Got to love the people that don’t believe in climate change but still want money from the government to mitigate it’s impact.
Realistically anyone in the cautious or doubtful bracket can’t comment on this sub Reddit without getting abused or down voted to oblivion.
Honestly, I’ve stopped looking at climage change news and articles. I find the unmitigated doom too depressing – I genuinely worry about it. I just try and get on with it and do my bit, and hope to fuck some smart people out there can pull our arses from the fire.
I’d say cautious. I won’t be buying a house in an area prone to flooding, but I’m not concerned in the sense that I’m thinking about my own personal wellbeing being impacted, and I don’t have kids. So yeah, cautious.
Love the electric car one. Basically everyone wants to government to shell out for them to have nice new cars that we can’t afford.
The real deal would be to just pump money into public transport and heavily subsidise it so it’s better than driving.
Electric cars seem like the answer to “how do we combat climate change in a way that’s luxurious and fancy”. They inevitably produce emissions to make, aren’t going to be running on renewables to run, and deplete finite lithium.
I’m not against electric cars at all. Genuinely anyone buying new should be buying one. If you’re buying a new car and it’s a full ICE then that’s ridiculous (unless its a commercial). But the government subsidising them is lunacy. Anyone currently driving an ICE shouldn’t feel under pressure to change to to an electric vehicle unless they’re buying new.
I worry that all of our climate policy will be sticks instead of carrots – or in the case of “grants” they’ll end up as sticks disguised as carrots (carbon taxes leading to increased energy costs, grants to insulate homes leading to increases in supplier/installer costs, homeowner gains nothing but a big bill).
There’s no “Nihilistic and prepping the Mad Max war rig” option.
I believe climate change is happening and I believe it’s something that needs addressed in the short term.
I don’t think EVs are the answer right now. Firstly, if everyone was to swap their petrol or diesel car for an EV, the electricity network infrastructure would not be capable of coping with that amount of vehicles needing charged. Secondly, there are not enough changing point around the country to support EVs. Thirdly, for those living in apartments, with no personal parking spot or garage, how practical would it be for them to find somewhere to park and charge near their home?
Public transport infrastructure needs real investment in this country, Rural Ireland especially. I’ve checked timetables for a couple of friends wanting to travel from our place in Donegal to Dublin Airport using the bus service. 10hrs on the day they wanted to travel, if they used nothing but buses. I ended up giving them a lift to the bus station, saved them hours of screwing around. Dublin Airport isn’t much better, no train connections, buses are slow to get to the city center and traffic can be an absolute disaster.
The government have been extremely slow on the uptake of offshore wind, to the point were equinor just scrapped plans on a 2 or 3bn offshore windfarm. IIRC, they were the second energy giant to pull the pin because of the snail’s pace of approval and granting of offshore licences. We should be at the cutting edge of this type of industry, given the amount of wind and coast that we have. If the powers that be had 2 brain cells to rub together, we’d have a few thousand turbines off the coast, not 7, jointly owned by the state and we’d be selling the excess to the European grid.
If you’re not alarmed, you’re misinformed
Why are women so much more likely to be alarmist about the issue ?
I’d put myself into the ‘cautious’ bracket but just barely.
It would be nice if 100 companies didn’t produce 71% of the worlds pollution.
Cautious.
Carbon’s not the boogeyman those looking to tax it are making it out to be but we’re in for some very rough changes to civilization over the coming years due to sea rise and changing growing climates. Fix the oceans fix the carbon problem.
We’re in a fairly good position here to eliminate a lot of our unnecessary emissions but we’re fairly unfortunate on the resource front for engineering our way out of our current fossil fuel use. Solving the methane problems with our cows seems fairly straightforward from what I’ve seen. Introducing a small amount of seaweed to the diet cut methane by 82% in the last study I’ve seen but we definitely need to develop that industry further our beef and dairy is too important.
Run off is the killer of the sea’s I think there’s 25 or so towns that let raw sewage out into their rivers and the sea so that’s an immediate problem and then we’ll need to rework our agriculture fertilization and build up the plant life around our waterways to reduce nitrogen run off.
We are complicit in the fast fashion industry that is decimating the water and oceans of South East Asia but the run off from the pig industries in the US and China are so far beyond anything we could ever possibly emit even if we were trying.
I think “apathetic” would best describe me. With all the other things going on in my life, I quite frankly don’t really care all that much. I’ll do my bit and hope governments can pull the finger out to do something but I’m not going out of my way to change my behaviour in any sense.
Nice reminder that the people around me in real life are in the 3% minority, and even with that, they’re only in the 49% of the 3% of doubtful
We banned plastic straws. That’s what we did. Literally and metaphorically. We are 30 years to late to make any meaningful impact now. Weather will go crazy in the future and we can do nothing that won’t be nullified by assholes outside our reach. Or cruise ships. People will flee the zones being hit the worst and there will be wars about it. We all die. Then the planet has a chance to heal. We fucked up.
Worried but I also refuse to believe that me turning down my shower temperature or diligently separating recycling or “turning the dial down” means more than Coco Cola switching to glass bottles or the likes of Haribo having small plastic packs of sweets in bigger packs that come in a bigger plastic pack.
Turn the dial down? Go fuck yourself and make better lo ger lasting products that don’t take up half a landfill.
Rant over
Frustrated at the double standards, people driving around in brand new electric cars in denial about the piles of parcels amazon just delivered.
No one wants to admit we’re just shifting the pollution around. The sending of ‘recycling’ to china comes to mind
We’re never gonna succeed if we only see part of the problem
Where’s the “terrified” category?
Missing one. Resigned. To fact that we’re totally fcked.
