‘Poppy fascism’ – Irish people being ‘vilified’ for refusing to wear symbol

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  1. It’s genuinely embarrassing that some Irish people would consider wearing a symbol the commemorates our very oppressors, especially considering that we are not too far off the Croke Park Massacre anniversary.

    Utterly reprehensible and immoral behaviour.

  2. Literally 99% of people in Britain couldn’t give a shit, was over there for the last couple of weeks and I didn’t see one person actually wearing a poppy outside of tv or officialdom. A few knobheads on twitter do not represent a nation.

  3. Let anyone wear whatever fuck they want. What business is to anyone else if someone wants or does not want to wear a bloody poppy, wherever they may be. If you don’t like, don’t wear one.

  4. Speak to an English person, almost none of them care. They know so little of their own history you could tell them England own the South Sandwich Islands due to defeating the native Slicedpan people in the battle of Batch Loaf and they would have to look it up. This poppy story is just some shite journalists wheel out every year for rage clicks.

  5. This is only a thing since the invasion of Iraq – to distract from their illegal war they turned the patriotism card to 11. BBC placed a 24/7 camera to cover each cycle of all the dead bodies of their economic conscripts coming home and everyone was suddenly forced to wear poppies in the media. Before the invasion of Iraq, Remembrance Sunday was never this big, despite all the other wars since the end of WW1. People wear them to show their support, yes, but I think more so to avoid any perception of not caring for all the dead because that’s the narrative that has been forced. If you don’t wear one, you don’t give a fuck about the grieving families and probably support the Islamic terrorism. It was never an issue pre-2001. (Except for northern Unionists because they’re stains)

    It also has absolutely fuck all to do with WW1 and if the Brits cared for their soldiers they wouldn’t all be facing unemployment and homelessness as veterans, as is the case currently.

  6. >One Newstalk Breakfast this morning, both Shane and Ciara

    There you go, stop reading. It’s just Newstalk shit stirring again.

  7. Mm poppy Fascism/rememberwanking season is upon us. Where we have to “support are troopz”. I say that as an English born scot living in Glasgow. The, uh pageantry, on show is ridiculous 😑 there are bars with tanks and shit outside, and there’s an “armed forces day”planned at the stadium of a certain football club.

    You don’t need a little red poppy to “remember the fallen”. Nor to recognise sacrifice. I’ve friends and family who served, died and came back “not the same” from a variety of conflicts in various countries. Some still living, some long gone. I “remember” in my own way.

    Not getting into politics of armed conflict etc, I just loathe the way the poppy and “remembrance” has been corrupted.

    PS – the white poppy is much better, the veterans came out with that in 1933 as a hope for peace, and an end to war.

  8. >This includes British forces who died fighting imperialist wars all over the world – including in Ireland.

    Come on, is this a joke?

    In canada we wear poppies to remember the fallen Canadians and in america they wear poppies to remember the fallen Americans, this isn’t about veterans who ‘died fighting imperialist wars’, this is about veterans who have died protecting our countries and the rights we have today.

  9. This was 100 percent not a thing this year but I suppose hate clicks are the only thing keeping the media going so whatever

  10. I had a few customers come into work wearing them, they were Brits, and a few colleagues mentioned that was “Very brave” to be wearing them here…

    I’m British myself, so I don’t know much about why the poppy was considered risque by my colleagues and didn’t want to push the issue. That said, I do hate how the poppy/remembrance is seen by most people as remembering manly men doing brave awesome things for our “freedom”. Drowning in your own dissolved lungs in a trench in some muddy godforsaken part of Europe far from home during WW1 wasn’t brave, it was only sad. I think we should remember WW1 from a view of “never again” and building fraternity with our European cousins, not “Look how brave we were, standing up to Gerry” like it unfortunately is usually framed as.

  11. I argued with managers over this while living in the UK.

    It usually went like “Why aren’t you wearing a Poppy? Everyone else is.”

    “Yeah, and that’s because they’re not IRISH.”

  12. By WHO? Pretty sure if someone (likely a gobshite minority) is vilifying you, you can just ignore them or tell them to fck off.

  13. I’m Irish and live in the UK.

    I wear one, mostly so I have a chance to educate people about the fact that 35000 Irishmen died in that shithole of a war.

  14. Bizarre if they expect everyone to wear it. I have no issue remembering the Irish war dead of WWI and WWII and of course members of Óglaigh na hÉireann.

    I would however never wear a poppy because of the British army atrocities.

    Do we have our own version?

  15. As a Brit either wear one or don’t, I have no clue why we go through this every year. I imagine it’s enflamed by the muppets in the media who need the next story to be outraged about.

  16. The ones kicking up stink are the ones who couldn’t be bothered to look into why we don’t wear it. I wouldn’t even acknowledge them.

  17. In my opinion I think wearing the poppy while living in Ireland as an irish person is a bit much but if I was living in Britain I feel I’d probably wear it to be respectful to those around me / my new home.

    I think its ridiculous some people are getting hassled for not wearing it tho like ffs people can wear what they want but from reading through the comments here I get the feeling most British people don’t care either way.

    But I also dont get people’s disgust at the idea of wearing it if they live in Britain. I mean it just seems like it would be nice thing to do if you’re living in a different country to respect their traditions and partake in their customs you know.

  18. I’ve been almost a decade living in the UK. I’ve never worn one. It’s really not a big deal apart from laughing at the ever increasing amount of poppywank every November.

  19. It’s an aggressive army in another country. Why don’t we put on something to symbolise the fallen Russian soldiers while we’re at it.

  20. Brit here and it’s stories such as this thats given the poppy a bad name. I do wear one in Ireland I’ve had no issue in wearing it and can guarantee you that we don’t give a shit that the Irish and even ourselves not wear it.

  21. I was in London for most of the past week and hardly saw anybody wearing a poppy, normally you see street sellers and in supermarkets but their do don’t appear to be that many selling this year.

    I have a brother live in London and he has never had the “poppy” conversation so I think it just a few noisy gobshites that stir it but most brits don’t give it a thought.

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