Whether or not she committed a crime, she should be in Britain. Whether that’s free in Britain or in a British jail, it is not right, indeed it is slightly frightening that the British government is able to unilaterally strip a British citizen of their citizenship, leaving them with no other citizenship, because they *might* have committed a crime – without having been duly convicted in a court of law.
If this is allowed to stand there is no reason why the British government couldn’t strip you, yes, you, of your citizenship when you happen to be overseas.
Not going to even lie old Begum has had a bit of a blow up. Stick her on I’m a celebrity to earn back her citizenship
If a fifteen year old can’t consent to sex, how can they consent to join a terrorist organisation?
Some comments on this post are mental, some people really need to have their houses raided.
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When I was 15 an act of rebellion was sneaking some beers, or staying out too late.
I NEVER JOINED ISIS.
MI5 knew means they didn’t stop her? They facilitated her?
IDGAF about Begum, but if you don’t think this or future governments will misuse the precedent that they can unilaterally make someone stateless against international law, I’ve got a marina in Arizona to sell you.
For the cooler heads, this isn’t about her, it’s about breaking Britain’s growing pattern of disrespect for the rule of law, domestic or international.
Love how the fact that she was trafficked to Syria by an allied intelligence asset has just disappeared from the discourse and this is what we get reported instead.
Stop letting the woke crowd dictate the law.
Bringing a terrorist back is a bad idea, what happens when there’s blood on your hands?
She made her bed, let her rot in it.
She is a Bangladeshi problem now. She can write her book and retire somewhere compatable to her view, maybe Indonesia and live in a villa off her royalties.
Ms Begum was born in the UK, at least one of her parents is a Bangladeshi citizen by birth. Therefore, according to Section 5 of the Citizenship Act 1951 and Rule 9 of the Bangladesh Citizenship Rules 1952 , Ms Begum is ‘a citizen of Bangladesh by descent’. Her citizenship is not contingent upon whether she holds a Bangladeshi passport or any other proof of citizenship or whether she has submitted any application for the same, or whether she has ever visited Bangladesh. It is evident from the provisions above that holding a passport or a proof of citizenship or applying for the same or even visiting Bangladesh has no impact on the legal fact of citizenship.
Teenagers full of high ideals and desires to change the world are the stuff of legend. They were probably groomed insofar as some older woman flattered and exploited their politically naïve points of view, which led them to the mess they are in now. Sultana is believed to have been killed in an airstrike, Abase and Begum were in touch with each other until recently and both have stated that “It wasn’t what [they] thought it would be.” Surely the complaint of every adolescent hot-head, including myself, since the dawn of time!
Do I think she’s a threat? No idea – if she feels wronged, she very well may be. If she feels she f**ked up and takes full responsibility, then no.
This comment section is wild. Also can’t tell why are people so gullible she didn’t run off to join a band it was a fucking terrorist organisation that the UK was currently at war with.
Shamima Begum should never have had her British Citizenship revoked.
She should have been allowed to return to our country.
Where she should be arrested on terrorism related charges.
Then tried in court.
“British nationals suspected of terrorism should be arrested and tried in British courts” should not be a controversial statement.
Who are these bleeding hearts who are supporting her return ?
We’ll said MI5, Begum is a terrorist and needs to be barred for life from coming back to the UK. She made her bed when she joined ISIS, now lie in it.
Despite what people think, the Supreme Court and the secret service don’t want her here.
She has been banned from the UK and very unlikely she will return with the United Nations special rapporteur on Counter-Terrorism supporting the decision of the courts.
I’d not feel comfortable with anyone returning from a terrorist organisation and getting let of lightly like some of the above have.
Yes people make stupid mistakes when they’re young but running away & joining ISIS is more than just a stupid mistake, how the fuck are people defending her?
One of the only things I agree with that the tories have done. Let her stay where she is, we don’t want her back here.
She’s a traitor and a terrorist. Hope she stays out.
Around the time of 9/11, it actually may have been that summer, me and a bunch of kids attended an Islamic school for about 2 hrs everyday and had been going to this play for years. We had plenty of teachers come and go… But that summer we had a Pakistani bloke come in… he used to us how to fight, purchased water guns for us to practice shooting, marching and played tapes asking us to go fight in a holy war against Christians…
It’s weird thinking back because we did not think much of it… I just felt… Well that’s bloody odd and being kids we just all laughed in private at how ridiculous it was. The idea that he was training us to be terrorists never even crossed any of our minds. It was only until after 9/11, he actually vanished not long afterwards, did a few of us go.. Ohhhhhh! We had no idea that sort of thing was actually real if you know what I mean, if we were aware of terrorism… I believe a few of us would have said something to the police, and not thought he was just some crazy dude taking the quran literally.
We were between the ages of 9-16.
None of us turned into terrorists.
As far as I am concerned, it’s what you get for going to join fucking ISIS. She can rot in hell out there.
