voters in England have already established their abject stupidity beyond any reasonable doubt, so this comes as no surprise
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Very early days yet. Let’s see what happens in the next few weeks/months.
Probably because he gave away free money. Let’s see what they think once he starts taking it away.
I’m sure the Tories are going to fuck something else up very shortly. People in this country appear to have a very short-term memory with regards to Tory screw ups, dodgy behaviour and stupid tax plans etc etc.
*”Only the Tories can save us from the economic disaster that is the Tories”*
My God people are idiots.
The people forget that the Tories have been in power for over 12 years. The state we are in is partly due to them.
This is another spin piece. People will remember as they will be reminded every month they pay extra on their mortgages.
For those who didn’t click the article (and since the article itself didn’t fully link it), the actual poll results:
Plus, as Starmer says (in the article):
> Starmer told the shadow cabinet that Sunak was likely to enjoy a “double bounce: the usual new PM bounce — plus the one Liz Truss managed to bungle”. He added: “That’s why we’ve said all along: no complacency, no caution, no letting up.”
We have a brand new Prime Minister that is following one who was vastly unpopular; still early days to see if Sunak actually swings the polls back in his party’s favour. Even Truss had initially managed to bring the Labour lead down a few points when she first took office before her big screw-up.
Get ready for the voting intention polls to also close up over the next few months. They might even be in the lead before the spring. It’s Conservative hegemony now and I don’t see how it will change; too many people just seem to fall in line behind them.
Relax – tax rises and social services cuts have not YET impacted Joe Bloggs…
But wasn’t he the chancellor that contributed to a lot of this mess for a couple of years?
People forget that?
“Voters suddenly remembered that photo of Ed Miliband with the bacon sandwich and realised Sunak must be better than the alternative”.
Normality has resumed I guess.
Whoever took over from Liz Truss was going to enjoy an enormous “not being Liz Truss” bounce. The fact that it’s someone who, relatively speaking, has a reputation for sound judgment just makes that more so.
Give it three months and ask again.
Isn’t it more the case of *some* Conservative voters stop pretending they weren’t going to eventually vote Conservative and admit to pollsters they are going to vote conservative at the next election now that it’s less embarrassing or they don’t want to send a message because there is a change in leadership….. but still not enough voters to necessarily win that election if it happened right now.
We’re possibly going to do it in the states too: historically conservatives always crash the car here, liberals are elected to fix the mess, and then as soon as it’s going a bit better our nitwit electorate puts the other guys back in charge again.
My faith in humanity can’t take another round of suicidal stupidity of this magnitude. I still can’t believe that there are still so many gullible people in the country.
Was always going to be the case. I know Reddit is a bit one sided for us and we can’t work it out. But I know loads of Tories (were once labour) and they simply hate labour and do not trust them at all. This isn’t surprising to me.
Thank God the Tories are in power to save us from the economic disaster caused by 12 years of Tory Government.
The desperate Tories in the comments are just ignoring the farce of Liz Truss we have just been through. You guys helped elect her and put her in charge. Now everyone is just pretending she doesn’t count. YOU DID THIS TO US
Jesus fucking christ.. Alright, I’m moving to Scotland, people here are idiots.
Turkeys will always vote for christmas if they’re convinced that only other turkeys will be eaten.
It’s absurd.
If this guy was a builder and he’d just demolished your house working on the extension you probably wouldn’t want him working on the rebuild effort. Especially if this builder then turns round and says you can’t trust the other companies to do a good job.
But clearly politics is a very different world.
Who was involved in this poll? I don’t know anyone who was asked
29% to 33% – so within margin of error for a NatRep poll.
How does Opinium’s results track with other polls?
Also overall, are Opinium an outlier most of the time, or are they with the pack?
Amazing really, they have been in power for 12 years so are largely responsible, but are seen as the ones to fix it, that’s so weird
This country absolutely loves getting fucked in the arse.
In other words, voters continue to be dumb as fuck.
#*sigh* 😮💨
I’m just waiting for reunification at this point. I don’t want to be on this sinking ship lol
England letting go of control challenge! (IMPOSSIBLE!)
The only way this news title could be in anyway accurate is that f we had a fucking general election already. If Sunak won without using the same dirty, lying tactics of BoJo then yeah, the article would be correct. Other wise it’s bollocks
The mind boggles. All the Tories have done is slash public services and somehow still increased our national debt to insane levels. Why anyone would think they’d be good at sorting out the economy is a mystery. They forget the last budget surplus was under a Labour government.
Anyone who votes torie after the literal cluster fuck they’ve put the country and everyone who isn’t super rich in, are incompetent fools
How the fuck do people keep falling for them?
They get elected, fuck up the country and economy, then next election they act like nothing happened and vote them in again just for it to repeat
If the Tories get voted in again in the next general election, it would show how the UK are the dumbest country on the planet. Imagine voting in the same people who have completely fucked the country for 12+ years
Imagine if the KKK just changed their leader every few years and people assumed the KKK were no longer racist, selfish and complete wastes of space with 0 regards for anyone but themselves.
Now replace “KKK” with “Tories” and see how stupid you are.
Hint: If you think its not a good analogy, you’re stupid.
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voters in England have already established their abject stupidity beyond any reasonable doubt, so this comes as no surprise
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Very early days yet. Let’s see what happens in the next few weeks/months.
Probably because he gave away free money. Let’s see what they think once he starts taking it away.
I’m sure the Tories are going to fuck something else up very shortly. People in this country appear to have a very short-term memory with regards to Tory screw ups, dodgy behaviour and stupid tax plans etc etc.
*”Only the Tories can save us from the economic disaster that is the Tories”*
My God people are idiots.
The people forget that the Tories have been in power for over 12 years. The state we are in is partly due to them.
