For a good half an hour as well. Good going by Lineker and that
Excellent broadcasting.
Proud of Lineker for sticking to his guns. At the end of the day, these are professional commentators, sports journalists and analysts, and it’s their job to go there a report what’s going on. Including the unsavoury nature of Qatar’s hosting, and hopefully the joyful moments of sport as well. I think they’ve drawn a pretty clear line where they stand. Going to this World Cup, doesn’t mean they support it.
Particularly pleasing watching this, as I was stuck with a dodgy stream for the first 20 minutes. The American coverage on Fox, which includes England’s own Eni Aluko, was absolutely crawling. The levels of sycophancy to the Qatari hosts was vomit inducing. One of the guys behind the table actually had to shut up the host, who was continually waxing lyrical about the Emir and the Qatari people and various meaningless platitude language.
Side note. What happened to Robbie Williams?
I hope they aired Qatar losing their opening game 2-0
The first goal was called offside. Referee might have made some good bucks!
I think the final words of this article show how strange this was.
> BBC viewers had just seen something unusual: a television broadcaster with the rights to show the world’s biggest sporting event choosing to comprehensively trash the product it was about to serve up.
And they didn’t hold back in their criticism of the Qatari’s performance (justifiably so, the Dog & Gun in Wolves would have given Ecuador more of a game)
I hope this is the start of something good.Comment on the Saudis , Israel ,Australia the USA and Britain .All of it please.No exceptions or fake outrage.It will be great to have someone stand for human rights not just when it’s fashionable.
Like most of sound mind, (ahem) I’ve questioned the point of the BBC and, in particular, the licence fee over the last few years but they did well today, credit where it’s due and all that
ITT: Qatar apparently has hired some internet trolls
I never thought I’ll say this but – fucking based move by BBC
I don’t really watch international soccer, so I just caught the end of Lineker talking after the game and did not expect him and Shearer to talk about the stadium being half empty my lord!
Glad he did tho, fuck Qatar.
Didn’t watch it for all the reasons it turns out the BBC decided to discuss. Will actually sit down after and watch it on iPlayer. Then once the game starts I’ll turn off.
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I thought the opening ceremony was already ignored here in the UK? I can’t remember seeing the Russian one but I remember the Brazil one was shown but they didn’t have the audio apart from the atmosphere mics.
It is very good that broadcasters are raising the issue of human rights in Qatar.
It is just a pity that they didn’t have the courage to do the same with bigger more powerful countries.
Tianamen square and the Uyghur genocide didn’t stop the broadcasters from giving gushing praise to the Olympic opening ceremony in Beijing.
Homophobic laws, war crimes in Syria, tyranny and state murder etc were all left unmentioned for the Russia world cup.
Maybe they have found a new moral compass – or maybe Russia and China are too important for selling programming. Time will tell.
Let’s see if their moral stance stays in place for F1 racing in Saudi and other Middle Eastern countries with equally abhorrent human rights records.
The alternative being the BBC being criticised every time they show a match for not talking about the issues. For me Clive, very much a “now that’s out of the way, let’s talk about who Southgate should play in midfield” face saving exercise. The correct moral stance would be to not broadcast the World Cup at all, for all the reasons Lineker and co were talking about.
But then football fans don’t support repressive regimes or human rights abuses. They support football teams. The tide of change may be slow, but it is still drawn inexorably to the shore. In the past, nothing would have been said, even though some hosts were equally culpable. Now those issues are being openly talked about. People are informed, and the soulless bought and paid for creatures of FIFA will never dare award the World Cup to a similar country again.
Ah, so there was a clichéd here’s all the fans of the world waving their flags and a Qatar tourist industry video thing.
I tuned in preparing to laugh at how horrific it was but what we got instead was pretty positive.
This is going to be a very weird World Cup and it seems most people, fans and players alike, are not getting into it like they normally would. The fate of migrant workers, the lack of alcohol and the draconian Qatari laws are taking up more column inches than the tournament right now. It is like everyone is going through with it out of obligation right now, this tournament will probably be seen as a low point for FIFA and one people will be happy to forget.
How much did David Beckham get paid for his part in the Qatari propaganda?
I take my Hat off to these guys for high lighting this in such a public way
I really do wonder if Qatar had imagined things playing out differently. Also, I wonder as well how much it actually impacts their bottom line. Are their hotels maximum capacity? Will the get a tourism boost that’ll last?
Do they take the “any publicity – even notoriety – is good publicity” line? Like Elvia selling “I hate Elvis” merch because you’re paying into his estate regardless. Because Qatar is more on the map now in a way it wasn’t 15 years ago.
Well done BBC – now let’s recall the England squad from this disgrace .
Good on them, I was pleasantly surprised and I hope the pressure continues.
The World Cup feels like it’s potentially an own goal for Qatar.
Back in 2010, pretty much all I knew about Qatar was the airline, and I’d always associated that with luxury.
But now everyone knows about the human rights abuses, the migrant deaths etc and it looks like even the World Cup coverage isn’t going to let us forget about it.
I hope they keep it up throughout the tournament.
In fairness, the opening ceremony was live on BBC red button.
Should scroll the names of the people who died or are missing that were involved with the construction on the bottom of the screen. Slavery should not exist in 2022
As Leslie Jordan once said ‘Fame puts you on a stage where you can either take or give’.
Instead of giving the LGBTQ community a clear indication that staging an event in an openly homophobic country is morally wrong and boycotting it. David Beckham chose to ‘take’ the fat pay cheque.
