In the article, one guy says he travelled 6 hours and was refused entry to a B&B. Why wouldn’t you check before hand if dogs were allowed? You sleeping at a B&B, meaning the dog would be staying too, so it’s not just popping in and out of a business, so I can see why they refused. I’m not saying it’s morally justified, but Ican understand in that particular instance.
I have a friend who is visually impaired and uses a guide dog (golden retriever). The dog is appropriately marked and certified. He told me that in majority of cases (not all) he finds that if the shop/restaurant/taxi is run by people of MENA or Pakistan background they are far more likely to refuse service despite knowing he has a guide dog. It got so bad that he can’t order a taxi anymore as they simply put the phone down as soon as he informs them he has a guide dog.
This does not surprise me at all. People really ain’t trained or many of them just don’t care. We love punching down in this country, it’s like we are winning …… Right?
The problem is that if action needs to be taken against an organisation for failing to comply, it has to be taken by the person who was discriminated against – this is absolutely out of order, there should be a government organisation with responsibility for this.
Really baffled by this, I’m not visually impaired, my dog is not trained as an assistive/support dog and we still get invited into stores..
Start actually fining business and fining them hard- they are breaking the law.
And don’t just blame your employee, train them so they are in no doubt what to do should a guide dog need to be in the business
I once got told I could not take my stick into a restaurant.
The manager actually tried to wrestle it from me, but he did not succeed because, well, I had a stick.
If I owned a business I’d welcome the hard working woofers.
Are they truly guide dogs, or those stupid emotional support dogs.
I experience this all the time. My dog has more education than me, is cleaner than me, and is better behaved. Her livery has her status written on it 11 times & we still get thrown out of places. I actually have been targeted for crime twice because I am so visibly vulnerable. The cabs won’t take us. We have it especially bad because she is not a yellow lab. I have been told to my face that black dogs cannot be service dogs. We get abuse on every day out. I had to fight tooth & nail to bring her into Uni. So much abuse, just so I can do more than just survive. She is the best person I have ever met.
Ok this is shit BUT…kind of a useless media stat.
During a whole lifetime…you’re bound to get one prick who will refuse entry. That’s just maths. Go through enough doors…you will meet a twat. So that’s the stat. Just one incidence. I’m surprised this stat isn’t 100%.
So I don’t love this type of reporting. Raising awareness won’t fix the problem – it’s kind of already fixed. Most people are decent and will obviously allow a guide dog.
But some people are born twats and those twats have jobs. Laws already exist.
**(What it actually is, is a fundraising effort by Guide Dogs to get their name in the press by causing more outrage, anxiety etc.**
**I promise you, the PR team at Guide Dogs has a meeting that said how can we get in the press? We need a shocking stat.**
**Obviously it’s a good cause, but I’m so tired (literally tired) of constant negative journalism by PR shills.**
**Source: I alongside PR teams.**
This is awful, but it’s probably a result of many businesses being fed up with the influx of non-working dogs. I posted elsewhere how it winds me up when you’re in a cafe or restaurant to have Fido sniffing round your feet. Or sandwich. Or crotch. Sort that out and people will be more patient/tolerant of the ones that actually need to be there.
You can’t have a dog in a restaurant. It’s unhygienic.
We trained guide dogs when I was younger, so would have them from pups until about a year old.
The ignorance around back then was terrible, the pup would wear a Day-Glo lanyard which said it was a guide dog in training but the minute shop keepers etc saw you weren’t in ‘need’ of guide dog they’d get shirty.
I do however have a story told to me by one of the people who took one of our guide dogs as they were blind. Actually it was a joke but it was one of my favourite jokes ever.
So they told me they’d taken our guide dog into HMV, picked him up and started swinging him round his head, retail assistant walked over and asked them if they were okay and they replied to the assistant ‘yeah, I’m just having a look around’ I was sore laughing from that, he had me right up until the last line.
I loved meeting the people who got our dogs, I loved learning about how they adapted.
One of our pups didn’t make the grade though, a bit boisterous, she was called Inca. Ben Fogle ended up with her.
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I’d like to know how many people were surveyed.
