>The Irish will never be tamed while the leaves are on the trees.
One of those fake maps where a tree is too short…
We’re a cow processing facility
Oh yeah imagine we didn’t plant some of the best soil for growing food in the world.
Well this officially makes me sad 😔
Ok, gonna sit back and wait for the Coillte brigade to show up and tell us why we’re stupid for saying coillte are bad and only want to profit.
These isles look a bit bare
Very sad. The Caledonian Forest (all the green in Scotch Highlands), probably the largest in the British Isles at 17, 900 ha, is nothing but a spec. Kilarney Forest at a 10,289 ha sounds like alot but it’s nothing.
It was once said a wolf could walkp from Kilarney to Antrim and never take a step outside the trees, that’s how much woodland was in Ireland
Have you €3k? Buy an acre of poor land and plant it. Forestry land is valued at about €2k/ac.
If you’ll look the areas with lots of trees tend to be mountains. It’s not so much an Irish issue as it is a “developing country cuts down trees to use space for farmland, towns, cities, etc.” and now the space is being used it’s very difficult to just replant trees.
Well we used to have lots. If only we could know how one of our natural resources was stripped out from under us and taken away.
Fucking farmers
And yet Eamon Ryan still wants to reintroduce wolves here.
Was back in Ireland and saw a lot more conifer woodland than yesrs ago, especually on the bogs.
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It’s a problem and we should do something about it
Sweden is just one giant tree at this point…
Scotland has some because of the ancient Caledonian Forest which goes back 9000 years. I think England has less forests per countries size than Ireland.
This map is bollix. Last time I checked there was hundreds of thousands of miles of hedgerows in the country… literally hundreds of thousands of miles.
Quick google search, Ireland has 300,000kms, France has 7000km, Germany has none. Majority of the rest of the countries have none.
If you wanted to help bring woodland planting into legislation there’s the final meeting for the citizen’s assembly on Biodiversity Loss (which had a whole day dedicated to woodlands back in October) that’s accepting submissions still, whose outputs are going to be brought before the House of the Oireachtas later this year
Mad that one of Finland’s largest exports is forest-related (paper, timber, etc) yet they still have one of the richest woodlands in Europe.
A nice map that shows land generally unsuitable for much else, mountainous, poor soils, bad drainage, unpopulated, that sort of thing.
One thing here in Switzerland that I have noted is that the communities really do like managing their forests well. Some are specific for firewood and are managed for such, others are too poor of quality even for that and are managed as natural environments. Some are definitely commercial forest wood crops, and that’s accepted as a norm here – nobody is criticising those who practice that the same as a certain cohort of Irish do. I can see as well here that the local hunters do assist strongly with the forest managment, but the wild game and other animals wouldn’t do so well in ireland (wild boar, wolf, lynx, etc).
I’ve seen the same mentality in southern Germany as well regarding forestry management overall, where the forests are carefully and correctly managed, both as commercial entities and as community-relevant natural resources.
All our ancient forests were destroyed by the brits to make ships.
I moved to Germany a couple years ago. Before my first visit here I had this picture in my head that it would be concrete jungle, grey and industrious looking especially in comparison to Ireland…. How wrong was I!
The area where I live has so much forest and so much wildlife in comparison to home. It really made me realize how stripped bare of trees Ireland is. Hopefully this will change at some time
We used to be one of the most forested places in the world 1000 years ago. The land was cleared for animal grazing. In 2022 we should be moving away from this and towards reforestation and rewilding
I remember finding a nice little camping spot in Glencree. then one day we were driving past them on a trip to Wicklow and the whole place was cut down. this was when we still had restricted travel in our lockdowns, so it really pissed me off. I just sometimes feel like when we try to do new things or even just be one with nature, we’re all just forced to forced back into the pubs as a only means of entertainment or hobby. but thats an entire different discussion
You can thank the British empire that.
The British empire was conquered by the British navy.
The British navy was built on Irish oak.
Forests; the lungs of Mother Earth, she needs to quit the smoking
I think more national parks are needed, separate entirely from Coillte who’s remit it is to make a profit, always thought Nephin in Mayo would be a good test case,take the sheep off and rewild / replant the whole thing with native Irish tree’s where appropriate, not used for timbre industry but for biodiversity
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Thats actually insanity, I thought we would have a lot more….
