>#Police accused of ‘harassing’ youths who were found to be carrying machetes
>__Members of public shout abuse at police who stopped and searched group of youths__
>By Dominic Nicholls, ASSOCIATE EDITOR
>6 November 2022 • 5:03pm
>Stop and search police have been accused of “harassing” youths who were found to be carrying two machetes.
>Police in Hackney, east London, were abused and shouted at by passers-by when they went to deal with a group of youths on Friday night.
>They went on to find two sheathed blades, each about 30cm long.
>The Homerton Policing Team issued a photograph of the curved machetes to explain why they considered their actions necessary.
>Officers wrote on Twitter: “To the two members of the public who tried to obstruct us whilst we were dealing with a group of youths in Retreat Place E9 tonight, shouting at us & accusing us of harassing the youths, if you tried to listen to us we may have been able to show you what we found.”
>Earlier in the night, the team had also used the social media site to highlight that they were conducting high visibility reassurance patrols, intelligence-led weapon sweeps, and block sweeps.
>They said the operations were aimed at deterring fireworks-linked anti-social behaviour, as well as crime.
>The incident occurred after analysis of police data by The Telegraph revealed that as few as one in six crimes involving a knife, including murders, rapes and grievous bodily harm, are being solved by police.
>It comes even as the number of offences hits a record high in parts of England and Wales.
>Data show that seven police forces – a quarter of the total – saw knife crime hit a record high in the year ending March 2022.
>However, the proportion of knife offences resulting in a charge or other criminal sanction fell by at least 50 per cent in the past six years, despite the seriousness of the crimes and the risk posed to the public.
>__London mayor__
>In London, which accounts for between a fifth and a quarter of all knife crime, just one in six offences involving a knife has been solved over the past two years.
>London mayor Sadiq Khan suggested in August a spate of violent crime in the capital was due to longer days, school holidays and summer heatwaves.
>After a spate of six homicides in the capital in less than a week, Mr Khan told LBC: “We have seen over the last few days, the last week, a number of awful homicides.
>“I’m afraid this summer we are seeing what we feared, which is an increase in violent crime.
>“There are longer daylight hours, school holidays, a heatwave and so forth.”
>His comments led to Sajid Javid, the former Home Secretary, saying Londoners had been “let down” over knife crime.
>Speaking on Talk TV, Mr Javid said: “There’s always an excuse in Sadiq’s world and what we need to do is stop playing politics.”
>Detective Chief Inspector Yasmin Lalani said: “I understand that there is a lot we need to do to rebuild the trust of our communities and it can be alarming to a passer-by to see officers exercising some of their lawful powers.
>“Police officers deal with dynamic situations on a daily basis, often in difficult circumstances, and understand that their actions will be rightly scrutinised. The public have the right to hold them to account where appropriate and this is a level of scrutiny we welcome and entirely accept as part of our role in policing London.”
>The Metropolitan Police were asked to comment.
Two members of the public tried to obstruct police officers carrying out their lawful duties.
Instead of arresting and charging the individuals in question they decided to post about it on twitter.
Should have dragged the people sticking their oar in straight to the police station.
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No doubt they would be the first ones crying to the police when they get mugged by the vermin carrying machetes that they were crying about being searched.
What would have set off these individuals, news stories about stop and search being abused? Statistically speaking the machete carrying youths were probably not white British.
Have a look at the names and faces of the teenagers who’ve died in London in 2022 due to knife crime. If those harassing the police had succeeded we might be adding more names to the list.
Although it’s an unpopular opinion on r/uk the police have limited resources and need to target the groups who are most likely to be doing these crimes. I’m sure stop and search is upsetting, being knifed or losing a relative or friend to knife crime is even more upsetting.
>Despite making up only 13% of London’s total population, black Londoners account for 45% of London’s knife murder victims, 61% of knife murder perpetrators and 53% of knife crime perpetrators.
That is such a misleading headline, the way its written implies that there was some sort of official accusation against the police not that two random locals were shouting at them.
This shit is mainly a symptom of the drug war. Where rival gangs are fucking with each other mainly over drugs, sometimes over respect.