In the article, one guy says he travelled 6 hours and was refused entry to a B&B. Why wouldn’t you check before hand if dogs were allowed? You sleeping at a B&B, meaning the dog would be staying too, so it’s not just popping in and out of a business, so I can see why they refused. I’m not saying it’s morally justified, but Ican understand in that particular instance.
I have a friend who is visually impaired and uses a guide dog (golden retriever). The dog is appropriately marked and certified. He told me that in majority of cases (not all) he finds that if the shop/restaurant/taxi is run by people of MENA or Pakistan background they are far more likely to refuse service despite knowing he has a guide dog. It got so bad that he can’t order a taxi anymore as they simply put the phone down as soon as he informs them he has a guide dog.
This does not surprise me at all. People really ain’t trained or many of them just don’t care. We love punching down in this country, it’s like we are winning …… Right?
The problem is that if action needs to be taken against an organisation for failing to comply, it has to be taken by the person who was discriminated against – this is absolutely out of order, there should be a government organisation with responsibility for this.
Really baffled by this, I’m not visually impaired, my dog is not trained as an assistive/support dog and we still get invited into stores..
Start actually fining business and fining them hard- they are breaking the law.
And don’t just blame your employee, train them so they are in no doubt what to do should a guide dog need to be in the business
I once got told I could not take my stick into a restaurant.
The manager actually tried to wrestle it from me, but he did not succeed because, well, I had a stick.
If I owned a business I’d welcome the hard working woofers.
Are they truly guide dogs, or those stupid emotional support dogs.
I experience this all the time. My dog has more education than me, is cleaner than me, and is better behaved. Her livery has her status written on it 11 times & we still get thrown out of places. I actually have been targeted for crime twice because I am so visibly vulnerable. The cabs won’t take us. We have it especially bad because she is not a yellow lab. I have been told to my face that black dogs cannot be service dogs. We get abuse on every day out. I had to fight tooth & nail to bring her into Uni. So much abuse, just so I can do more than just survive. She is the best person I have ever met.
Ok this is shit BUT…kind of a useless media stat.
During a whole lifetime…you’re bound to get one prick who will refuse entry. That’s just maths. Go through enough doors…you will meet a twat. So that’s the stat. Just one incidence. I’m surprised this stat isn’t 100%.
So I don’t love this type of reporting. Raising awareness won’t fix the problem – it’s kind of already fixed. Most people are decent and will obviously allow a guide dog.
But some people are born twats and those twats have jobs. Laws already exist.
**(What it actually is, is a fundraising effort by Guide Dogs to get their name in the press by causing more outrage, anxiety etc.**
**I promise you, the PR team at Guide Dogs has a meeting that said how can we get in the press? We need a shocking stat.**
**Obviously it’s a good cause, but I’m so tired (literally tired) of constant negative journalism by PR shills.**
**Source: I alongside PR teams.**
This is awful, but it’s probably a result of many businesses being fed up with the influx of non-working dogs. I posted elsewhere how it winds me up when you’re in a cafe or restaurant to have Fido sniffing round your feet. Or sandwich. Or crotch. Sort that out and people will be more patient/tolerant of the ones that actually need to be there.
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This is illegal under [The Equalities Act 2010](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/equality-act-2010-guidance#equalities-act-2010-legislation) as you can no discriminate against someone with a protected characteristic which also means denying people service because of something they need to function or trying to take it away from them
You can’t have a dog in a restaurant. It’s unhygienic.
We trained guide dogs when I was younger, so would have them from pups until about a year old.
The ignorance around back then was terrible, the pup would wear a Day-Glo lanyard which said it was a guide dog in training but the minute shop keepers etc saw you weren’t in ‘need’ of guide dog they’d get shirty.
I do however have a story told to me by one of the people who took one of our guide dogs as they were blind. Actually it was a joke but it was one of my favourite jokes ever.
So they told me they’d taken our guide dog into HMV, picked him up and started swinging him round his head, retail assistant walked over and asked them if they were okay and they replied to the assistant ‘yeah, I’m just having a look around’ I was sore laughing from that, he had me right up until the last line.
I loved meeting the people who got our dogs, I loved learning about how they adapted.
One of our pups didn’t make the grade though, a bit boisterous, she was called Inca. Ben Fogle ended up with her.