Whenever I see other people type these comments on Facebook (many from Muslims) I always ask if they respect China laws with what they do to muslims. That usually changes their tune instantly.
Our politicians don’t even respect the law of the UK, fuck right off James
“James Cleverly talks shit again”
In other news, bears shit in the woods and the sky is blue
Even though we find their law reprehensible, there’s nothing the FO can generally do if a citizen is arrested for breaking the law in another country.
What should he do? Tell people that are going over there to act as they would be able in a civilised society and risk getting beaten, arrested, and deported? Hell even in a relatively civilised society we still get homophobic attacks from the mouth breathers, there any attackers would have the support of the majority of the country and it’s rulers.
The footballers will probably get away with making a low key show of support such as Kane’s rainbow laces, but an average person would be taking a big chance. The safest option is not to go and boycott the whole corrupt endeavour.
As much as this sucks, it’s objectively good advice because Qatar might kill you if you exercise any freedom.
In any case I’m not going to follow the world cup because it’s bullshit holding it in a country with no football culture and that casually allows workers to die in the name of building single-use stadiums in the desert.
That is the right advice. I’m gay, and have given that advice to one of my own (also gay) friends. I did first advise him not to go at all though.
He isn’t wrong.
Cleverly isn’t stating this out of support towards the Qatari government, but because he doesn’t want any of his countrymen to face deportation, imprisonment or corporal punishment for breaking their laws.
That being said, I don’t think you’re gonna get any LGBTQ+ football fans in Qatar this year anyway. It’s bad enough that Qatar outlaws same sex relationships, but I don’t even think gay couples would even be safe within the confines of their own hotel room.
There is also the argument when you invite the world into your home you should be a good host
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“to ensure that English and Welsh – or whatever other British fans”
Great comms here James
What does that even mean? They should just turn their gay switch off when visiting?
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Whenever I see other people type these comments on Facebook (many from Muslims) I always ask if they respect China laws with what they do to muslims. That usually changes their tune instantly.
Our politicians don’t even respect the law of the UK, fuck right off James
“James Cleverly talks shit again”
In other news, bears shit in the woods and the sky is blue
Even though we find their law reprehensible, there’s nothing the FO can generally do if a citizen is arrested for breaking the law in another country.
What should he do? Tell people that are going over there to act as they would be able in a civilised society and risk getting beaten, arrested, and deported? Hell even in a relatively civilised society we still get homophobic attacks from the mouth breathers, there any attackers would have the support of the majority of the country and it’s rulers.
The footballers will probably get away with making a low key show of support such as Kane’s rainbow laces, but an average person would be taking a big chance. The safest option is not to go and boycott the whole corrupt endeavour.
As much as this sucks, it’s objectively good advice because Qatar might kill you if you exercise any freedom.
In any case I’m not going to follow the world cup because it’s bullshit holding it in a country with no football culture and that casually allows workers to die in the name of building single-use stadiums in the desert.
That is the right advice. I’m gay, and have given that advice to one of my own (also gay) friends. I did first advise him not to go at all though.
He isn’t wrong.
Cleverly isn’t stating this out of support towards the Qatari government, but because he doesn’t want any of his countrymen to face deportation, imprisonment or corporal punishment for breaking their laws.
That being said, I don’t think you’re gonna get any LGBTQ+ football fans in Qatar this year anyway. It’s bad enough that Qatar outlaws same sex relationships, but I don’t even think gay couples would even be safe within the confines of their own hotel room.
There is also the argument when you invite the world into your home you should be a good host
[deleted]
“to ensure that English and Welsh – or whatever other British fans”
Great comms here James
What does that even mean? They should just turn their gay switch off when visiting?