No THC for epileptic kids, no relief for depression. But welfare bail outs for the banks and corporate sector is always available.
This isn’t just a uk thing, reaserch into psychedelic drugs is basically being suppressed worldwide which is a shame because they have a real potential to be more effective than therapy for depression and ptsd.
Same for cannabis. They might not be wonder drugs but it is worth researching them to see if they have therapeutic benefits for some. No one is encouraging rampant drug use and prescriptions will not be handed out like sweets, so it is not like everyone will be using them after work. Realistically, mental health issues cost the country a lot, both in productivity and in treatment costs, if we can find something that alleviates that well then we would be idiots to not try and roll it out.
“What’s gonna happen to the arms industry when we realize we’re all One?…You can see why the government’s cracking down.”
Why are they trying to do research on people in the UK? There’s a reason big pharma likes to do that kind of thing in africa.
Everything progressive is being held back by UK rules and attitudes. At least they can’t blame it on the EU rules and attitudes anymore.
What they need to do is legalise all drugs firstly. Eliminate the gangs by removing their business model. While they are squabbling amongst themselves, the gov can tax and regulate these newly graded medicines.
Set up new institutions where otherwise troublesome undesirables can willingly go and get their fix handed to them by free prescription. In these institutions, you would have pharmacists, psychologists, neurologists and a new avenue of opportunities. Add in security guards and wardens, etc. Treat these places as ‘like prisons but without the stigma of convicts’, where people can contribute to study.
People who wanna murder each other and not be socially productive to the needs of others and just booze up/get high, can go to these institutions and do what they please in exchange of being willing subjects of medicine and psychology. I hardly think crackhead Joe is gonna care people are studying him if he is free to get off his face, is he?
In addition to this, removal of those people from society into secure self-referral institutions will remove the crime those offenders would otherwise commit, from society. People rob and burgle for access to money to get drugs. Assaults and the like as well, all eradicated. Court orders could subject serious career-offenders to a spell inside one of these places. Keep prisons exclusively for the most disturbed minds.
This would quickly pay for itself in the mid term. You also need to send AA into this. People wont like this idea, but alcohol is highly destructive to self and others. If you wanna live your waking hours pissed, cool. You need to live in one of these new facility institutions though, unless you can prove you are not a risk to society.
I don’t understand why all these vain NIMBYs are so “aNtI-cHaNgE!!!1”. My this, my that. Bitch, none of this reality around you is yours. It’s all of ours or no-one’s. I am starting to think it doesn’t belong to anyone. For starters, nobody knows what to do, so why stand in the way of potential chances for change?
I have other ideas too.
In my opinion it’s not “attitude” but corruption. Always the same faces and nothing is being done.
I have a friend who has got prescribed medical cannabis for chronic pain and she no longer takes any other medication (and she had prescribed pretty much anything possible to prescribe and nothing worked as well as medical cannabis). She has to pay over £500 a month for private prescription. It’s not possible to get on the NHS. Guess why…
Same people who said they don’t want to risk another thalidomide situation (but private prescriptions are fine…), waved through vaccines that had little trials done. You may say this is different, but I say vaccines are as important as medical cannabis and yet they get different treatment depending on how much money big pharma can make on it. Utter hypocrisy.
Dude, that is like, totally bogus!
Alls the scientist dudes and dudettes wanna do is like, smell sounds and hear colours, maaan. Stop harshing their buzz, government dudes. Totally un-rad…!
It’s like everyone forgets that one of the most effective pain meds is essentially heroin…
I would love to be able to legally possess and consume mushrooms one day
Get the regulations changed asap then. People are dying in their thousands from suicide. If these drugs are effective we need to research them and get them to market so to speak.
Was on antidepressants for three years with no change other than weight loss and lack of sexual want, the only thing that stopped my anhedonia and suicidal ideation was lsd.
That’s fairly obvious. We are a generation behind when it comes to ‘adults in important positions’ making decisions about psychedelics.
The US had the hippy movement and while we sort of did, not to the same level.
My conspiracy brain tells me this is down to the drug companies. How will they hook people on lifetime prescriptions when one dose of shrooms will fix the persons problem over night?
Vote for me. I’d make an international psylocibin day. Pandora’s box would go into undo mode, overnight. I can’t believe alcohol is legal, whilst psylocibin managed to become class A. The personal & social damage caused by alcohol is incredible; it’s more harmful than heroin. Whereas: psylocibin isn’t toxic, & I’ve never seen a bar brawl involving anyone after indulging. One day, we’ll leave the dark ages behind, perhaps.
I’m old enough to remember when the Blair Government hired Dr. David Nutt to research and potentially reclassify controlled substances in Britain.
After months of strenuous research, Nutt concluded that even most controlled substances classified as A in Britain were ‘far less dangerous than horse riding’.
So the Blair Government fired him and hired someone else who gave them the answer they wanted to hear which was ‘Yep, all drugs are bad. We recommend harsher sentences’.
The rules I’m not qualified to comment on though I completely what trust medical professionals/scientists say.
But the attitudes part is classic Britain…. Not exclusive to Britain but a very British thing to have the taboo towards medication and especially in treating stuff like depression…. Our parents generation and further back have been so gaslit and consequently gaslight their descendants generation about issues like depression and how it’s somehow evidence that someone is objectively weaker and that something has gone objectively wrong in their development.
Our establishment in Britain and vast numbers of the older generations are still dangerously backward when it comes to the literal health of their children….
