes or Nelson Mandela. Children in school learning about them and asking why people were so against them while looking out the window at the smoke from a wildfire caused by record temperatures in the 4th consecutive year of drought, going home and seeing stories about the Royal Navy firing at flotillas of climate refugees and aid efforts in the Netherlands following a major sea wall breach due to rising sea levels
(maybe a bit extreme but still, it’s a possibility)
One of the drivers phrased it best:
“You are stopping the wrong people, I’ve got to go pick my kids up, I’ve got to get my lorry back to work. We can’t help you, go to Westminster.”
I want to see a change away from oil/gas and towards net zero but this is completely the wrong way to go about it. Reading the supporting posts everything comes back to “but our cause is the right one”. This doesn’t mean anything done in the name of that cause is helpful. Making life worse for people who aren’t able to directly make a change won’t help the cause and it won’t drive people to start supporting you no matter how just the cause is. Marcus Rashford didn’t block the roads to get the government to u turn on free school meals, Nigel Farage didn’t block the roads to press for Brexit, women’s rights campaigners didn’t block the roads to get more recognition for FGM, upskirting and other issue women face. There are plenty of campaigns that have gotten what its supporters wanted (or close to it). How? Through the avenues already open to all campaigns that have come before, paying attention to what works and what doesn’t work and changing accordingly.
Climate change is frequently in the news. It was during the fires in Europe, floods in Germany, drought in the UK, fires in LA and plenty of other climate disasters around the world. There is a massive base for change to happen on an issue most people are aware of which features frequently in the news. To harness it you don’t get in the way of people whose support you need. If any actions like this are to be done then it needs to be limited to the decision makers and only the decision makers.
This seems to be the stand out trait for many Just Stop Oil/Extinction Rebellion supporters. Every time they receive a criticism, it isn’t recognised or acted on. It’s batted away with “we have no choice but to save the planet”. Side stepping the problem and hiding in the justification for doing something. A counter productive action doesn’t become productive just because the cause is just. It just makes things worse.
ITT: Dave is angry because he couldnt get to Greggs on time.
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Meanwhile the Elites just sit back and laugh at them