I think the correct word in this case woul be humbling .
“**Education Minister Giuseppe Valditara on Thursday called for the humiliation of school students who have been violent against their peers by punishing them**, making them do socially useful work.
Reiterating his call for socially useful work schemes for violent students, Valditara said “only by working for the community, humiliating yourself can you reform the students, long live humiliation, which is a fundamental factor in growth and character building, with respect to your classmates, that’s where you take responsibility for your actions and you do work for the community.”
This new “Minister” is highly controversial and already hated by young students, he is from a right wing party (League) which is openly Putin Supportive and he has very nasty views on the school system (ban cellphones, install cctv cameras in schools…)
His words from italian media:
“Evviva l’umiliazione (Hoorray for Humiliation), un fattore fondamentale nella crescita dei giovani (a Fundamental factor in the growth of youngsters)”
Today he admitted he should have used another term, but the damage is already done.
putin supportive party and he’s against communism?
Humiliation sounds so harsh but humbling them by making them do socially beneficial work is a good thing in my opinion. Most of the time violent students don’t get punished at all, often times the perpetrators get preferantial treatment over the victims.
Sooo, reading a bit the news it turns out our education minister is so educated he confused the words “humiliating” and “humbling”. His idea is basically that if you are a violent kid you should do community work as a punishment, which, he claims, is much better than just suspending kids from school and letting them do whatever they want with their free time.
I think the translation (and his choice of words) was not great, I heard the audio and he said that basically he supports community works and similar “punishment” because it will cause a social stigma on the bullying behaviour. Basically, if a potential bully sees a “proper” bully being shamed and forced to do what is considered being a humiliating work he may think twice before doing something. It’s kind of a fear of punishment that is supposed to keep borderline behaviour at bay
Found the news also on italian media, half of his speech was omitted, still the word humiliation is a bit harsh
I don’t think making kids do community work will solve shit. Maybe invest that money into school psychologists or something and take care of them so that they don’t end up being violent. I don’t see how punishment will make a violent kid less violent lmao
About fucking time someone standing up to school bullies somewhere in the world.
Some context here:
1 italy has a raging baby gang/juvenile criminality problem. It’s about time someone start to do something.
2 i like many others, think he meant to say “humbling”. Knowing how theese politicians think he could have tought: umile (humble) -> umiliare (humiliate)
He probably tought that he could use a strong word that it’s used for humiliate and mean something else in the context. That’s not how that word works tough. I don’t think he want to go back hitting children.
3 teachers have already lost a lot of power, they are paid poorly, they are not valued in society, parents usually defend their children against every accusation, even when they are wrong, schools are severly underfounded. We’ll see how this thing goes
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I think the correct word in this case woul be humbling .
“**Education Minister Giuseppe Valditara on Thursday called for the humiliation of school students who have been violent against their peers by punishing them**, making them do socially useful work.
Reiterating his call for socially useful work schemes for violent students, Valditara said “only by working for the community, humiliating yourself can you reform the students, long live humiliation, which is a fundamental factor in growth and character building, with respect to your classmates, that’s where you take responsibility for your actions and you do work for the community.”
This new “Minister” is highly controversial and already hated by young students, he is from a right wing party (League) which is openly Putin Supportive and he has very nasty views on the school system (ban cellphones, install cctv cameras in schools…)
His words from italian media:
“Evviva l’umiliazione (Hoorray for Humiliation), un fattore fondamentale nella crescita dei giovani (a Fundamental factor in the growth of youngsters)”
Today he admitted he should have used another term, but the damage is already done.
putin supportive party and he’s against communism?
Humiliation sounds so harsh but humbling them by making them do socially beneficial work is a good thing in my opinion. Most of the time violent students don’t get punished at all, often times the perpetrators get preferantial treatment over the victims.
Sooo, reading a bit the news it turns out our education minister is so educated he confused the words “humiliating” and “humbling”. His idea is basically that if you are a violent kid you should do community work as a punishment, which, he claims, is much better than just suspending kids from school and letting them do whatever they want with their free time.
I think the translation (and his choice of words) was not great, I heard the audio and he said that basically he supports community works and similar “punishment” because it will cause a social stigma on the bullying behaviour. Basically, if a potential bully sees a “proper” bully being shamed and forced to do what is considered being a humiliating work he may think twice before doing something. It’s kind of a fear of punishment that is supposed to keep borderline behaviour at bay
Found the news also on italian media, half of his speech was omitted, still the word humiliation is a bit harsh
I don’t think making kids do community work will solve shit. Maybe invest that money into school psychologists or something and take care of them so that they don’t end up being violent. I don’t see how punishment will make a violent kid less violent lmao
About fucking time someone standing up to school bullies somewhere in the world.
Some context here:
1 italy has a raging baby gang/juvenile criminality problem. It’s about time someone start to do something.
2 i like many others, think he meant to say “humbling”. Knowing how theese politicians think he could have tought: umile (humble) -> umiliare (humiliate)
He probably tought that he could use a strong word that it’s used for humiliate and mean something else in the context. That’s not how that word works tough. I don’t think he want to go back hitting children.
3 teachers have already lost a lot of power, they are paid poorly, they are not valued in society, parents usually defend their children against every accusation, even when they are wrong, schools are severly underfounded. We’ll see how this thing goes