This will end Khan’s reign as mayor. It may well be the right approach, I’m not sure, but it just feels like totally the wrong time.
I’d be interested to know where his stats come from as the Imperial study found that particulates dropped by less than 3%.
I’d say too that expanding out to the suburbs appears to be a big cash grab that’s going to upset a lot of people.
So all this does is punish the poor that can’t afford modern or an EV
TFL has a massive deficit post pandemic, this was inevitable
Is this the guy with the fleet or taxpayer funded Range Rovers to protect him from the proles?
It’s a cash grab and there’s a clear bias in that a petrol vehicle only needs to comply with the Euro 4 emissions standard yet a diesel needs to comply with the stricter Euro 6. If it’s really about emissions then the same standard should be applied across the board.
Petrol and diesel to end in 8 years. Tax for both to be hiked significantly every year until we all have electric.
Unless, of course, you drive a 12 year old diesel Black Cab, in which case you’re fine.
Maybe someone on here can clear this up for me. My 21 petrol car which is incredibly thirsty and not particularly fuel effecient is ULEZ compliant. My wife’s 10 year old Diesel which literally just sips fuel is not ULEZ compliant.
Road tax is based on emmisions, and for my old petrol car I have to pay nearly £200 a year. For my wife’s Diesel I pay just over £100. From my understanding this would suggest that my petrol car puts out more emissions than her Diesel but my car will be deemed less polluting (from a ULEZ position) than her one, right?
The most frustrating thing for us is we will literally live right on the border when it kicks in. My wife’s job will also be right on the border of the new expanded zone. To drive to her job she will sometimes be just out of the zone and sometimes just a tiny bit in it. We’ll have no choice really to sell/scrap a perfectly good car as paying £12 a day just isn’t feasible.
I’m fucked, my work is just one road inside the new zone and my car is not ulez.
Normally I take the bus when I’m day shift but take the car when I’m night, so either I’ll have to buy a second hand beater car or increase my night shift commute from 30m to 1h30m.
I support this. The taste of the air in central London used to be horrible but has slowly been getting better. There’s less black bits in my nostrils after cycling on the road breathing car fumes than there used to. I am not anti-car either, I also have a car and drive when I need to.
I will now need to pay £25 every weekend to pick up and drop off my son.
This approach is flawed and unreasonable, I think.
Not only does my 5 minutes of driving into this new expanded zone cost the same as someone who drives 8 hours a day there, but also as a “non-londoner”, I assume I will not be eligible for this scrappage scheme.
Announcing this and then giving people 2-3 years to sort out their personal situations would have been something I could deal with a lot easier. And potentially could have meant that by the time it goes into place, the economic situation could have improved.
As someone who has to commute down a motorway daily to get to work, I felt a diesel was the smarter, cleaner option, being that it has amazing mpg. I can not afford a 15 or 17 plate car and so I suppose I deserve to be punished financially for my financial hardship.
Honestly wish this mayor could be sued personally and have his wealth stripped from him. Let him see how it is to be working class and struggling to make ends meet.
Let’s also keep in mind that his baby (Silvertown tunnel) is being built without a cycle lane or pedestrian access….
Khan is a dangerous idealogue. The ULEZ is nothing more than a money grab. It affects a tiny and ever shrinking percentage of vehicles on the road, and is a disproportionate solution to the problem they pose. Independent studies have shown the existing ULEZ to have had minimal impact on air quality.
Really happy with this.
Hope folks use the public transport system, the environment and the kids say thanks!
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This will end Khan’s reign as mayor. It may well be the right approach, I’m not sure, but it just feels like totally the wrong time.
I’d be interested to know where his stats come from as the Imperial study found that particulates dropped by less than 3%.
I’d say too that expanding out to the suburbs appears to be a big cash grab that’s going to upset a lot of people.
So all this does is punish the poor that can’t afford modern or an EV
TFL has a massive deficit post pandemic, this was inevitable
Is this the guy with the fleet or taxpayer funded Range Rovers to protect him from the proles?
It’s a cash grab and there’s a clear bias in that a petrol vehicle only needs to comply with the Euro 4 emissions standard yet a diesel needs to comply with the stricter Euro 6. If it’s really about emissions then the same standard should be applied across the board.
Petrol and diesel to end in 8 years. Tax for both to be hiked significantly every year until we all have electric.
Unless, of course, you drive a 12 year old diesel Black Cab, in which case you’re fine.
Maybe someone on here can clear this up for me. My 21 petrol car which is incredibly thirsty and not particularly fuel effecient is ULEZ compliant. My wife’s 10 year old Diesel which literally just sips fuel is not ULEZ compliant.
Road tax is based on emmisions, and for my old petrol car I have to pay nearly £200 a year. For my wife’s Diesel I pay just over £100. From my understanding this would suggest that my petrol car puts out more emissions than her Diesel but my car will be deemed less polluting (from a ULEZ position) than her one, right?
The most frustrating thing for us is we will literally live right on the border when it kicks in. My wife’s job will also be right on the border of the new expanded zone. To drive to her job she will sometimes be just out of the zone and sometimes just a tiny bit in it. We’ll have no choice really to sell/scrap a perfectly good car as paying £12 a day just isn’t feasible.
I’m fucked, my work is just one road inside the new zone and my car is not ulez.
Normally I take the bus when I’m day shift but take the car when I’m night, so either I’ll have to buy a second hand beater car or increase my night shift commute from 30m to 1h30m.
I support this. The taste of the air in central London used to be horrible but has slowly been getting better. There’s less black bits in my nostrils after cycling on the road breathing car fumes than there used to. I am not anti-car either, I also have a car and drive when I need to.
I will now need to pay £25 every weekend to pick up and drop off my son.
This approach is flawed and unreasonable, I think.
Not only does my 5 minutes of driving into this new expanded zone cost the same as someone who drives 8 hours a day there, but also as a “non-londoner”, I assume I will not be eligible for this scrappage scheme.
Announcing this and then giving people 2-3 years to sort out their personal situations would have been something I could deal with a lot easier. And potentially could have meant that by the time it goes into place, the economic situation could have improved.
As someone who has to commute down a motorway daily to get to work, I felt a diesel was the smarter, cleaner option, being that it has amazing mpg. I can not afford a 15 or 17 plate car and so I suppose I deserve to be punished financially for my financial hardship.
Honestly wish this mayor could be sued personally and have his wealth stripped from him. Let him see how it is to be working class and struggling to make ends meet.
Let’s also keep in mind that his baby (Silvertown tunnel) is being built without a cycle lane or pedestrian access….
Khan is a dangerous idealogue. The ULEZ is nothing more than a money grab. It affects a tiny and ever shrinking percentage of vehicles on the road, and is a disproportionate solution to the problem they pose. Independent studies have shown the existing ULEZ to have had minimal impact on air quality.
Really happy with this.
Hope folks use the public transport system, the environment and the kids say thanks!