The Brits built their boats with it.
https://www.wolfgangreforest.ie/irish-forestry-history/
>The Irish will never be tamed while the leaves are on the trees.
One of those fake maps where a tree is too short…
We’re a cow processing facility
Oh yeah imagine we didn’t plant some of the best soil for growing food in the world.
Well this officially makes me sad 😔
Ok, gonna sit back and wait for the Coillte brigade to show up and tell us why we’re stupid for saying coillte are bad and only want to profit.
These isles look a bit bare
Very sad. The Caledonian Forest (all the green in Scotch Highlands), probably the largest in the British Isles at 17, 900 ha, is nothing but a spec. Kilarney Forest at a 10,289 ha sounds like alot but it’s nothing.
It was once said a wolf could walkp from Kilarney to Antrim and never take a step outside the trees, that’s how much woodland was in Ireland
Have you €3k? Buy an acre of poor land and plant it. Forestry land is valued at about €2k/ac.
If you’ll look the areas with lots of trees tend to be mountains. It’s not so much an Irish issue as it is a “developing country cuts down trees to use space for farmland, towns, cities, etc.” and now the space is being used it’s very difficult to just replant trees.
Well we used to have lots. If only we could know how one of our natural resources was stripped out from under us and taken away.
Fucking farmers
And yet Eamon Ryan still wants to reintroduce wolves here.
Was back in Ireland and saw a lot more conifer woodland than yesrs ago, especually on the bogs.
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It’s a problem and we should do something about it
Sweden is just one giant tree at this point…
Scotland has some because of the ancient Caledonian Forest which goes back 9000 years. I think England has less forests per countries size than Ireland.
This map is bollix. Last time I checked there was hundreds of thousands of miles of hedgerows in the country… literally hundreds of thousands of miles.
Quick google search, Ireland has 300,000kms, France has 7000km, Germany has none. Majority of the rest of the countries have none.
If you wanted to help bring woodland planting into legislation there’s the final meeting for the citizen’s assembly on Biodiversity Loss (which had a whole day dedicated to woodlands back in October) that’s accepting submissions still, whose outputs are going to be brought before the House of the Oireachtas later this year
Mad that one of Finland’s largest exports is forest-related (paper, timber, etc) yet they still have one of the richest woodlands in Europe.
A nice map that shows land generally unsuitable for much else, mountainous, poor soils, bad drainage, unpopulated, that sort of thing.
One thing here in Switzerland that I have noted is that the communities really do like managing their forests well. Some are specific for firewood and are managed for such, others are too poor of quality even for that and are managed as natural environments. Some are definitely commercial forest wood crops, and that’s accepted as a norm here – nobody is criticising those who practice that the same as a certain cohort of Irish do. I can see as well here that the local hunters do assist strongly with the forest managment, but the wild game and other animals wouldn’t do so well in ireland (wild boar, wolf, lynx, etc).
I’ve seen the same mentality in southern Germany as well regarding forestry management overall, where the forests are carefully and correctly managed, both as commercial entities and as community-relevant natural resources.
All our ancient forests were destroyed by the brits to make ships.
I moved to Germany a couple years ago. Before my first visit here I had this picture in my head that it would be concrete jungle, grey and industrious looking especially in comparison to Ireland…. How wrong was I!
The area where I live has so much forest and so much wildlife in comparison to home. It really made me realize how stripped bare of trees Ireland is. Hopefully this will change at some time
We used to be one of the most forested places in the world 1000 years ago. The land was cleared for animal grazing. In 2022 we should be moving away from this and towards reforestation and rewilding
I remember finding a nice little camping spot in Glencree. then one day we were driving past them on a trip to Wicklow and the whole place was cut down. this was when we still had restricted travel in our lockdowns, so it really pissed me off. I just sometimes feel like when we try to do new things or even just be one with nature, we’re all just forced to forced back into the pubs as a only means of entertainment or hobby. but thats an entire different discussion
You can thank the British empire that.
The British empire was conquered by the British navy.
The British navy was built on Irish oak.
Forests; the lungs of Mother Earth, she needs to quit the smoking
I think more national parks are needed, separate entirely from Coillte who’s remit it is to make a profit, always thought Nephin in Mayo would be a good test case,take the sheep off and rewild / replant the whole thing with native Irish tree’s where appropriate, not used for timbre industry but for biodiversity
Italy. Wow.