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Got to love the people that don’t believe in climate change but still want money from the government to mitigate it’s impact.
Realistically anyone in the cautious or doubtful bracket can’t comment on this sub Reddit without getting abused or down voted to oblivion.
Honestly, I’ve stopped looking at climage change news and articles. I find the unmitigated doom too depressing – I genuinely worry about it. I just try and get on with it and do my bit, and hope to fuck some smart people out there can pull our arses from the fire.
I’d say cautious. I won’t be buying a house in an area prone to flooding, but I’m not concerned in the sense that I’m thinking about my own personal wellbeing being impacted, and I don’t have kids. So yeah, cautious.
Love the electric car one. Basically everyone wants to government to shell out for them to have nice new cars that we can’t afford.
The real deal would be to just pump money into public transport and heavily subsidise it so it’s better than driving.
Electric cars seem like the answer to “how do we combat climate change in a way that’s luxurious and fancy”. They inevitably produce emissions to make, aren’t going to be running on renewables to run, and deplete finite lithium.
I’m not against electric cars at all. Genuinely anyone buying new should be buying one. If you’re buying a new car and it’s a full ICE then that’s ridiculous (unless its a commercial). But the government subsidising them is lunacy. Anyone currently driving an ICE shouldn’t feel under pressure to change to to an electric vehicle unless they’re buying new.
I worry that all of our climate policy will be sticks instead of carrots – or in the case of “grants” they’ll end up as sticks disguised as carrots (carbon taxes leading to increased energy costs, grants to insulate homes leading to increases in supplier/installer costs, homeowner gains nothing but a big bill).
There’s no “Nihilistic and prepping the Mad Max war rig” option.
I believe climate change is happening and I believe it’s something that needs addressed in the short term.
I don’t think EVs are the answer right now. Firstly, if everyone was to swap their petrol or diesel car for an EV, the electricity network infrastructure would not be capable of coping with that amount of vehicles needing charged. Secondly, there are not enough changing point around the country to support EVs. Thirdly, for those living in apartments, with no personal parking spot or garage, how practical would it be for them to find somewhere to park and charge near their home?
Public transport infrastructure needs real investment in this country, Rural Ireland especially. I’ve checked timetables for a couple of friends wanting to travel from our place in Donegal to Dublin Airport using the bus service. 10hrs on the day they wanted to travel, if they used nothing but buses. I ended up giving them a lift to the bus station, saved them hours of screwing around. Dublin Airport isn’t much better, no train connections, buses are slow to get to the city center and traffic can be an absolute disaster.
The government have been extremely slow on the uptake of offshore wind, to the point were equinor just scrapped plans on a 2 or 3bn offshore windfarm. IIRC, they were the second energy giant to pull the pin because of the snail’s pace of approval and granting of offshore licences. We should be at the cutting edge of this type of industry, given the amount of wind and coast that we have. If the powers that be had 2 brain cells to rub together, we’d have a few thousand turbines off the coast, not 7, jointly owned by the state and we’d be selling the excess to the European grid.
If you’re not alarmed, you’re misinformed
Why are women so much more likely to be alarmist about the issue ?
I’d put myself into the ‘cautious’ bracket but just barely.
It would be nice if 100 companies didn’t produce 71% of the worlds pollution.
Cautious.
Carbon’s not the boogeyman those looking to tax it are making it out to be but we’re in for some very rough changes to civilization over the coming years due to sea rise and changing growing climates. Fix the oceans fix the carbon problem.
We’re in a fairly good position here to eliminate a lot of our unnecessary emissions but we’re fairly unfortunate on the resource front for engineering our way out of our current fossil fuel use. Solving the methane problems with our cows seems fairly straightforward from what I’ve seen. Introducing a small amount of seaweed to the diet cut methane by 82% in the last study I’ve seen but we definitely need to develop that industry further our beef and dairy is too important.
Run off is the killer of the sea’s I think there’s 25 or so towns that let raw sewage out into their rivers and the sea so that’s an immediate problem and then we’ll need to rework our agriculture fertilization and build up the plant life around our waterways to reduce nitrogen run off.
We are complicit in the fast fashion industry that is decimating the water and oceans of South East Asia but the run off from the pig industries in the US and China are so far beyond anything we could ever possibly emit even if we were trying.
I think “apathetic” would best describe me. With all the other things going on in my life, I quite frankly don’t really care all that much. I’ll do my bit and hope governments can pull the finger out to do something but I’m not going out of my way to change my behaviour in any sense.
Nice reminder that the people around me in real life are in the 3% minority, and even with that, they’re only in the 49% of the 3% of doubtful
We banned plastic straws. That’s what we did. Literally and metaphorically. We are 30 years to late to make any meaningful impact now. Weather will go crazy in the future and we can do nothing that won’t be nullified by assholes outside our reach. Or cruise ships. People will flee the zones being hit the worst and there will be wars about it. We all die. Then the planet has a chance to heal. We fucked up.
Worried but I also refuse to believe that me turning down my shower temperature or diligently separating recycling or “turning the dial down” means more than Coco Cola switching to glass bottles or the likes of Haribo having small plastic packs of sweets in bigger packs that come in a bigger plastic pack.
Turn the dial down? Go fuck yourself and make better lo ger lasting products that don’t take up half a landfill.
Rant over
Frustrated at the double standards, people driving around in brand new electric cars in denial about the piles of parcels amazon just delivered.
No one wants to admit we’re just shifting the pollution around. The sending of ‘recycling’ to china comes to mind
We’re never gonna succeed if we only see part of the problem
Where’s the “terrified” category?
Missing one. Resigned. To fact that we’re totally fcked.
None of the above