I don’t think you could find a more bias source to be honest.
>Tim Slatter, the UK chairman of Ford, described the move as “short-sighted”.
>”We are still many years from the ‘tipping point’ when electric vehicles will reach cost parity with petrol and diesel vehicles. Until then, we should be incentivising customers to make the greener choice,” he said.
So a government running a massive budget deficit should incentive sales for a company that made £20+ billion in profit. How about Ford incentivises the greener choice by making less profit off of it.
UK Ford boss is wrong. Electrics cars still contribute to the wear and tear of UK roads and in many ways more so as they are heavier than their EV equivalent.
The opposite. We’re supposed to be phasing out petrol cars by the end of this decade. It’s obviously not viable to have an ever-increasing percentage of the nation’s cars exempt from road tax.
I’m hoping that this happening means that the bands for combustion vehicles go up as well, so the electrics are still the cheapest band.
Not really , roads cost money, electric cars will need to pay for them as petrol is phased out.
Thats not to mention electric cars are not the best long term solution.
I’m not buying an electric car cos I can’t afford a £50k+ car.
Whether there’s a £100-£200 charge a year on it makes no difference to affording the car. This line of argument is very flawed.
You also cant just force people out of their current method of transport by raising the cost of that too. That just further drives poverty and the gap between poor and not. How would you even get out of poverty if you can’t afford a method of transport to get to work (or a better paying job)? Housing near jobs would also be at a premium too so living closer to work wouldn’t work.
Why?
If you want lower taxes start investing in clean hydrogen infrastructure and vehicles
Electric car battery disposal is an environmental nightmare still to come
Plus, with petrol and diesel cars going, who is going to pay the rad tax?
Never forget, electric cars are here to save the car industry, not the planet.
We do not have enough raw materials to replace every petrol car in the world one-for-one with electric cars. There’s no where near enough lithium or rare earth mineral extraction to do it and there isn’t going to be enough on any timescale that remotely matters for preventing climate change.
This entire policy regime is predicated on the idea that the price of batteries will continue to fall forever while supply exponentially increases but that isn’t going to happen because it is not _physically_ possible to dig stuff out of the ground fast enough.
What we need to be doing instead is rethinking how we build our cities and transport infrastructure so that the vast majority of people simply do not *need* to own a car. This is partly densification, partly better public transit, partly better cycle infrastructure and partly rezoning. You can’t just infinitely add charges and taxes on drivers, you need to provide them with alternatives that are at least as good, if not better. It’s not hard or even particularly expensive, there’s no political will.
Instead what’s probably going to happen is just like housing, energy and public infrastructure we’re going to do nothing while pretending that future technology will magically everything cheaper and better, then when it inevitably doesn’t the government and the media will turn around and say “if you just cut back on Netflix and Avocados you’d have the money to get to work”.
Stop taxing things that puts up the prices of our products!
Says every company that wants to put its own prices up without the governement taking a slice.
Car tax is a really regressive tax at the minute. The poorest, who are driving the oldest and least efficient cars, are paying for more than the wealthy driving around in new vehicles. Road ta would be much better if it was linked to the value of the vehicle.
If they also do away with the salary sacrifice benefits I just won’t have a car; I only have one as it is because my wife wants one.
What a bizarre view. Expecting electric vehicles to remain untaxed is the more short-sighted position.
Oh yeah because £20/£100 road tax is really going to put people off lol
Its even more short sighted to think that it would never happen as ICE car tax revenues fell
Electric cars still use tyres, plastics, oils, and compete with you heating with your house. And they still clog cities and run people over, so externables have to be charged
How do I know that the horse I’m getting for my new horse and cart doesn’t shit all over the place. That’s the way it’s going.
get rid gf VED, add a tax to Tyres, that way you have a per-mile charge built into them…
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I don’t think you could find a more bias source to be honest.
>Tim Slatter, the UK chairman of Ford, described the move as “short-sighted”.
>”We are still many years from the ‘tipping point’ when electric vehicles will reach cost parity with petrol and diesel vehicles. Until then, we should be incentivising customers to make the greener choice,” he said.
So a government running a massive budget deficit should incentive sales for a company that made £20+ billion in profit. How about Ford incentivises the greener choice by making less profit off of it.
UK Ford boss is wrong. Electrics cars still contribute to the wear and tear of UK roads and in many ways more so as they are heavier than their EV equivalent.
The opposite. We’re supposed to be phasing out petrol cars by the end of this decade. It’s obviously not viable to have an ever-increasing percentage of the nation’s cars exempt from road tax.
I’m hoping that this happening means that the bands for combustion vehicles go up as well, so the electrics are still the cheapest band.
Not really , roads cost money, electric cars will need to pay for them as petrol is phased out.
Thats not to mention electric cars are not the best long term solution.
I’m not buying an electric car cos I can’t afford a £50k+ car.
Whether there’s a £100-£200 charge a year on it makes no difference to affording the car. This line of argument is very flawed.
You also cant just force people out of their current method of transport by raising the cost of that too. That just further drives poverty and the gap between poor and not. How would you even get out of poverty if you can’t afford a method of transport to get to work (or a better paying job)? Housing near jobs would also be at a premium too so living closer to work wouldn’t work.
Why?
If you want lower taxes start investing in clean hydrogen infrastructure and vehicles
Electric car battery disposal is an environmental nightmare still to come
Plus, with petrol and diesel cars going, who is going to pay the rad tax?
Never forget, electric cars are here to save the car industry, not the planet.
We do not have enough raw materials to replace every petrol car in the world one-for-one with electric cars. There’s no where near enough lithium or rare earth mineral extraction to do it and there isn’t going to be enough on any timescale that remotely matters for preventing climate change.
This entire policy regime is predicated on the idea that the price of batteries will continue to fall forever while supply exponentially increases but that isn’t going to happen because it is not _physically_ possible to dig stuff out of the ground fast enough.
What we need to be doing instead is rethinking how we build our cities and transport infrastructure so that the vast majority of people simply do not *need* to own a car. This is partly densification, partly better public transit, partly better cycle infrastructure and partly rezoning. You can’t just infinitely add charges and taxes on drivers, you need to provide them with alternatives that are at least as good, if not better. It’s not hard or even particularly expensive, there’s no political will.
Instead what’s probably going to happen is just like housing, energy and public infrastructure we’re going to do nothing while pretending that future technology will magically everything cheaper and better, then when it inevitably doesn’t the government and the media will turn around and say “if you just cut back on Netflix and Avocados you’d have the money to get to work”.
Stop taxing things that puts up the prices of our products!
Says every company that wants to put its own prices up without the governement taking a slice.
Car tax is a really regressive tax at the minute. The poorest, who are driving the oldest and least efficient cars, are paying for more than the wealthy driving around in new vehicles. Road ta would be much better if it was linked to the value of the vehicle.
If they also do away with the salary sacrifice benefits I just won’t have a car; I only have one as it is because my wife wants one.
What a bizarre view. Expecting electric vehicles to remain untaxed is the more short-sighted position.
Oh yeah because £20/£100 road tax is really going to put people off lol
Its even more short sighted to think that it would never happen as ICE car tax revenues fell
Electric cars still use tyres, plastics, oils, and compete with you heating with your house. And they still clog cities and run people over, so externables have to be charged
How do I know that the horse I’m getting for my new horse and cart doesn’t shit all over the place. That’s the way it’s going.
get rid gf VED, add a tax to Tyres, that way you have a per-mile charge built into them…
Well ofc manufacturers will say that
What a nothing article