I just said no and closed the door but it has has made me irrationally angry. I never pay tips and never will. The price is the price.
Steve Buscemi in Resovir Dogs explains it best.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sbYy0WdGQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sbYy0WdGQ)
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I’d tip if I felt service stood out. But I do agree the price is the price.
I tip when I have change but I think the driver asking for a tip is crossing the line.
Tips in Ireland are optional anyway. I’d hate to see a precedent starting of tips becoming expected.
Here’s a tip: “Don’t tuck your shirt into your underpants.”
Tip should be just a slight benefit, in terms sure you might get it, not employers excuse to pay minimum wage.
As delivery driver, doesn’t cook food, their job is literally to pickup and deliver, there’s no going above or beyond, five steps from the car in most cases, hardly a labour.
On top this culture to tip, feeds shitty companies that exploit not only takeaways but also pay minimum possible amount to workers.
Then again as kid worked in petrol station with carwash, and customers had always choice to wash their car or get it washed, and I’d expected tips, as youd Have lazy cunts with cars that haven’t seen washes in months, expecting it to be shiny for 4e.
Or say restaurants, while sure workers sign up for waitressing, but if you get good service, not left waiting it’s few euro thanks, but even that could be debated as American culture thing just to fck workers over.
I tried to tip a fella in Galway when I visited a few years ago ( I’m from Canada) . He refused.
The service was impeccable and food was amazing so I just left cash on the table.
Restaurant was called Salt .
I tip when I have cash on hand. But I don’t often carry cash.
Happened a mate of mine. Apparently he wrote to the chipper to complain. Seemed excessive.
But yeah, no tipping needed. Fuck that.
I’d say there was a delivery charge for it which in my experience is 4 euro now.
I live in the middle of no where and only one company delivered and i did tip the drivers my partner thought i shouldnt of because the price is the price .
They implemented a €10 delivery charge that goes to the drivers ,i dont tip them anymore and we dont order takeaway food anymore just cant justify spending whats become well over €50 for a couple of pizza and a spice bag .
I hate creeping Americanisms like this. Fuck off with your shitty tipping culture and let us pay the advertised price.
I always tip drivers but him asking for it straight up ain’t right
I user Deliveroo because you can tip the driver after the fact, I’ve tipped people before I’ve brought my food in and checked if it was all there/not freezing cold and it’s a bit annoying when you’ve given them 2 quid or whatever and there’s something up with the order.
Someone flat out asking for one is a bit cheeky, if they don’t get paid enough from the restaurant that’s a conversation they should have with them, not a customer on their doorstep
Most places near me charge €3 euro or more for delivery on Deliveroo now. I used to keep change by the front door and would always tip €2 out of habit but we’re at a place now where you could be paying a combined €5 for delivery (including tip) on a €13 pizza. Fuck that.
I’d still happily tip if I wasn’t being charged for delivery. The delivery drivers need to take it up with their employers, not expect the customer to fork out even more money.
Ordered food online and payed by card asked my mam to grab it at the door as i was busy, fucking delivery driver said there was a charge of 1.50 the never added on my mam handed him the money and told me thought it was odd then it clicked fucker wanted a tip but because it was payed by a card he decided to make this sht up for it
If the delivery fee included on the restaurants app was a quid I’d tip them. But it’s over 4 quid now. Add that to the price of a meal and it’s 20 quid for a standard enough takeaway. Adding 20% on for delivery already and then them expecting a further % for them is a fucking joke tbh.
Had a dominos delivery driver give me a bit of stick over tipping before
As I said – I paid a delivery fee – it took 55 minutes and I’ve had to walk halfway up the road to find you. Fuuuuck off
Delivery charge is too high to be tipping and if it’s all paid by card why would ya be asking. I did deliveries for a Chinese a few years ago and you’d only get €1.50 per delivery. Some of these lads are getting north of €4 a delivery and a decent float. I know it’s not the best job but a 3in1 tray that used to cost €3.50 now costing ya €16 to have delivered ya can’t be expecting tips out of that, as bad it sounds.