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No THC for epileptic kids, no relief for depression. But welfare bail outs for the banks and corporate sector is always available.
This isn’t just a uk thing, reaserch into psychedelic drugs is basically being suppressed worldwide which is a shame because they have a real potential to be more effective than therapy for depression and ptsd.
Same for cannabis. They might not be wonder drugs but it is worth researching them to see if they have therapeutic benefits for some. No one is encouraging rampant drug use and prescriptions will not be handed out like sweets, so it is not like everyone will be using them after work. Realistically, mental health issues cost the country a lot, both in productivity and in treatment costs, if we can find something that alleviates that well then we would be idiots to not try and roll it out.
“What’s gonna happen to the arms industry when we realize we’re all One?…You can see why the government’s cracking down.”
Why are they trying to do research on people in the UK? There’s a reason big pharma likes to do that kind of thing in africa.
Everything progressive is being held back by UK rules and attitudes. At least they can’t blame it on the EU rules and attitudes anymore.
What they need to do is legalise all drugs firstly. Eliminate the gangs by removing their business model. While they are squabbling amongst themselves, the gov can tax and regulate these newly graded medicines.
Set up new institutions where otherwise troublesome undesirables can willingly go and get their fix handed to them by free prescription. In these institutions, you would have pharmacists, psychologists, neurologists and a new avenue of opportunities. Add in security guards and wardens, etc. Treat these places as ‘like prisons but without the stigma of convicts’, where people can contribute to study.
People who wanna murder each other and not be socially productive to the needs of others and just booze up/get high, can go to these institutions and do what they please in exchange of being willing subjects of medicine and psychology. I hardly think crackhead Joe is gonna care people are studying him if he is free to get off his face, is he?
In addition to this, removal of those people from society into secure self-referral institutions will remove the crime those offenders would otherwise commit, from society. People rob and burgle for access to money to get drugs. Assaults and the like as well, all eradicated. Court orders could subject serious career-offenders to a spell inside one of these places. Keep prisons exclusively for the most disturbed minds.
This would quickly pay for itself in the mid term. You also need to send AA into this. People wont like this idea, but alcohol is highly destructive to self and others. If you wanna live your waking hours pissed, cool. You need to live in one of these new facility institutions though, unless you can prove you are not a risk to society.
I don’t understand why all these vain NIMBYs are so “aNtI-cHaNgE!!!1”. My this, my that. Bitch, none of this reality around you is yours. It’s all of ours or no-one’s. I am starting to think it doesn’t belong to anyone. For starters, nobody knows what to do, so why stand in the way of potential chances for change?
I have other ideas too.
In my opinion it’s not “attitude” but corruption. Always the same faces and nothing is being done.
I have a friend who has got prescribed medical cannabis for chronic pain and she no longer takes any other medication (and she had prescribed pretty much anything possible to prescribe and nothing worked as well as medical cannabis). She has to pay over £500 a month for private prescription. It’s not possible to get on the NHS. Guess why…
Same people who said they don’t want to risk another thalidomide situation (but private prescriptions are fine…), waved through vaccines that had little trials done. You may say this is different, but I say vaccines are as important as medical cannabis and yet they get different treatment depending on how much money big pharma can make on it. Utter hypocrisy.
Dude, that is like, totally bogus!
Alls the scientist dudes and dudettes wanna do is like, smell sounds and hear colours, maaan. Stop harshing their buzz, government dudes. Totally un-rad…!
It’s like everyone forgets that one of the most effective pain meds is essentially heroin…
I would love to be able to legally possess and consume mushrooms one day
Get the regulations changed asap then. People are dying in their thousands from suicide. If these drugs are effective we need to research them and get them to market so to speak.
Was on antidepressants for three years with no change other than weight loss and lack of sexual want, the only thing that stopped my anhedonia and suicidal ideation was lsd.
That’s fairly obvious. We are a generation behind when it comes to ‘adults in important positions’ making decisions about psychedelics.
The US had the hippy movement and while we sort of did, not to the same level.
My conspiracy brain tells me this is down to the drug companies. How will they hook people on lifetime prescriptions when one dose of shrooms will fix the persons problem over night?
Vote for me. I’d make an international psylocibin day. Pandora’s box would go into undo mode, overnight. I can’t believe alcohol is legal, whilst psylocibin managed to become class A. The personal & social damage caused by alcohol is incredible; it’s more harmful than heroin. Whereas: psylocibin isn’t toxic, & I’ve never seen a bar brawl involving anyone after indulging. One day, we’ll leave the dark ages behind, perhaps.
I’m old enough to remember when the Blair Government hired Dr. David Nutt to research and potentially reclassify controlled substances in Britain.
After months of strenuous research, Nutt concluded that even most controlled substances classified as A in Britain were ‘far less dangerous than horse riding’.
So the Blair Government fired him and hired someone else who gave them the answer they wanted to hear which was ‘Yep, all drugs are bad. We recommend harsher sentences’.
The rules I’m not qualified to comment on though I completely what trust medical professionals/scientists say.
But the attitudes part is classic Britain…. Not exclusive to Britain but a very British thing to have the taboo towards medication and especially in treating stuff like depression…. Our parents generation and further back have been so gaslit and consequently gaslight their descendants generation about issues like depression and how it’s somehow evidence that someone is objectively weaker and that something has gone objectively wrong in their development.
Our establishment in Britain and vast numbers of the older generations are still dangerously backward when it comes to the literal health of their children….