>He said he had worked in kitchens for 20 years and was now “a better chef” because of the “horrible, horrible circumstance”.
Oh eek. He really just tried to spin this as a thing for personal growth and all that? Bit awkward.
As a chef hed know that undercooked food is dangerous and can kill.
How is this not manslaughter ?
So why wasn’t this manslaughter? He contravened food regulations, thereby committing an unlawful act, and a person died. That is by definition manslaughter.
I had similar with a ‘pie’. The puff pastry lid was cooked but the stew was stone cold. Spat it out immediately and rinsed my mouth with beer.
And the landlord had the nerve to get arsey because I wanted my money back rather than have it replaced with other potentially shitty food on the menu.
Seems to be more like the meat was possibly not fresh, poorly prepared and stored rather than just undercooked. You can eat mince/meat raw if it is fresh.
Sounds horrible.
How the hell do you undercook a shepherds pie? First you need to cook the meat sauce, the meat is small pieces and so cooks within minutes.
Then you put mash on the top and bake it, it should have been thoroughly cooked.
It sounds more like it was left out too long at room temperature (already dangerous) and then not reheated sufficiently either (also dangerous).
I don’t understand how you can “undercook” a shepherds pie
it seems weird to me how the company (who had been getting bad health inspection resports for years) got off with only a £3000 fine.
It doesnt’ sound as though the chef was working in an environment where working saftely would have been ok with the owners. That doesn’t take away his responsibility entierly but the owners should have had their business closed and assets siezed for causing a death in this way.
£3000 is far too lenient for the people that were responsible for the working conditions that led to the death.
Bizarre use of English – one of the diners “was killed” by the pie. Well, he may have *died from eating the pie* but I don’t think he “was killed” by it.
Interesting, this article popped up right as I’m baking a pie. I suppose I’m gonna be extra careful now.
Don’t you cook the meat first before assembling the dish or is that an American thing?
Imagine making it to 92 and being offed by some fuckwit who doesn’t understand basic food hygiene.
It’s a much bigger deal than it might have been because somebody died, but it’s a serious reminder that you can’t fuck about with food hygiene and whatnot no matter how much people might complain about the concept of ‘health and safety’.
Rough to go to jail over it but when you’re in a position of responsibility you are, y’know, responsible.
They should put on their menu “food so good you’ll die for it.”
RIP to the poor lady who died. I feel sorry for the chef though honestly. Everyone makes mistakes at work, not all of them end up killing somebody. This is presuming he does genuinely feel remorse, but honestly knowing your error killed someone is likely punishment enough. If that’s the case, it’s not like he’d ever make the mistake again.
“Wot you in for mate?”
“Contravening food hygiene regulations.”
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im assuming this shit would be on your record, i wonder if this tanks his career
Am I right that if he’d worked at a police canteen, and killed a copper, he’d get a mandatory life sentence now?
Oh damn. When I was a kid I wrote a song about how much I love shepherds pie. This just taints my memory
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>He said he had worked in kitchens for 20 years and was now “a better chef” because of the “horrible, horrible circumstance”.
Oh eek. He really just tried to spin this as a thing for personal growth and all that? Bit awkward.
As a chef hed know that undercooked food is dangerous and can kill.
How is this not manslaughter ?
So why wasn’t this manslaughter? He contravened food regulations, thereby committing an unlawful act, and a person died. That is by definition manslaughter.
I had similar with a ‘pie’. The puff pastry lid was cooked but the stew was stone cold. Spat it out immediately and rinsed my mouth with beer.
And the landlord had the nerve to get arsey because I wanted my money back rather than have it replaced with other potentially shitty food on the menu.
Seems to be more like the meat was possibly not fresh, poorly prepared and stored rather than just undercooked. You can eat mince/meat raw if it is fresh.
Sounds horrible.
How the hell do you undercook a shepherds pie? First you need to cook the meat sauce, the meat is small pieces and so cooks within minutes.
Then you put mash on the top and bake it, it should have been thoroughly cooked.
It sounds more like it was left out too long at room temperature (already dangerous) and then not reheated sufficiently either (also dangerous).
I don’t understand how you can “undercook” a shepherds pie
it seems weird to me how the company (who had been getting bad health inspection resports for years) got off with only a £3000 fine.
It doesnt’ sound as though the chef was working in an environment where working saftely would have been ok with the owners. That doesn’t take away his responsibility entierly but the owners should have had their business closed and assets siezed for causing a death in this way.
£3000 is far too lenient for the people that were responsible for the working conditions that led to the death.
Bizarre use of English – one of the diners “was killed” by the pie. Well, he may have *died from eating the pie* but I don’t think he “was killed” by it.
Interesting, this article popped up right as I’m baking a pie. I suppose I’m gonna be extra careful now.
Don’t you cook the meat first before assembling the dish or is that an American thing?
Imagine making it to 92 and being offed by some fuckwit who doesn’t understand basic food hygiene.
It’s a much bigger deal than it might have been because somebody died, but it’s a serious reminder that you can’t fuck about with food hygiene and whatnot no matter how much people might complain about the concept of ‘health and safety’.
Rough to go to jail over it but when you’re in a position of responsibility you are, y’know, responsible.
They should put on their menu “food so good you’ll die for it.”
RIP to the poor lady who died. I feel sorry for the chef though honestly. Everyone makes mistakes at work, not all of them end up killing somebody. This is presuming he does genuinely feel remorse, but honestly knowing your error killed someone is likely punishment enough. If that’s the case, it’s not like he’d ever make the mistake again.
“Wot you in for mate?”
“Contravening food hygiene regulations.”
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im assuming this shit would be on your record, i wonder if this tanks his career
Am I right that if he’d worked at a police canteen, and killed a copper, he’d get a mandatory life sentence now?
Oh damn. When I was a kid I wrote a song about how much I love shepherds pie. This just taints my memory