End prohibition and violent crime takes a tumble.
End prohibition, legalise drugs and put millions into poor communities and mental health facilities and suddenly you see violent crime disappear even further.
Young men who are so insecure they’re stabbing someone for disrespect need mental help.
I recall a video from a while back where a black woman starts “interfering” in the search of two black teenagers by the Police in London.
She soon stops when the Police retrieve a large blade from down the trackie bottoms of one of the lads, essentially right in front of her.
I sometimes wonder if the people harassing the Police in such circumstances are gang plants deliberately trying to make the Police’s work more difficult, or just morons.
I wonder if its worth doing a social experiment where no black youths were stopped and searched for any reason. I sense a thread on WCGW
This is what happens in Tory Britain – another case of aspiring urban chefs being harassed by the police purely because of their skin colour.
Also, why aren’t the police and government doing anything about all the young people being stabbed?! They don’t seem to care about them because of the colour of their skin.
this annoys me. when somebody gets stopped and searched, it’s usually for a reason. EVEN IF YOU LOOK SUSPICIOUS, THAT IS A REASON FOR A STOP AND SEARCH. if you’re wearing hoodies, or in a group of people with hoodies, you obviously look suspicious. there are gangs all over that city. will you be shouting ‘ABUSE’ once some kid has been stabbed to death because YOU interfered with a stop and search? fucking morons man
Yeah not sure the individuals carrying weapons can be too hurt about being stopped and searched
Stereotypes exist for a reason. Police aren’t mind readers or have a crystal ball. They have to stop and search those most likely to be carrying weapons. Well done to the police 🚔
Someone once tweeted whoever steps in to sort this problem out is going to accused of being racist
Lets go down a more barbaric system. Caught with a knife you get stabbed, caught with a machete, you get a limb chopped off. See how many are willing to carry these weapons then
16 quid machete. Fucking hell I guess crime really dosent pay.
What kind of psychos carry machetes around anyway? Not just a little knife 🔪 “just in case”, but a full on machete..
Would it be wrong to disappear these people..
Gone are the days when I could happily carry my machete to office… !
It’s not a race problem, it’s a culture problem. It’s a small minority of people who have had a poor upbringing in the UK or come from another country, bringing their own culture and not interested in British values/ culture.
Scarface is worshipped by too many people, drug culture, knife culture, gun culture etc. Its a movie not a life coaching session.
Not everyone is lucky enough to have a good upbringing, these people need to be picked up at a young age and helped, not left to sink or swim (current tory policy). If we can help people to get an education or avoid criminal records and a life of crime, we can help break the cycle.
Another factor is that the police don’t solve enough crimes and the CPS doesn’t prosecute enough cases. People litterally get away with murder. So they remain on the streets. When the CPS do win a case, the defendent gets a slap on the wrist and returns to the streets.
Are Machetes a legal weapon.
Or are The Police carrying out their duties, to start making Communities safe.
Why is this even a topic of discussion or news for that matter?
Youths needs to be charged for harm and abuse. They don’t care and they don’t listen to any sort of authority. In recent years we’ve had youths killing their own, killing policement, arson—it’s freaking crazy to think what teenagers are capable of these days.
I’ve actually got that exact same machete and it’s really useful in the garden.
Just take a look at r/ukdrill to see how these muppets are casually killing each other.
Put up silent knife arches everywhere and impose minimum immediate jail for anyone carrying these stupid zombie knives or machetes.
Snatch them off the street and lock em up on the opposite side of the country for 5 years, no parole no time off for nice behaviour.
Race baiting headline.
2 member of the public doesn’t really issue a news story of accusation. If you’d have said 2 idiots bothered police while searching for weapons then yes. But if all it takes is 2 member of the public to shout some crap. We’d have news stories every 2 seconds about other pointless crap.
Police continue to be harassed for doing their job.
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>#Police accused of ‘harassing’ youths who were found to be carrying machetes
>__Members of public shout abuse at police who stopped and searched group of youths__
>By Dominic Nicholls, ASSOCIATE EDITOR
>6 November 2022 • 5:03pm
>Stop and search police have been accused of “harassing” youths who were found to be carrying two machetes.
