In my masters, I was the only one to get a first. The following year during Covid there was at least 12. Make of that what you will.
I’m glad they’re looking into this.
The “Everyone is a winner” mentality makes everyone’s hard work worth less overall.
Competitiveness and failure is part of acidaemia and certification. Without tough standards and harsh adherence, the worth of the qualification degrades to nothing.
Hypothetically, if you get a better education studying X at Trinity (Ireland’s highest ranked university) than you would studying X at Limerick (ranked far below Trinity), we should expect to see a higher proportion of students getting firsts at Trinity, shouldn’t we?
Similarly, universities are constantly putting pressure on academics to improve their teaching – if academic teaching has improved, wouldn’t we also expect to see more students doing better over time?
I’m not suggesting that grade inflation isn’t caused by other factors, but articles like this never explain what amount of “inflation” is a good thing, and at what point it becomes a problem.
Everybody in my degree that I spoke to afterwards got a first class honours. This was a 4 year part time degree from DBS. Graduated last year, do 2 years of the degree done during covid.
Bad grades could affect their wellness. The poor dears. A’s for everyone!!!!
There was a court case back in 2017 where a lecturer in NCI tried to highlight grade inflation in masters dissertations, and they ended up trying to force him out.
Lecturer settles action against college over alleged defamation
Am seeing the fall in standards in my profession. Cannot deal with anything but all have honors degrees. Remember 50% failed one exam. Grading curve was adjusted so c 5% failed.
Anecdotally I can say this is true. When I got my Masters it was impossible to get a first and pretty difficult even to get in to the course. Five years later, everyone was getting firsts and right after COVID they started actively pursuing people to do MAs. I can only assume it’s for the money.
Went to trinity, firsts in the Classics department were like gold dust
I work teaching in a 3rd level institution and have worked in 2 others over the last few Grade creep is real.
God forbid you fail anyone. The paperwork and meetings and resulting microscopic oversight from your department and external review is not worth the hassle.
Students seem to learn more about complaining and digging to get what they want than actually learning the subject matter. Which I suppose is a life skill….
The every ones a winner culture
What they’re really giving out about, is that institutes of education can no longer be used to perpetuate class inequality.
No longer, can you guarantee that the individual you’re giving a job to, agrees with your graph boy political views by the kind of education someone has.
I seen another article about this recently, where the interviewee basically came out and said, they were giving out masters to people that weren’t speaking the queens english and that it was wrong because they could no longer use it as a means to identify their own class of people.
So I graduated with a 2.1 in IT from a IT which is know a Uni, considering only 12 out 65 graduates at the end of which mean only 18% graduated at the end of the 4 years,
While my MBA I have a 1st class honours ha so it shows anyone can get any kind of grade in college haha
Students are clients now and college is a customer service. You get what you pay for.
They’re not ‘grades’ they’re ‘marks’, yanks.
Did a masters during covid, wasnt much to do but study
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In my masters, I was the only one to get a first. The following year during Covid there was at least 12. Make of that what you will.
I’m glad they’re looking into this.
The “Everyone is a winner” mentality makes everyone’s hard work worth less overall.
Competitiveness and failure is part of acidaemia and certification. Without tough standards and harsh adherence, the worth of the qualification degrades to nothing.
Hypothetically, if you get a better education studying X at Trinity (Ireland’s highest ranked university) than you would studying X at Limerick (ranked far below Trinity), we should expect to see a higher proportion of students getting firsts at Trinity, shouldn’t we?
Similarly, universities are constantly putting pressure on academics to improve their teaching – if academic teaching has improved, wouldn’t we also expect to see more students doing better over time?
I’m not suggesting that grade inflation isn’t caused by other factors, but articles like this never explain what amount of “inflation” is a good thing, and at what point it becomes a problem.
Everybody in my degree that I spoke to afterwards got a first class honours. This was a 4 year part time degree from DBS. Graduated last year, do 2 years of the degree done during covid.
Bad grades could affect their wellness. The poor dears. A’s for everyone!!!!
There was a court case back in 2017 where a lecturer in NCI tried to highlight grade inflation in masters dissertations, and they ended up trying to force him out.
Lecturer settles action against college over alleged defamation
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/lecturer-settles-action-against-college-over-alleged-defamation-1.3086809
Am seeing the fall in standards in my profession. Cannot deal with anything but all have honors degrees. Remember 50% failed one exam. Grading curve was adjusted so c 5% failed.
Anecdotally I can say this is true. When I got my Masters it was impossible to get a first and pretty difficult even to get in to the course. Five years later, everyone was getting firsts and right after COVID they started actively pursuing people to do MAs. I can only assume it’s for the money.
Went to trinity, firsts in the Classics department were like gold dust
I work teaching in a 3rd level institution and have worked in 2 others over the last few Grade creep is real.
God forbid you fail anyone. The paperwork and meetings and resulting microscopic oversight from your department and external review is not worth the hassle.
Students seem to learn more about complaining and digging to get what they want than actually learning the subject matter. Which I suppose is a life skill….
The every ones a winner culture
What they’re really giving out about, is that institutes of education can no longer be used to perpetuate class inequality.
No longer, can you guarantee that the individual you’re giving a job to, agrees with your graph boy political views by the kind of education someone has.
I seen another article about this recently, where the interviewee basically came out and said, they were giving out masters to people that weren’t speaking the queens english and that it was wrong because they could no longer use it as a means to identify their own class of people.
So I graduated with a 2.1 in IT from a IT which is know a Uni, considering only 12 out 65 graduates at the end of which mean only 18% graduated at the end of the 4 years,
While my MBA I have a 1st class honours ha so it shows anyone can get any kind of grade in college haha
Students are clients now and college is a customer service. You get what you pay for.
They’re not ‘grades’ they’re ‘marks’, yanks.
Did a masters during covid, wasnt much to do but study