This is another spin piece. People will remember as they will be reminded every month they pay extra on their mortgages.
For those who didn’t click the article (and since the article itself didn’t fully link it), the actual poll results:
CON — 28% (+5)
LAB — 44% (-6)
LDM — 10% (+1)
GRN — 5% (-1)
[source](https://twitter.com/OpiniumResearch/status/1586438027198418944)
Labour still leads by 16 points, which would [result in a Labour majority of 102 seats](https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/usercode.py?scotcontrol=Y&CON=28&LAB=44&LIB=10&Reform=&Green=5&UKIP=&TVCON=&TVLAB=&TVLIB=&TVReform=&TVGreen=&TVUKIP=&SCOTCON=14.2&SCOTLAB=30.5&SCOTLIB=6.5&SCOTReform=0&SCOTGreen=0.8&SCOTUKIP=&SCOTNAT=45&display=AllChanged®orseat=%28none%29&boundary=2019base), which is probably a more realistic outcome than all the recent string of 30%+ leads.
Even then, the Opinium poll shows the lowest of Labour leads out of the others taken around the same time, [whereas all of the others have a Labour lead in the mid/high-20s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election). And for what it’s worth, it seems that Opinium tends to report the lowest Labour leads of the lot — whether that’s them being more accurate to the general population or some other reason, I don’t know, nor should any other conclusion be jumped to.
Plus, as Starmer says (in the article):
> Starmer told the shadow cabinet that Sunak was likely to enjoy a “double bounce: the usual new PM bounce — plus the one Liz Truss managed to bungle”. He added: “That’s why we’ve said all along: no complacency, no caution, no letting up.”
We have a brand new Prime Minister that is following one who was vastly unpopular; still early days to see if Sunak actually swings the polls back in his party’s favour. Even Truss had initially managed to bring the Labour lead down a few points when she first took office before her big screw-up.
Get ready for the voting intention polls to also close up over the next few months. They might even be in the lead before the spring. It’s Conservative hegemony now and I don’t see how it will change; too many people just seem to fall in line behind them.
Relax – tax rises and social services cuts have not YET impacted Joe Bloggs…
But wasn’t he the chancellor that contributed to a lot of this mess for a couple of years?
People forget that?
“Voters suddenly remembered that photo of Ed Miliband with the bacon sandwich and realised Sunak must be better than the alternative”.
Normality has resumed I guess.
Whoever took over from Liz Truss was going to enjoy an enormous “not being Liz Truss” bounce. The fact that it’s someone who, relatively speaking, has a reputation for sound judgment just makes that more so.
Give it three months and ask again.
Isn’t it more the case of *some* Conservative voters stop pretending they weren’t going to eventually vote Conservative and admit to pollsters they are going to vote conservative at the next election now that it’s less embarrassing or they don’t want to send a message because there is a change in leadership….. but still not enough voters to necessarily win that election if it happened right now.
We’re possibly going to do it in the states too: historically conservatives always crash the car here, liberals are elected to fix the mess, and then as soon as it’s going a bit better our nitwit electorate puts the other guys back in charge again.
My faith in humanity can’t take another round of suicidal stupidity of this magnitude. I still can’t believe that there are still so many gullible people in the country.
Was always going to be the case. I know Reddit is a bit one sided for us and we can’t work it out. But I know loads of Tories (were once labour) and they simply hate labour and do not trust them at all. This isn’t surprising to me.
Thank God the Tories are in power to save us from the economic disaster caused by 12 years of Tory Government.
The desperate Tories in the comments are just ignoring the farce of Liz Truss we have just been through. You guys helped elect her and put her in charge. Now everyone is just pretending she doesn’t count. YOU DID THIS TO US
Jesus fucking christ.. Alright, I’m moving to Scotland, people here are idiots.
Turkeys will always vote for christmas if they’re convinced that only other turkeys will be eaten.
It’s absurd.
If this guy was a builder and he’d just demolished your house working on the extension you probably wouldn’t want him working on the rebuild effort. Especially if this builder then turns round and says you can’t trust the other companies to do a good job.
But clearly politics is a very different world.
Who was involved in this poll? I don’t know anyone who was asked
29% to 33% – so within margin of error for a NatRep poll.
How does Opinium’s results track with other polls?
Also overall, are Opinium an outlier most of the time, or are they with the pack?
Amazing really, they have been in power for 12 years so are largely responsible, but are seen as the ones to fix it, that’s so weird
This country absolutely loves getting fucked in the arse.
In other words, voters continue to be dumb as fuck.
#*sigh* 😮💨
I’m just waiting for reunification at this point. I don’t want to be on this sinking ship lol
England letting go of control challenge! (IMPOSSIBLE!)
The only way this news title could be in anyway accurate is that f we had a fucking general election already. If Sunak won without using the same dirty, lying tactics of BoJo then yeah, the article would be correct. Other wise it’s bollocks
The mind boggles. All the Tories have done is slash public services and somehow still increased our national debt to insane levels. Why anyone would think they’d be good at sorting out the economy is a mystery. They forget the last budget surplus was under a Labour government.
Anyone who votes torie after the literal cluster fuck they’ve put the country and everyone who isn’t super rich in, are incompetent fools
How the fuck do people keep falling for them?
They get elected, fuck up the country and economy, then next election they act like nothing happened and vote them in again just for it to repeat
If the Tories get voted in again in the next general election, it would show how the UK are the dumbest country on the planet. Imagine voting in the same people who have completely fucked the country for 12+ years
Imagine if the KKK just changed their leader every few years and people assumed the KKK were no longer racist, selfish and complete wastes of space with 0 regards for anyone but themselves.
Now replace “KKK” with “Tories” and see how stupid you are.
Hint: If you think its not a good analogy, you’re stupid.