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For a good half an hour as well. Good going by Lineker and that
Excellent broadcasting.
Proud of Lineker for sticking to his guns. At the end of the day, these are professional commentators, sports journalists and analysts, and it’s their job to go there a report what’s going on. Including the unsavoury nature of Qatar’s hosting, and hopefully the joyful moments of sport as well. I think they’ve drawn a pretty clear line where they stand. Going to this World Cup, doesn’t mean they support it.
Particularly pleasing watching this, as I was stuck with a dodgy stream for the first 20 minutes. The American coverage on Fox, which includes England’s own Eni Aluko, was absolutely crawling. The levels of sycophancy to the Qatari hosts was vomit inducing. One of the guys behind the table actually had to shut up the host, who was continually waxing lyrical about the Emir and the Qatari people and various meaningless platitude language.
Side note. What happened to Robbie Williams?
I hope they aired Qatar losing their opening game 2-0
The first goal was called offside. Referee might have made some good bucks!
I think the final words of this article show how strange this was.
> BBC viewers had just seen something unusual: a television broadcaster with the rights to show the world’s biggest sporting event choosing to comprehensively trash the product it was about to serve up.
And they didn’t hold back in their criticism of the Qatari’s performance (justifiably so, the Dog & Gun in Wolves would have given Ecuador more of a game)
I hope this is the start of something good.Comment on the Saudis , Israel ,Australia the USA and Britain .All of it please.No exceptions or fake outrage.It will be great to have someone stand for human rights not just when it’s fashionable.
Like most of sound mind, (ahem) I’ve questioned the point of the BBC and, in particular, the licence fee over the last few years but they did well today, credit where it’s due and all that
ITT: Qatar apparently has hired some internet trolls
I never thought I’ll say this but – fucking based move by BBC
I don’t really watch international soccer, so I just caught the end of Lineker talking after the game and did not expect him and Shearer to talk about the stadium being half empty my lord!
Glad he did tho, fuck Qatar.
Didn’t watch it for all the reasons it turns out the BBC decided to discuss. Will actually sit down after and watch it on iPlayer. Then once the game starts I’ll turn off.
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I thought the opening ceremony was already ignored here in the UK? I can’t remember seeing the Russian one but I remember the Brazil one was shown but they didn’t have the audio apart from the atmosphere mics.
It is very good that broadcasters are raising the issue of human rights in Qatar.
It is just a pity that they didn’t have the courage to do the same with bigger more powerful countries.
Tianamen square and the Uyghur genocide didn’t stop the broadcasters from giving gushing praise to the Olympic opening ceremony in Beijing.
Homophobic laws, war crimes in Syria, tyranny and state murder etc were all left unmentioned for the Russia world cup.
Maybe they have found a new moral compass – or maybe Russia and China are too important for selling programming. Time will tell.
Let’s see if their moral stance stays in place for F1 racing in Saudi and other Middle Eastern countries with equally abhorrent human rights records.
The alternative being the BBC being criticised every time they show a match for not talking about the issues. For me Clive, very much a “now that’s out of the way, let’s talk about who Southgate should play in midfield” face saving exercise. The correct moral stance would be to not broadcast the World Cup at all, for all the reasons Lineker and co were talking about.
But then football fans don’t support repressive regimes or human rights abuses. They support football teams. The tide of change may be slow, but it is still drawn inexorably to the shore. In the past, nothing would have been said, even though some hosts were equally culpable. Now those issues are being openly talked about. People are informed, and the soulless bought and paid for creatures of FIFA will never dare award the World Cup to a similar country again.
Ah, so there was a clichéd here’s all the fans of the world waving their flags and a Qatar tourist industry video thing.
I tuned in preparing to laugh at how horrific it was but what we got instead was pretty positive.
This is going to be a very weird World Cup and it seems most people, fans and players alike, are not getting into it like they normally would. The fate of migrant workers, the lack of alcohol and the draconian Qatari laws are taking up more column inches than the tournament right now. It is like everyone is going through with it out of obligation right now, this tournament will probably be seen as a low point for FIFA and one people will be happy to forget.
How much did David Beckham get paid for his part in the Qatari propaganda?
I take my Hat off to these guys for high lighting this in such a public way
I really do wonder if Qatar had imagined things playing out differently. Also, I wonder as well how much it actually impacts their bottom line. Are their hotels maximum capacity? Will the get a tourism boost that’ll last?
Do they take the “any publicity – even notoriety – is good publicity” line? Like Elvia selling “I hate Elvis” merch because you’re paying into his estate regardless. Because Qatar is more on the map now in a way it wasn’t 15 years ago.
Well done BBC – now let’s recall the England squad from this disgrace .
Good on them, I was pleasantly surprised and I hope the pressure continues.
The World Cup feels like it’s potentially an own goal for Qatar.
Back in 2010, pretty much all I knew about Qatar was the airline, and I’d always associated that with luxury.
But now everyone knows about the human rights abuses, the migrant deaths etc and it looks like even the World Cup coverage isn’t going to let us forget about it.
I hope they keep it up throughout the tournament.
In fairness, the opening ceremony was live on BBC red button.
Should scroll the names of the people who died or are missing that were involved with the construction on the bottom of the screen. Slavery should not exist in 2022
As Leslie Jordan once said ‘Fame puts you on a stage where you can either take or give’.
Instead of giving the LGBTQ community a clear indication that staging an event in an openly homophobic country is morally wrong and boycotting it. David Beckham chose to ‘take’ the fat pay cheque.