and in comparison, how long do you think it would take DCC to put up dog poo signs?
Not sure about the others, but the O’Connell Street ones development planning permission has been appealed by Mary Lou McDonald.
1. Building any housing here would destroy ~~the rising value of my house~~ the character of the neighbourhood.
2. Anything constructed here might be visible from the Spire, which is entirely unacceptable.
3. Can’t build anything here, as it’s too close to those back gardens, and there could be children playing back there at times, and the construction workers might look down and be able to see them.
4. Not enough local amenities to support any new residences there. Why, the Lidl might have to open another checkout lane sometimes, with all that extra traffic!
Pic 1 in Goatstown is a site for a new school. Department of Education have submitted plans for it – not sure if it has been approved yet.
Pic 4 is St Teresa’s Gardens which is going to be developed by DCC however that’ll take forever as DCC are really slow and locals will object non stop based on how they’ve objected to everything proposed on the Hines owned site next to it.
Pic 1 – planning permission stage for school
Pic 2 – planning permission held up due to objections to development by Sinn Fein
Pic 3 – vacant land
Pic 4 – Housing development planning permission stage
You can find the status of any piece of land online on the land registry site, local council sites for planning permissions and objections or search for sale history of the address / Street.
Can I ask how you get pictures like that? Looks like Google maps but my Google maps doesn’t look like that. Is there some button I’ve missed?
They’ve recently been cleaning up the Finglas site (opposite Clearwater/Prospect Hill, beside the old Premier Dairies).
Hope you’re correct about a school as other schools are busy, but be nice if there was one built by Charlestown. All the children in the new estates have to go to Ballymun or Finglas Village, clogging up roads. When I lived up there, drove me mad.
I’ve actually been an engineer on both pics 1 and 2. The Premier Dairies site was going to be a 3 block development with 250 or so apartments, was fully designed and had planning permission via SHD but the residents behind threw a hissy fit and sued over it. Merville Place SHD.
The site on O’Connell Street is Dublin Central, which went through about 10 designs because Chartered Land/Hammerson kept changing their mind. There is also some bullshit about people wanting to keep parts of the site exactly as it is because 1916, which is providing delay now. I would put money on the biggest part of the delay currently being Metrolink though, it was originally meant to completely close O’Connell Street for the duration of construction – now (and on my suggestion, I might add) the station is to fit within the footprint of the Dublin Central site, and I’d bet that Hammerson can’t move on construction until the station is built by the Metrolink contractor.
Pic 4 is the former St Teresa’s Gardens site. The flats there were mostly demolished around 2014/15. Two blocks are still standing. There are multiple projects in the area, including the [Donore Project](https://donoreproject.ie/) which covers the area where the flats were, and the [Bailey Gibson / Player Wills](https://bgscr1shd2.ie/) project. There have been about 50 houses built along Margaret Kennedy Road since that image was taken, they opened in 2021.
These have all been held up multiple times by legal actions and revised planning applications. The Donore project is currently for about 700 mostly social and low cost homes, with some blocks up to 15 storeys in height. Phase 1 of the Bailey Gibson project is currently for 345 homes, mostly apartments and mostly build-to-let. The legal issues for that project involve the European Courts so nothing is likely to happen until 2024/25 with that one.
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and in comparison, how long do you think it would take DCC to put up dog poo signs?
Not sure about the others, but the O’Connell Street ones development planning permission has been appealed by Mary Lou McDonald.
1. Building any housing here would destroy ~~the rising value of my house~~ the character of the neighbourhood.
2. Anything constructed here might be visible from the Spire, which is entirely unacceptable.
3. Can’t build anything here, as it’s too close to those back gardens, and there could be children playing back there at times, and the construction workers might look down and be able to see them.
4. Not enough local amenities to support any new residences there. Why, the Lidl might have to open another checkout lane sometimes, with all that extra traffic!
Pic 1 in Goatstown is a site for a new school. Department of Education have submitted plans for it – not sure if it has been approved yet.
Pic 4 is St Teresa’s Gardens which is going to be developed by DCC however that’ll take forever as DCC are really slow and locals will object non stop based on how they’ve objected to everything proposed on the Hines owned site next to it.
Pic 1 – planning permission stage for school
Pic 2 – planning permission held up due to objections to development by Sinn Fein
Pic 3 – vacant land
Pic 4 – Housing development planning permission stage
You can find the status of any piece of land online on the land registry site, local council sites for planning permissions and objections or search for sale history of the address / Street.
Can I ask how you get pictures like that? Looks like Google maps but my Google maps doesn’t look like that. Is there some button I’ve missed?
They’ve recently been cleaning up the Finglas site (opposite Clearwater/Prospect Hill, beside the old Premier Dairies).
Hope you’re correct about a school as other schools are busy, but be nice if there was one built by Charlestown. All the children in the new estates have to go to Ballymun or Finglas Village, clogging up roads. When I lived up there, drove me mad.
I’ve actually been an engineer on both pics 1 and 2. The Premier Dairies site was going to be a 3 block development with 250 or so apartments, was fully designed and had planning permission via SHD but the residents behind threw a hissy fit and sued over it. Merville Place SHD.
The site on O’Connell Street is Dublin Central, which went through about 10 designs because Chartered Land/Hammerson kept changing their mind. There is also some bullshit about people wanting to keep parts of the site exactly as it is because 1916, which is providing delay now. I would put money on the biggest part of the delay currently being Metrolink though, it was originally meant to completely close O’Connell Street for the duration of construction – now (and on my suggestion, I might add) the station is to fit within the footprint of the Dublin Central site, and I’d bet that Hammerson can’t move on construction until the station is built by the Metrolink contractor.
Pic 4 is the former St Teresa’s Gardens site. The flats there were mostly demolished around 2014/15. Two blocks are still standing. There are multiple projects in the area, including the [Donore Project](https://donoreproject.ie/) which covers the area where the flats were, and the [Bailey Gibson / Player Wills](https://bgscr1shd2.ie/) project. There have been about 50 houses built along Margaret Kennedy Road since that image was taken, they opened in 2021.
These have all been held up multiple times by legal actions and revised planning applications. The Donore project is currently for about 700 mostly social and low cost homes, with some blocks up to 15 storeys in height. Phase 1 of the Bailey Gibson project is currently for 345 homes, mostly apartments and mostly build-to-let. The legal issues for that project involve the European Courts so nothing is likely to happen until 2024/25 with that one.