>Police in Hackney, east London, were abused and shouted at by passers-by when they went to deal with a group of youths on Friday night.
>They went on to find two sheathed blades, each about 30cm long.
>The Homerton Policing Team issued a photograph of the curved machetes to explain why they considered their actions necessary.
>Officers wrote on Twitter: “To the two members of the public who tried to obstruct us whilst we were dealing with a group of youths in Retreat Place E9 tonight, shouting at us & accusing us of harassing the youths, if you tried to listen to us we may have been able to show you what we found.”
>Earlier in the night, the team had also used the social media site to highlight that they were conducting high visibility reassurance patrols, intelligence-led weapon sweeps, and block sweeps.
>They said the operations were aimed at deterring fireworks-linked anti-social behaviour, as well as crime.
>The incident occurred after analysis of police data by The Telegraph revealed that as few as one in six crimes involving a knife, including murders, rapes and grievous bodily harm, are being solved by police.
>It comes even as the number of offences hits a record high in parts of England and Wales.
>Data show that seven police forces – a quarter of the total – saw knife crime hit a record high in the year ending March 2022.
>However, the proportion of knife offences resulting in a charge or other criminal sanction fell by at least 50 per cent in the past six years, despite the seriousness of the crimes and the risk posed to the public.
>__London mayor__
>In London, which accounts for between a fifth and a quarter of all knife crime, just one in six offences involving a knife has been solved over the past two years.
>London mayor Sadiq Khan suggested in August a spate of violent crime in the capital was due to longer days, school holidays and summer heatwaves.
>After a spate of six homicides in the capital in less than a week, Mr Khan told LBC: “We have seen over the last few days, the last week, a number of awful homicides.
>“I’m afraid this summer we are seeing what we feared, which is an increase in violent crime.
>“There are longer daylight hours, school holidays, a heatwave and so forth.”
>His comments led to Sajid Javid, the former Home Secretary, saying Londoners had been “let down” over knife crime.
>Speaking on Talk TV, Mr Javid said: “There’s always an excuse in Sadiq’s world and what we need to do is stop playing politics.”
>Detective Chief Inspector Yasmin Lalani said: “I understand that there is a lot we need to do to rebuild the trust of our communities and it can be alarming to a passer-by to see officers exercising some of their lawful powers.
>“Police officers deal with dynamic situations on a daily basis, often in difficult circumstances, and understand that their actions will be rightly scrutinised. The public have the right to hold them to account where appropriate and this is a level of scrutiny we welcome and entirely accept as part of our role in policing London.”
>The Metropolitan Police were asked to comment.
Two members of the public tried to obstruct police officers carrying out their lawful duties.
Instead of arresting and charging the individuals in question they decided to post about it on twitter.
Should have dragged the people sticking their oar in straight to the police station.
​
No doubt they would be the first ones crying to the police when they get mugged by the vermin carrying machetes that they were crying about being searched.
What would have set off these individuals, news stories about stop and search being abused? Statistically speaking the machete carrying youths were probably not white British.
https://crystalroof.co.uk/report/postcode/E96RN/demographics?tab=ethnic-makeup
Have a look at the names and faces of the teenagers who’ve died in London in 2022 due to knife crime. If those harassing the police had succeeded we might be adding more names to the list.
https://www.londonworld.com/news/crime/london-teenage-homicides-2022-names-faces-every-young-person-killed-capital-this-year-3804019
Although it’s an unpopular opinion on r/uk the police have limited resources and need to target the groups who are most likely to be doing these crimes. I’m sure stop and search is upsetting, being knifed or losing a relative or friend to knife crime is even more upsetting.
>Despite making up only 13% of London’s total population, black Londoners account for 45% of London’s knife murder victims, 61% of knife murder perpetrators and 53% of knife crime perpetrators.
https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/commission-on-knife-crime-in-black-community
That is such a misleading headline, the way its written implies that there was some sort of official accusation against the police not that two random locals were shouting at them.
