Labour must make sure no one forgets the Tories’ Brexit disaster. More and more people are realising that Brexit is the greatest act of economic self-harm in living memory.

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  2. Yeah good luck with that. Labour are shit-scared to even talk about it, hilariously giant polka-dotted elephant in the room that it is.

  3. If Labour wishes to make sure no one forgets the Tory’s Brexit disaster, maybe they should stop being tacitly complicit with Tory policy and actually ignore the red wall racists they are so desperately trying to court.

    Why the fuck is he still perpetuating the myth that it is in any way possible to “make Brexit work”?

  4. Labour offered a renegotiation of the Brexit deal

    Then a 2nd referendum of new deal Vs cancel the entire thing.

    The result of that was an absolute beating in the 2019 GE. Boris fucking Johnson got an 80 seat majority.

    You all wonder why Labour isn’t touching Brexit with a barge pole? Because the last time they did, they got the shit kicked out of them by the voting public.

    It’s going to be at least a decade before any party is going to criticise Brexit. If you’re angry about that, blame the public.

  5. There are many things I hate them for now. I was never so partisan as I am right now. The ideology of austerity crushed us a bt more every year for a decade, but this year has been absolutely soul destroying. This winter will be long and cold. I’m glad my kid has grown up and is doing quite well, because if I had him small right now, it would be hard not feel a huge sense of failure. Besides the cold, my cupboards will be mostly empty. My heart goes out to people with little’uns right now because I can’t afford even decent present for my kid, and I’m breaking my heart just thinking about xmas morning. How my life got this hard to endure? Tory economic insanity. I was happier when I had to walk 8 miles back and forth to work in the winter, because that payed for a nice xmas for us. I probably won’t get out of bed this year. I fucking hate this government.

  7. And I voted for it! Cos I’m stupid. I just didn’t like the idea of unelected officials ruling over me.
    I appreciate the irony of the last 3 prime ministers…

    Sorry everyone.

  10. Brexit is when I realised the majority of the United Kingdom are morons, almost 30% of them didn’t vote and the majority of the ones which did, voted to leave.

    The UK is now facing the economic uncertainty any tiny island with little to no natural resources, manufacturing capabilities, or exportable goods would face.

    Being part of the European Union meant we were part of the largest single economy in the world and were able to have a say in the way the world traded with us. Instead we decided it would be best if we left the single most powerful economic entity in the world and now have how we trade dictated to us by other nations.

  11. Trouble is the propaganda is strong. You had car workers who sold 90% of their product to the EU voting Brexit. Then when they got laid off denying it was anything to do with the EU.

    Fishermen who sold over half their haul to the EU thinking they were going to be better off if we left. Fishermen who complained about the French fishermen when it was their own fathers and grandfathers who sold the quotas to French firms leaving their own families without a business.

    But it was the EU’s fault. That’s some next level brainwashing.

  12. But Prime Minister just said everyone is reaping the benefits now and the border control is back….Did he lied to me…? Nah, probably, just my mind making tricks.

  14. Brexit battlegrounds are where the Tories are strong

    0 strategic reason to play into their hands come 2024. 2029 when most Boomers are worm food, maybe, but not today

  17. The deal has a 5 year renegotiation clause, it must be spoken about continuously as the next government will have the chance to fix this shit.

  18. Brexit is the biggest disaster in UK history.

    However, it is not just the Tories’ fault.

    Labour played a part in building the public’s anti EU sentiment. Even though though they didn’t realise it, Labour were the driving force behind the growth in popularity behind the BNP and then UKIP because of their naive anti-immigration stance. Eg Gordon Brown’s “Bigote comment”. It alienated the public into the arms of the anti-immigration parties.

    UKIP played a massive role in converting anti-immigration sentiments into anti-EU sentiments via various lies that leaving the EU will reduce immigration to the UK. They stole the BNP electorate using immigration and a slightly more “respectable” face.

    However, Labour hasn’t been a consistent pro-EU force. It drove the public into the arms of the BNP/UKIP and provided a poor anti-Brexit argument during the referendum.

    We need a strong anti-Brexit party, but Brexit shouldn’t be politicised into a pro-Labour argument

  19. Labour lead to be a credible party with good policy that’s based on sound research where the numbers add up & get support for big business or a few big names. Previously I wasn’t convinced their policy was financially viable

    Mud slinging against the tories is not going to win an election. Reality is Corbyn couldn’t beat Boris who is a massive car crash. Irrespective of the media campaign against him – they should of preempted this so labour could win. But they didn’t & couldn’t change the perception.

    I don’t think people trusted labour with the finances tbh in addition to the smear campaign that undermined labour

    Starmer doesn’t seem to of made much headway considering the Tory in fighting etc

    Brexit is a hot potatoe & old news. It was a huge mistake > part company with a massive stable trading partner. Where are the supposed huge new trade agreements that were promised as the next chapter …

    Present economy needs immigration … genius move by brexit voters. Moan moan but they like their cheap cleaners & cheap labour

    Cut off the hand that feeds you

  21. > Baroness Brown of Cambridge, Julia King, who chairs the House of Lords Science and Technology Committee told Sky News: “I think we will see a [brain drain](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/eu-research-funding-horizon-europe-b2199206.html) of our brightest talents going overseas,” adding the consequence will be “significant”.

    Another Brexit “Win” from the people that brought you :

    “A trade deal with the EU could be sorted out in an afternoon over a cup of coffee”

    And:

    “‘we’d hold all the cards”

    And:

    “There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside”

    Whereas what has actually happened is that we have become weaker economically, weaker politically, weaker culturally, and weaker scientifically.

    Maybe there is a word for people who agitate for this much harm to come to their own country.

    David Lammy was, of course, 100% right in his understanding of [what Brexit meant](https://hansard.parliament.uk/search/MemberContributions?memberId=206&startDate=2019-01-10&endDate=2019-01-10&type=Spoken&outputType=List&partial=False).

  22. I don’t even blame the Brexit voters in the working class areas of the country that voted for it. They got screwed for decades by the Tories and many saw no other hope in having their voices heard.

    For me, this is 100% the fault of the Tories.

  23. Don’t forget how dumb this nation is that voted for it and would vote for it again. This country deserves everything it gets for the way it voted the last ten years.

  24. The majority of Brexit voters were in northern counties. The traditional Labour stronghold

  25. and you’all thought brexit would stop illegals coming into the country which tbh
    was the main focus of brexit and it’s not done shit…

  27. Im an ex pat living in Japan, and I dont think ill be coming back unless the UK rejoins the EU.

  31. I have this conversation with my Tory loving Brexit voting in-laws. They don’t care. To them it was worth it because of the immigrants apparently. They aren’t racist, they just don’t like brown people coming here. Not that it’s a logical argument but then try discussing this with people who have a siege mentality and will never do one second of genuine research on our former and present relationship with the EU. Facts don’t matter to them and as long as they form the majority, facts won’t matter to the Tories.

    That and the same old “well it would be worse under labour” etc. It’s like talking to an edition of the daily mail. My parents aren’t much different.

  32. Totally agree that it is economically illiterate. Change the rules on a referendum and get proportional representation in whilst you are at. Oh yes, just saw another flying pig . . .

  33. Brexit was a disappointing move, and it’s been handled terribly. I can’t say I’ve ever come to see it as really a “Conservative thing” however.

    Lots of people wanted it for lots of (misinformed) reasons, even those not familiar with politics for either party.

    I’m glad that it was handled democratically and that it also showed that misinformation is effective and needs to be called out and stopped.

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