Backlash as father-of-two jailed for tackling burglars but crooks given slap on wrist – as fund for him hits £16,000

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  1. I agree the punishment was lenient on the burglars however you can’t just go around mowing people down with your car – yes defend your property and chase them off, but his follow up actions are what resulted in the prison sentence, that’s going well above and beyond defending your home.

    Cases like this have to be implemented otherwise we could end up with people taking crime into their own hands, reasonable self defence *is* allowed but chasing people down and trying to kill them isnt.

  2. This country’s self defence laws are fucking abysmal.

    -Edit- ok I read the article now, maybe don’t go out your way to follow and attack fleeing criminals.

  5. Self defence:

    >You’re allowed to defend yourself from a home invasion, but you have to use reasonable force.
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    >If burglars come into your house and you give them a few good licks with a baseball bat before they run off, you’re absolutely fine. Reasonable force.
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    >But if you chased one out of the house and smashed their legs in in your front garden, you’re going down for GBH because you didn’t use reasonable force and you were no longer simply defending yourself.

  6. If we as a nation allow the police to be defunded to the point where they are unable to function then people will take the law into their own hands. I’m not saying that you should try to murder or maim the crooks but without effective law enforcement what else do you do but try to protect you home, family and possessions.

  7. Just because he went into the back of them doesn’t mean he did it on purpose. The twats on the bike braked for the corner so hard it wore the tire to the cords in one part. Should the bloke have been Charged with reckless driving? Sure. But a fucking custodial sentence? No fucking way. The two scrotes deserved prison time long ago. Fuck them.

    Edited for atrocious spelling. 😢

  8. This reminds me of the farmer who killed a burglar by shooting him in the back as he ran away. Yes, you can defend your home, but chasing after and/or attacking criminals who are fleeing is not a form of defence (unless it’s too simply apprehend them while you wait for the police to arrive).

    If I remember correctly one of the reasons why a lot of people sympathised with the farmer was because he had been burgled often and the police weren’t able to stop it.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-England-norfolk-49355814.amp

    Edit: Some people are rightly pointing out the big differences between the two cases, so in hindsight I should have put *This “kinda” reminds me …*. The two cases share the theme of pursuing fleeing burglars, but are otherwise quite different: As pointed out, the biggest differences are that (1) one was planned and one was a “heat of the moment” incident and (2) there were very significant prior events in Tony Martin’s case.

  12. That headline is intentional rage bait.

    He didn’t ‘tackle’ the burglars, he pursued them in his car and ran them off the road.

    Anyone who knows anything about self defence will tell you that you should never chase anyone once they’ve stopped being a threat to you

  13. I read the article and still side with Adam. I think he could be fined but those robbing bastards should be treated with the respect of robbing bastard scum nothing more. Hope their nobs fall off from an std

  14. Maybe a controversial opinion but fair play to him for doing it, it’s not self defense at the point he did it but given he has kids and a wife I can’t say I blame him for seeing red. Given the attitude of the burglars they don’t seem destitute, just typical scumbags, only a shame they are still walking.

  15. Oh no! Two career criminals who provide nothing to society got hurt! However will I go on?

    No sympathy for them. You forfeit your safety when you decide to commit crime. They were armed with heavy equipment and could have easily maimed his family.

    I’m so bored of the UK letting these cretins off, calling the true victims psychopaths and acting like these wastes of space have any postives.

    Don’t break the law, don’t get run over. Simple.

  16. It stops being self defence when you chase after them, fire up the car and attempt to hit them.

    People know this. They just feel revenge killing should be legal.

  17. I mean yeah he did wrong legally. But let’s face it he wouldn’t have chased them if they were scally bastards trying to break into his gaff so kinda their own fault. Getting off with suspended sentences when going armed to rob someone’s house is fucking insane.

  19. I’m curious if any of the people who mention reasonable force have ever been burgled. I can’t even describe the rage I felt when I found my house turned upside down and almost every valuable thing I had missing. They even took some personal items that I’m sure couldn’t be sold anywhere. The only reason the police did anything was because I had recorded footage of the incident. Even now I can’t look at it because it makes me sick.

  20. Absolutely disgusting that 2 scumbags that are a waste of the air they breathe walk away and can sue for money while a hard working family man gets his life ruined.

  21. A friend I met at uni had a brother who hung around a rough crowd.

    Let’s just say he could “get” you things cheap upon order.

    Turns out this guy who never did well at school was extremely well versed with the law, including what constitutes trespassing and not burglary, how to make a burglary into a trespass and hence no sentence realistically.
    When passing cars, how to psychologically profile the owner based on car type, colour and contents.
    Based on that profile, what’s the likelihood of goodies to be found in that car, and where would they best be kept.

    I asked if it was just his brother who was so well versed with such knowledge. He said it’s very common even amongst pickpockets to be so well-informed.

    So these people are deliberately picking you from many people, study your movements to find the best time to break in, then break in.
    You don’t know if they came to burgle you, or kill you.

    I’m just saying no one would leave my house in peace if they came.

    I’ll defend my family.

  22. There’s literally no deterrent for burglary, this is a way of rewarding the act. If breaking in to someones home actually had long term consequences, people might actually not do it…

  23. It probably shows the lack of faith people have in the police. When my dads garage got robbed and thousands of pounds of tools nicked, it took a week for anyone to turn up then another 2 weeks before any forensics was done coz the bad man cut himself and left blood, then the police said we probably won’t find the people that did it…..and guess what? They didn’t!

  24. > he ran two men off the road who were attempting to burgle his house

    That is WAY past ‘defending his home’ mind.

    Pathetic that the burglars get a slap on the wrist though.

  25. How did I know r/unitedkingdom would have the worst takes possible – actual morons. Good on the fella for breaking their legs.

  26. Friend of mine was attacked at a cashpoint by two guys, unfortunately for them he was a trained fighter and instead of running away these two characters wouldn’t give up until they were beaten to a pulp.

    They had been targeting people at cashpoints for weeks but the police hadn’t been able to identify them let alone catch them despite good CCTV covering the cashpoint areas.

    Despite my friends incident being caught on CCTV showing these two idiots repeatedly trying to attack, he was convicted of GBH because he had ‘fighting skills’ and the judge made some very disparaging remarks about ‘vigilantes’ despite the facts of the case.

    This shows that the UK justice system just wants you to hand over whatever any criminal wants which in itself will just increase crime, it’s pathetic.

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