>”We think it’s really important to show our values. And that’s what we’ll be doing.”
You’re in Qatar playing football, that shows what your values are. This empty piece of virtue signaling shows you also think we’re idiots.
England prepared to give extra money to theocratic absolute monarchy
As a gay person, I can tell you emphatically this means nothing to me.
This is patronising at best and performative activism at worst.
Just don’t pay the fine?
I don’t hate England for participating, I hate FIFA for letting it happen.
Sure, it’s a ‘good intentioned’ thing to do, but when you’ve agreed to play a World Cup in Qatar, everything afterwards just seems a bit pointless.
Playing in a homophobic country in a stadium built by slaves, thousands* of whom died during construction?
Slap an arm band on, it’ll be right
*Edit
I’m inn two minds about this…it’s a bit of an empty gesture, but at the same time how to you raise awareness and change people’s perceptions if you don’t engage with them in any way? By sealing Qatar off all it does is enable their medieval nonsense views to continue unchallenged.
If anything, England should be playing in full rainbow kit with ‘LGBTQ+ Rights’ emblazoned on the back, and every player just have the name “Gay is OK” or something similar.
This whole thing is ridiculous. The Uk is propped up by countries that behave in a way we would never accept in the Uk. We buy shit from china and fill our cars up with oil from the Middle East. The footballers should either not go out of protest or go and get on with it. The hypocrisy of the west is massive and no westerner has clean hands. It shouldnt be on footballers to make a statement when every one of us freely goes about our lives funding these nations without a care.
By a lot of the logic here Jesse Owens was a hypocritical piece of shit for racing in Berlin in 36.
None of this is the player’s fault, all of it is FIFA’s fault.
Bend the knee, wear the patch. Signal all the virtues.
I think it’s good. If FIFA and QATAR want to hush this topic down for their world cup then we should shove it in their faces in every interview, game etc. I appreciate the protest and statement of OUR values.
When people come to our country we let them display their values and they should do the same for us.
Before kickoff all players should exchange a brief kiss and cuddle.
You can, at home, also take a stand by not watching
This is really going to change the hosts minds about their values and win the World Cup for England 🏴
If you’re angry about this, at least start with the people who made the decision and make most money from Qatar.
Good. Tired of homophobes using Islam as an excuse to be homophobic
This optics on this is about as consistent as going to play a football tournament in Sun City in apartheid South Africa, whist wearing a “free Nelson mandela” armband….
I swear sometimes this sub is equivalent to the Daily Mail comment section in terms of frothing rage
How many openly Gay footballer players is England taking? Do as we say not as we do!
That will show them. Wonder if they will still take the knee?
“I feel bad for those who get fucked by it…by this dumb game we woke westerners play where we say all the right shibboleths
so everyone likes us.”
Ignore the fine. You don’t owe Qatar a god damn thing.
FIFA have a lot to answer for after this World Cup.
How about just don’t pay the fine. Is Qatar really prepared to start detaining footballers?
let’s hope england put Iran to slaughter in their first game
Bring on the fines who gives a fuck. They should wear shorts with the arse cut out as well
It’s unreasonable to expect harry kane to sacrifice the most meaningful competition he will compete in. And to blame him, despite protesting more than any other England players there, is dumb. If he were to drop out he would probably disappoint more people than his participation in the world cup will.
Most the people slating him probably will never do anything as impactful in their lives against homophobia than wearing that armband. We all passively participate in systems that violate Human rights. Our clothes, technologies and food contribute to human and animal rights violations.
This is the kind of thing that makes me hate England slightly less
All teams should just sit in the centre circle and drink Budweiser!
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>”We think it’s really important to show our values. And that’s what we’ll be doing.”
You’re in Qatar playing football, that shows what your values are. This empty piece of virtue signaling shows you also think we’re idiots.
England prepared to give extra money to theocratic absolute monarchy
As a gay person, I can tell you emphatically this means nothing to me.