When I was 15 I was arrested and treated like an adult. She knew what she was doing. Shes trying to play every card she can to come back. Anyone who joins the most horrible of organisations like that should never be allowed back. And if they are they should never be trusted and thrown in jail. She said the Manchester bombing was justified (when she was an adult) and the beheadings of those poor people. She carried an AK-47 about to be a morality officer. Nah fuck her and anyone like her. Go ask the victims families what they think. Jail or fuck off and live in the mess you created.
Honestly cannot believe these comments. Number of people defending this person is absolutely shocking.
Bet the people defending her haven’t had people close to them injured or killed in incidents like the Birmingham bombing, “It’s okay, we all go a little terrorist sometimes. It happens.” No, we do not forgive this behaviour.
She was old enough to know that terrorism is bad and killing people is bad but joined the organisation anyway.
If a 15 year old in London joined a gang at age 15 you’d have said get him/her off the streets and in jail.
She doesn’t need to go to court, she joined Isis. She lost her citizenship? Yeah that’s called consequence. “It’s illegal” aye so is fucking joining a group of terrorists, she wasn’t bothered then was she 😂
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Pretty sure a lot of criminal knew what they were doing, doesn’t mean we don’t make then stand trial.
It’s incredible that to this day we hold Jamie Bulgers killers – who were two nine year olds – fully responsible for butchering and torturing a child.
Yet this bitch goes over there at 15 – yes, on paper a victim of trafficking – but also fully proud and aware of what she was doing and people pull the child card!? Do me a lemon.
She gained a reputation for being a strict, armed part of the morality police regarding women’s dress codes, and recruited women, and stitched suicide bomb vests. She was not beaten, or held prisoner whilst there. She defended the Manchester bombings until it backfired on her, and now she dresses like a white girl in Starbucks and pretends she never would’ve gone.
Fuck her.
If it was a 15 year old boy who joined ISIS, no one would want him back. People are only painting her as an innocent little victim because she’s a woman. She made her bed. Time to lie in it.
I know teenagers make mistakes, but teenage mistakes involve skipping school or doing drugs, not JOINING A TERRORIST ORGANISATION.
“But she was a teenager”, most teenagers get blackout drunk and throw up on their moms prized carpet. Joining a murder cult who livestreams beheadings on Facebook isn’t an accident.
At the age of 15, in year 10 in secondary school – I knew it was wrong to join terrorist organisations that behead people – idk about you.
This wasn’t a mistake. You know right from wrong at that age.
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Whether or not she committed a crime, she should be in Britain. Whether that’s free in Britain or in a British jail, it is not right, indeed it is slightly frightening that the British government is able to unilaterally strip a British citizen of their citizenship, leaving them with no other citizenship, because they *might* have committed a crime – without having been duly convicted in a court of law.
If this is allowed to stand there is no reason why the British government couldn’t strip you, yes, you, of your citizenship when you happen to be overseas.
Not going to even lie old Begum has had a bit of a blow up. Stick her on I’m a celebrity to earn back her citizenship
If a fifteen year old can’t consent to sex, how can they consent to join a terrorist organisation?
Some comments on this post are mental, some people really need to have their houses raided.
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When I was 15 an act of rebellion was sneaking some beers, or staying out too late.
I NEVER JOINED ISIS.
MI5 knew means they didn’t stop her? They facilitated her?
IDGAF about Begum, but if you don’t think this or future governments will misuse the precedent that they can unilaterally make someone stateless against international law, I’ve got a marina in Arizona to sell you.
For the cooler heads, this isn’t about her, it’s about breaking Britain’s growing pattern of disrespect for the rule of law, domestic or international.
Love how the fact that she was trafficked to Syria by an allied intelligence asset has just disappeared from the discourse and this is what we get reported instead.
Stop letting the woke crowd dictate the law.
Bringing a terrorist back is a bad idea, what happens when there’s blood on your hands?
She made her bed, let her rot in it.
She is a Bangladeshi problem now. She can write her book and retire somewhere compatable to her view, maybe Indonesia and live in a villa off her royalties.
Ms Begum was born in the UK, at least one of her parents is a Bangladeshi citizen by birth. Therefore, according to Section 5 of the Citizenship Act 1951 and Rule 9 of the Bangladesh Citizenship Rules 1952 , Ms Begum is ‘a citizen of Bangladesh by descent’. Her citizenship is not contingent upon whether she holds a Bangladeshi passport or any other proof of citizenship or whether she has submitted any application for the same, or whether she has ever visited Bangladesh. It is evident from the provisions above that holding a passport or a proof of citizenship or applying for the same or even visiting Bangladesh has no impact on the legal fact of citizenship.
Teenagers full of high ideals and desires to change the world are the stuff of legend. They were probably groomed insofar as some older woman flattered and exploited their politically naïve points of view, which led them to the mess they are in now. Sultana is believed to have been killed in an airstrike, Abase and Begum were in touch with each other until recently and both have stated that “It wasn’t what [they] thought it would be.” Surely the complaint of every adolescent hot-head, including myself, since the dawn of time!