This shit is mainly a symptom of the drug war. Where rival gangs are fucking with each other mainly over drugs, sometimes over respect.
End prohibition and violent crime takes a tumble.
End prohibition, legalise drugs and put millions into poor communities and mental health facilities and suddenly you see violent crime disappear even further.
Young men who are so insecure they’re stabbing someone for disrespect need mental help.
I recall a video from a while back where a black woman starts “interfering” in the search of two black teenagers by the Police in London.
She soon stops when the Police retrieve a large blade from down the trackie bottoms of one of the lads, essentially right in front of her.
I sometimes wonder if the people harassing the Police in such circumstances are gang plants deliberately trying to make the Police’s work more difficult, or just morons.
I wonder if its worth doing a social experiment where no black youths were stopped and searched for any reason. I sense a thread on WCGW
This is what happens in Tory Britain – another case of aspiring urban chefs being harassed by the police purely because of their skin colour.
Also, why aren’t the police and government doing anything about all the young people being stabbed?! They don’t seem to care about them because of the colour of their skin.
this annoys me. when somebody gets stopped and searched, it’s usually for a reason. EVEN IF YOU LOOK SUSPICIOUS, THAT IS A REASON FOR A STOP AND SEARCH. if you’re wearing hoodies, or in a group of people with hoodies, you obviously look suspicious. there are gangs all over that city. will you be shouting ‘ABUSE’ once some kid has been stabbed to death because YOU interfered with a stop and search? fucking morons man
Yeah not sure the individuals carrying weapons can be too hurt about being stopped and searched
Damn police always harassing youths carrying machetes.
Stereotypes exist for a reason. Police aren’t mind readers or have a crystal ball. They have to stop and search those most likely to be carrying weapons. Well done to the police 🚔
Someone once tweeted whoever steps in to sort this problem out is going to accused of being racist
Lets go down a more barbaric system. Caught with a knife you get stabbed, caught with a machete, you get a limb chopped off. See how many are willing to carry these weapons then
16 quid machete. Fucking hell I guess crime really dosent pay.
What kind of psychos carry machetes around anyway? Not just a little knife 🔪 “just in case”, but a full on machete..
Would it be wrong to disappear these people..
Gone are the days when I could happily carry my machete to office… !
It’s not a race problem, it’s a culture problem. It’s a small minority of people who have had a poor upbringing in the UK or come from another country, bringing their own culture and not interested in British values/ culture.
Scarface is worshipped by too many people, drug culture, knife culture, gun culture etc. Its a movie not a life coaching session.
Not everyone is lucky enough to have a good upbringing, these people need to be picked up at a young age and helped, not left to sink or swim (current tory policy). If we can help people to get an education or avoid criminal records and a life of crime, we can help break the cycle.
Another factor is that the police don’t solve enough crimes and the CPS doesn’t prosecute enough cases. People litterally get away with murder. So they remain on the streets. When the CPS do win a case, the defendent gets a slap on the wrist and returns to the streets.
Are Machetes a legal weapon.
Or are The Police carrying out their duties, to start making Communities safe.
Why is this even a topic of discussion or news for that matter?
Youths needs to be charged for harm and abuse. They don’t care and they don’t listen to any sort of authority. In recent years we’ve had youths killing their own, killing policement, arson—it’s freaking crazy to think what teenagers are capable of these days.
I’ve actually got that exact same machete and it’s really useful in the garden.
Just take a look at r/ukdrill to see how these muppets are casually killing each other.
Put up silent knife arches everywhere and impose minimum immediate jail for anyone carrying these stupid zombie knives or machetes.
Snatch them off the street and lock em up on the opposite side of the country for 5 years, no parole no time off for nice behaviour.
Race baiting headline.
2 member of the public doesn’t really issue a news story of accusation. If you’d have said 2 idiots bothered police while searching for weapons then yes. But if all it takes is 2 member of the public to shout some crap. We’d have news stories every 2 seconds about other pointless crap.
Police continue to be harassed for doing their job.