Glaven vir za to številko: [https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/feb/23/revealed-migrant-worker-deaths-qatar-fifa-world-cup-2022](https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/feb/23/revealed-migrant-worker-deaths-qatar-fifa-world-cup-2022)
Gre za število umrlih delavcev iz tujih držav, verjetno je številka precej prenizka in mora znašati okoli 15.000. Teh delavcev je glede na demografijo Katara prišlo cca dober milijon (2012 – 1.8 mil ljud, 2022 – 2,9 mil ljud). Članek tudi opiše, da ne gre za smrti povezane z gradnjo svetovnega prvenstva. Smrti delavcev, ki so delali na stadionih za svetovno prvenstvo je bilo 37, od tega 34 nedelavnih nesreč.
Mogoče se komu še vedno zdi veliko število umrlih nasploh, ampak v resnici je povsem primerljivo s Slovenijo, kjer na leto umre cca 2500 odraslih moških starosti od 15-65 let. Skupaj v 10 letih cca 27 tisoč odraslih moških, damo napol in smo pri primerljivih cifrah. 13500 odraslih moških v 10 letih.
Daljši fact check, če ne verjamete meni: [https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-how-many-people-have-died-for-the-qatar-world-cup/a-63763713](https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-how-many-people-have-died-for-the-qatar-world-cup/a-63763713)
V glavnem če kdo ne bo gledal svetovnega zaradi števila umrlih, si je izbral slab razlog. (to je nekak glavnih razlog, ki ga slišim na spletu) Ostali razlogi kot npr. korupcija, ogromni stroški, odnos do žensk itd. so boljši razlogi, ampak ta ki je največkrat omenjen je povsem lažen.
Kratek edit: v fact checku je udarna številka mrtvih migrantov 25.000, kar je spet primerljivo s Slovenijo, ker ima Katar skupno več kot 2 mil migrantov.
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Jaz ga ne bom gledal ker mi ni, ne pa iz nekega šibkega političnega protesta.
Dobr post, se mi je zdelo fishy
če je razlog za negledanje je to 2010 PTSD 🔪 DONOVAN🔪
No sam da je Guardian fact checking naredil. Fijuh. Zdej je pa kr naenkrat vse drugač. Lol
Jaz ga ne bom gledal, ker so prepovedali pivo.
V obeh člankih so izpostavili, da so ali skeptični glede podatkov ali pa da ne morjo vedt kaj je absolutna resnica, ker so podatki iz Katarja…
Fifa je sinonim korupcije, al imas rad nogomet ali ne.
Ta tvoj daljši fact check se povsem ne strinja stabo in tudi jasno izpostavi, da primerjava migrantskih delavcev z generalno populacijo ni primerna.
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>Migrant workers in Qatar are fundamentally healthy upon arrival. For instance, the proportion of small children and elderly people — demographic groups with the highest mortality rates — among migrant workers in Qatar is clearly incomparable with that among a general population of any country.Furthermore, migrant workers in Qatar, whatever their background or job, are generally healthy people who have to pass a whole range of medical checks in order to obtain a Qatari visa, filtering out potential applicants with infectious diseases such as AIDS/HIV, hepatitis B and C, syphilis or tuberculosis.
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>The official acknowledgement of three deaths, therefore, discounts fatalities, which may have occurred on other construction sites which likely wouldn’t have existed without the World Cup. It also fails to take into account thousands of documented cases of migrant workers dying in their accommodation outside of shift hours, for which no adequate explanations have been provided.
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>According to research by The Guardian and Amnesty International, the latter using figures provided by the government of Bangladesh, Qatari doctors ascribe around 70% of fatalities to “natural deaths” caused by acute cardio-respiratory failures.
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>However, for epidemiologists, heart and breathing failures are not causes of death but results. The cause of a cardiac arrest could be a heart attack or other irregularity, while respiratory failure could be caused by an allergic reaction or poisoning.
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>But no such explanations are given. Indeed, in a 2022 documentary series by German public broadcaster ARD, Qatari doctors even report being forced to fill out death certificates as such.
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>According to experts interviewed by Amnesty International, precise causes of death go undetermined in only 1% of cases in “properly managed health systems.” Furthermore, invasive autopsies are rarely necessary. In around 85% of cases, verbal autopsies involving witnesses or acquaintances of the deceased are sufficient.
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>Human rights organizations such as Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and Fairsquare regularly speak to such witnesses, whose reports suggest that heat stroke, exhaustion or even minor illnesses that go untreated are at the root of many sudden unexplained deaths.
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>In conclusion, figures referring to fatalities in connection with the 2022 World Cup vary depending on definition, including of where migrant workers came from, where and when they died, and whether their deaths can be described as work-related or not. However, given the inconsistencies and shortcomings in Qatar’s own official data, a concrete conclusion is impossible to ascertain, which in turn raises the question as to why exactly the Qatari authorities are unable to provide reliable information.
Iz tvojega drugega linka.
imenovalnik Kátar
rodilnik Kátarja
dajalnik Kátarju
tožilnik Kátar
mestnik pri Kátarju
orodnik s Kátarjem
ePravopis: Slovenski pravopis 2014?2017: Slovar, http://www.fran.si, dostop 18. 11. 2022.
Sej je bla še tista fora da si Katar kupit gostenje Spja zaradi nakupa vojaških letal od Francozov
https://www.rtvslo.si/sport/nogomet/qatar-2022/blatter-priznal-napako-in-vpletel-nekdanjega-francoskega-predsednika/646553
Kakorkoli, to sranje ni vredno mojga cajta
Najprej so zgradil stadione zj pa navijajo za nemcijo, spanijo, anglijo itd
Najbolj beli evropski navijaci
https://fb.watch/gTrLaLBer9/
Kako si lahko tako naiven da podpiras Katar?