I tip when I have the change but sometimes you just don’t. I’ve messaged just eat more than once about being able to tip through the app.
I use Apple Pay or pay by card 99% of the time for everything not just food so I never really have change whether it be notes or coins for tipping. I’d say that’s the case for many too I don’t think it’s a non tipping culture we have it’s just the way technology made payments easier
Generally drivers are paid dismally so I would always say keep the change if it’s a few quid. Also having worked in hospitality and now working for myself in the service sector I have and do receive tips so I pay it forward always.
If you don’t have it to give that’s fine but I think giving someone a tip for a job well done especially a job I wouldn’t do in 100 years again is fair.
To me it’s only a few euro but could really make a difference in someone’s day. I would never ask though would feel a bit cheeky if someone asked me 🤷🏽♀️
Also you can be guaranteed to always be looked after if you look after people for a job well done!
I tip delivery drivers , apart from one if you pay cash he fumbles for ages for change so that you say ah sure keep it , iv had 5 minute standoffs waiting for my change while my food gets cold , fuck that guy
You’d love Japan.
I’d normally tip good service. But if it’s asked for, you can fuck off.
Don’t mind tipping as I use to do deliveries myself a few years ago but the delivery fees are fucking extortion now. Fee is like 50% of the order so fuck them. Even dominoes are charging for delivery which use to be included in the price, I was happy to tip then but not now
Tips went when post covid delivery charges came. Some places are charging 4-6 euro.
I ordered on Just Eat last week, food arrived 45 mins late, 4 lads in the car the passengers clearly locked. One of them straight up asked me for a tip, I said you must be joking me you’re almost an hour late.
They then proceeded to curse me out of it, calling me a “posh cunt” (I live in a fairly crappy apartment in a nice area) and claimed that they had spat in the food. Called the restaurant to complain and all the owner had to say was that it was a new driver and he’d “have a word with him”.
I was a driver for 3 popular local takeaways for 5 years( finished 10 years ago). I’d work one Thursday, another Friday, and another Saturday.
Nothing got delivered in that local area without me knowing about it lol.
Just thought I’d give some insight into the job. Not just eat or deliveroo. Never worked for them.
Restaurants usually pay cash in hand, around the neighbourhood of €5 per hour. Shift is usually 6 hours (5-11pm). That’s €30. That’s all the restaurant pays the driver. Anything else comes from the customer through the delivery charge and tips.
I am not making an opinion on whether this is right or ‘toxic culture’.
On a busy night I could finish a night with maybe €100 -€130. But there is petrol cost(€10) and the wear and tear you put on your car ( I got new tyres and breaks as often as a taxi man).
The job is a lot easier now. With Google maps and eircodes.
I used to have to find every house the old fashioned way, a old school map. Then finding a house name in the dark on a busy road was dangerous. Then there was the reversing back down long driveways in the dark. Dogs were always an issue(I’m a huge dog guy), you’re a stranger arriving at night, carrying food, dogs were all over you always.
You get a lot of folks taking the piss too. Groups of young people trying to split a bill, or people asking for lifts in the car or to pick them up booze.
I’m sure its different now. But in my day it was all cash. Prepaid orders were rare. So I was a walking calculator/cash register.
I have to mentally come up with the right change figure on the spot all while your dog is chewing my leg. (Order is €16.75 customer tells you to take €1.50 for yourself and hands you a €50……you’ve got 3 seconds to tell her her change number before you look stupid).
If it’s busy, often is, you might be given 5 orders at once. You need to take in all the addresses, visualise where they are and mentally build the most efficient route/loop that will bring to back to the restaurant. This route will also have to account for who orders first.
By the end I had encyclopaedic knowledge of the name of every road, every estate, every house name in the area, every traffic light sequence. so I was fast, because fast meant more money.