Do I think she’s a threat? No idea – if she feels wronged, she very well may be. If she feels she f**ked up and takes full responsibility, then no.
Interesting article – Guardian 2019
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/14/shamima-begum-friends-kadiza-sultana-amira-abase-joined-isis-syria
This comment section is wild. Also can’t tell why are people so gullible she didn’t run off to join a band it was a fucking terrorist organisation that the UK was currently at war with.
Shamima Begum should never have had her British Citizenship revoked.
She should have been allowed to return to our country.
Where she should be arrested on terrorism related charges.
Then tried in court.
“British nationals suspected of terrorism should be arrested and tried in British courts” should not be a controversial statement.
Who are these bleeding hearts who are supporting her return ?
We’ll said MI5, Begum is a terrorist and needs to be barred for life from coming back to the UK. She made her bed when she joined ISIS, now lie in it.
Despite what people think, the Supreme Court and the secret service don’t want her here.
She has been banned from the UK and very unlikely she will return with the United Nations special rapporteur on Counter-Terrorism supporting the decision of the courts.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brides_of_the_Islamic_State](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brides_of_the_Islamic_State)
I’d not feel comfortable with anyone returning from a terrorist organisation and getting let of lightly like some of the above have.
Yes people make stupid mistakes when they’re young but running away & joining ISIS is more than just a stupid mistake, how the fuck are people defending her?
One of the only things I agree with that the tories have done. Let her stay where she is, we don’t want her back here.
She’s a traitor and a terrorist. Hope she stays out.
Around the time of 9/11, it actually may have been that summer, me and a bunch of kids attended an Islamic school for about 2 hrs everyday and had been going to this play for years. We had plenty of teachers come and go… But that summer we had a Pakistani bloke come in… he used to us how to fight, purchased water guns for us to practice shooting, marching and played tapes asking us to go fight in a holy war against Christians…
It’s weird thinking back because we did not think much of it… I just felt… Well that’s bloody odd and being kids we just all laughed in private at how ridiculous it was. The idea that he was training us to be terrorists never even crossed any of our minds. It was only until after 9/11, he actually vanished not long afterwards, did a few of us go.. Ohhhhhh! We had no idea that sort of thing was actually real if you know what I mean, if we were aware of terrorism… I believe a few of us would have said something to the police, and not thought he was just some crazy dude taking the quran literally.
We were between the ages of 9-16.
None of us turned into terrorists.
As far as I am concerned, it’s what you get for going to join fucking ISIS. She can rot in hell out there.
When I was 15 I was arrested and treated like an adult. She knew what she was doing. Shes trying to play every card she can to come back. Anyone who joins the most horrible of organisations like that should never be allowed back. And if they are they should never be trusted and thrown in jail. She said the Manchester bombing was justified (when she was an adult) and the beheadings of those poor people. She carried an AK-47 about to be a morality officer. Nah fuck her and anyone like her. Go ask the victims families what they think. Jail or fuck off and live in the mess you created.
Honestly cannot believe these comments. Number of people defending this person is absolutely shocking.
Bet the people defending her haven’t had people close to them injured or killed in incidents like the Birmingham bombing, “It’s okay, we all go a little terrorist sometimes. It happens.” No, we do not forgive this behaviour.
She was old enough to know that terrorism is bad and killing people is bad but joined the organisation anyway.
If a 15 year old in London joined a gang at age 15 you’d have said get him/her off the streets and in jail.
She doesn’t need to go to court, she joined Isis. She lost her citizenship? Yeah that’s called consequence. “It’s illegal” aye so is fucking joining a group of terrorists, she wasn’t bothered then was she 😂
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Pretty sure a lot of criminal knew what they were doing, doesn’t mean we don’t make then stand trial.
It’s incredible that to this day we hold Jamie Bulgers killers – who were two nine year olds – fully responsible for butchering and torturing a child.
Yet this bitch goes over there at 15 – yes, on paper a victim of trafficking – but also fully proud and aware of what she was doing and people pull the child card!? Do me a lemon.
She gained a reputation for being a strict, armed part of the morality police regarding women’s dress codes, and recruited women, and stitched suicide bomb vests. She was not beaten, or held prisoner whilst there. She defended the Manchester bombings until it backfired on her, and now she dresses like a white girl in Starbucks and pretends she never would’ve gone.
Fuck her.
If it was a 15 year old boy who joined ISIS, no one would want him back. People are only painting her as an innocent little victim because she’s a woman. She made her bed. Time to lie in it.
I know teenagers make mistakes, but teenage mistakes involve skipping school or doing drugs, not JOINING A TERRORIST ORGANISATION.
“But she was a teenager”, most teenagers get blackout drunk and throw up on their moms prized carpet. Joining a murder cult who livestreams beheadings on Facebook isn’t an accident.
At the age of 15, in year 10 in secondary school – I knew it was wrong to join terrorist organisations that behead people – idk about you.
This wasn’t a mistake. You know right from wrong at that age.