This is patronising at best and performative activism at worst.
Just don’t pay the fine?
I don’t hate England for participating, I hate FIFA for letting it happen.
Sure, it’s a ‘good intentioned’ thing to do, but when you’ve agreed to play a World Cup in Qatar, everything afterwards just seems a bit pointless.
Playing in a homophobic country in a stadium built by slaves, thousands* of whom died during construction?
Slap an arm band on, it’ll be right
*Edit
I’m inn two minds about this…it’s a bit of an empty gesture, but at the same time how to you raise awareness and change people’s perceptions if you don’t engage with them in any way? By sealing Qatar off all it does is enable their medieval nonsense views to continue unchallenged.
If anything, England should be playing in full rainbow kit with ‘LGBTQ+ Rights’ emblazoned on the back, and every player just have the name “Gay is OK” or something similar.
This whole thing is ridiculous. The Uk is propped up by countries that behave in a way we would never accept in the Uk. We buy shit from china and fill our cars up with oil from the Middle East. The footballers should either not go out of protest or go and get on with it. The hypocrisy of the west is massive and no westerner has clean hands. It shouldnt be on footballers to make a statement when every one of us freely goes about our lives funding these nations without a care.
By a lot of the logic here Jesse Owens was a hypocritical piece of shit for racing in Berlin in 36.
None of this is the player’s fault, all of it is FIFA’s fault.
Bend the knee, wear the patch. Signal all the virtues.
I think it’s good. If FIFA and QATAR want to hush this topic down for their world cup then we should shove it in their faces in every interview, game etc. I appreciate the protest and statement of OUR values.
When people come to our country we let them display their values and they should do the same for us.
Before kickoff all players should exchange a brief kiss and cuddle.
You can, at home, also take a stand by not watching
This is really going to change the hosts minds about their values and win the World Cup for England 🏴
If you’re angry about this, at least start with the people who made the decision and make most money from Qatar.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-hails-10-billion-qatari-vote-of-confidence-in-the-uk
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/revealed-qatars-secret-880m-world-cup-payments-to-fifa-p3r5rvw9x
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-iag-qatar-stake-investments-factbox-idUKKBN20D1EC
https://m.thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/13/02/2020/Qatar%E2%80%99s-investment-in-UK-exceeds-%C2%A340bn
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9397819/FIFA-earn-3-billion-Qatar-2022-World-Cup-workers-make-8-30-day.html
https://www.traveldailynews.com/post/dmg-events-establishes-office-in-qatar. DMG is Daily Mail Group
Good. Tired of homophobes using Islam as an excuse to be homophobic
This optics on this is about as consistent as going to play a football tournament in Sun City in apartheid South Africa, whist wearing a “free Nelson mandela” armband….
I swear sometimes this sub is equivalent to the Daily Mail comment section in terms of frothing rage
How many openly Gay footballer players is England taking? Do as we say not as we do!
That will show them. Wonder if they will still take the knee?
“I feel bad for those who get fucked by it…by this dumb game we woke westerners play where we say all the right shibboleths
so everyone likes us.”
Ignore the fine. You don’t owe Qatar a god damn thing.
FIFA have a lot to answer for after this World Cup.
How about just don’t pay the fine. Is Qatar really prepared to start detaining footballers?
let’s hope england put Iran to slaughter in their first game
Bring on the fines who gives a fuck. They should wear shorts with the arse cut out as well
It’s unreasonable to expect harry kane to sacrifice the most meaningful competition he will compete in. And to blame him, despite protesting more than any other England players there, is dumb. If he were to drop out he would probably disappoint more people than his participation in the world cup will.
Most the people slating him probably will never do anything as impactful in their lives against homophobia than wearing that armband. We all passively participate in systems that violate Human rights. Our clothes, technologies and food contribute to human and animal rights violations.
This is the kind of thing that makes me hate England slightly less
All teams should just sit in the centre circle and drink Budweiser!