On the tipping. I never once expected a tip. But if there was no tips I wouldn’t have done the job, I would have quit.
Tipping was very common, maybe 3/4 people tipped. Usually between €0.50 and €2.
I worked for the tips, just like a waiter, I smiled, I was polite, I’d joke or compliment something or ask how they were, I’d pet the dog and so on.
No days since Covid distancing and prepaid orders I imagine it’s a totally different job. Much more impersonal I’d guess with no tips, who even has cash anymore. My drivers now days are waving goodbye as I get to the door holding their tip. They don’t even expect it anymore.
Asking for or expecting a tip shouldn’t be done it’s a jerk move. But not tipping out of protest or principle isn’t the political move you think it is.
Tipping motivated me to be better and care more about my job.
Cheeky fucker.
I tip for above average service.
Arriving at my door with the food I ordered after paying a delivery charge is NOT above average service.
We seem to be importing more and more of the shittier aspects of American culture with tipping being one of them.
Tips are always at the discretion of the customer.
And I worked for decades in jobs that usually “expected” tips.
Asks for a tip before sitting down and realising the food is half cold and they forgot the chicken tenders and dip.
The absolute nerve.
During the recession my Dad lost his job and he picked up a gig delivering for Domino’s. He wasn’t able to use Google maps at the time so I spent many of the first weeks helping him out. He was only getting 1.50 a delivery and was lucky to get 7 deliveries done in an hour due to traffic and the wide delivery area. The driving that he did ended up ruining his car and cost a fortune to fix. Never was fixed right though.
We often delivered to very big three story homes and never once was tipped. Since then I’ve always tried to tip the driver, even if it’s only a euro I have in the wallet I’ll always try to give something.
Delivery driver here. He’s a cheeky git whoever he was. I don’t make much in tips but that’s the culture here. It’s probably his only job. Too many people trying to Americanise it.
Former delivery driver here, would never ask anyone for a tip, if it’s given you say thank you with a smile. But a simple thank you for dropping the delivery off from the customer is enough. So many ignorant cunts about though who didn’t speak a word at the door
Tipping is such an American thing. I hate the fact that it’s taken hold here. In America, companies are allowed to paid employees such as waiting staff 1-2 dollars an hour. These employees are subsidized by tips. It’s so capitalist. Ordinary people are subsidizing businesses.
They are already paying over the odds for the food, then have to pay extra for the service, which is why they paid so much for the food in the first place. Food in America costs less anyway. So if you’re paying 10% it’s not too much.
It’s all wrong for European countries. First of all, we have a minimum wage so the staff aren’t exploited. An Irish person working full time earns about 22,000 euro. While not a windfall, it’s better than the states. The food here is much more expensive than in the US so paying 10-20% is a lot.
When I graduated college, I had this conversation with an American friend who was living here. She tipped everyone. I explained that I resented having to tip because the people serving me were earning more than me, so I didn’t want to subsidize their income.
Yeah, fuck that. They’ve jacked the prices up so much and stuck on so many extra charges that a delivery is a very rare treat these days.
I tip when I pay in cash and the change is 2 or 3 euro I say they can keep it but, if they asked for a tip it would annoy me quite a bit.
Please don’t let tipping become the norm here
It’s absolute bullshit for employers to pay the minimum knowing plenty of people will give a tip.
Anyone asking me for a tip is straight up not getting one .
We got a Chinese delivered. Spent 9 euro on delivery.. guy was an hour late and I took my food.. he then said I had to give him an extra 3 euro for delivery.. like why?!! I paid the delivery charge..
Tips are earned by adding value to the service. How can a delivery driver add value walking from his/her moped to your door?
Got a delivery a few years ago and it was missing my milkshake. Happened to end up in college with the delivery guy a few weeks later and he told me laughing one day that he’d take people’s drinks/milkshakes sometimes if he was thirsty and just say the place forgot to put it in.
Nothing to do with this story but it just reminded me. Fuck that guy
I did pizza deliveries for Apache back 14/15 years ago picking up extra shifts as I was kitchen staff normally. Drivers got €4 an hour and €2 per delivery they did, which is fine running 20/30 minute round trip from the restaurant but we relied on tips going further. Had one family that lived waaaaaay out the country, outside the delivery radius but when they rang in they always said they’d throw €10 to the driver if we’d do it…which we always did.
This changed though they can’t get away with paying drivers like that anymore I believe, so delivery costs are built into the order. I still tip if they’ve come 10/15 minutes from the next town from the chinese, but the chipper that’s a 2 minute drive away gets no tip.
I’d tip the odd time but definitely wouldn’t expect them to ever ask! How exactly did they even phrase it?
As someone who’s been doing delivery work the past few months, we dont expect a tip. A tip is ALWAYS welcomed, but not expected. I get a flat rate pay and make x amount per delivery. But, if you do tip online, youll more than likely get your food quicker because we’ll prioritise you. And if you tip with cash, you will be remembered for next time.
If someone wants to give a tip then fair play to them, but a driver asking for it is mental.
I work for Just Eat and Deliveroo as a car driver. I don’t feel entitled to tips, would never ask for one, and am always grateful when I receive them. I always tip if I order a delivery. I’ve been doing it for 3 years as a side gig, recently went full time due to redundancy from my day job.
If you don’t want to tip, fair enough. But you’re not taking any sort of moral high ground by doing so while continuing to use the delivery services. If you are saying “people should stop working for them if they don’t pay enough”, then you most likely expect that this would force delivery companies to raise their wages. The thing is that this additional cost will of course be passed on to the consumer anyway in the form of higher delivery charges. So it’s something of a moot point.
There are a few things most people don’t think about when discussing this job.
We are self employed contractors with absolutely no legal rights, holiday entitlements, sick pay, any sort of benefits like health insurance etc.
Business insurance is mandatory and is paid by the hour. My own costs €2.50 per hour, 1 hour minimum. There is no insurer in Ireland who offers annual policies for fast food delivery, the only company who will cover you charge by the hour. They have a monopoly and charge as such. No insurance linked to your just eat or deliveroo account = no work.
If I accept an order paying €5 on a Tuesday night, deliveroo or just eat alert the insurer that I’m working automatically and they charge me €2.50 on the spot. If I don’t get another order in that hour (very common) tough sh1t.
There is a significant level of risk involved in the job. We spend a lot of time on and around roads which are dangerous in general. Walking in dodgy areas at night, gangs of teenagers, dogs, junkies roaming the city centre are all hazards. I’ve also fallen on my arse a few times due to slippery surfaces and bad lighting – no sick pay and I may end up out of work for a day or two as I’ve messed up my knee or whatever. I’ve had a handful of incidents with people trying to steal from me while on the job, and a couple of dog bites also. No road accidents for me yet but it’s very common as we spend so much time on the road.
We only get paid by the delivery. If I’m standing around waiting for your Mcdonalds for 30 minutes on a busy Saturday night I’m losing precious time during a busy period where I should by rights be earning my wages.
Fuel, vehicle maintenance (which adds up from lots of urban start-stop driving), any equipment you need, is all at your own expense also.
During covid lockdowns I made decent money as the roads were empty which sped everything up.
Now it’s back to being a grind for not great money, you’d just about scrape by off it full time, partly thanks to generous tippers.
If people didn’t tip, there’d be almost no one willing to do that job as you’d make a pittance. Then I suppose the complaints would instead be that it’s impossible to get food delivered quickly. Or the delivery fee would be increased so that drivers can be paid more.
I massively dislike how tipping culture is sneaking it’s way into Ireland. I refuse to be told to tip.
Tipping becomes the excuse for employers to underpay their staff. Fuck that noise.
The only tipper there should be in Ireland is for a bohdrán.