>Karner: I’m upset too. Namely about the procedure, that the legal acts were put on the table **practically overnight**. For more than a decade there has been discussion that Schengen should be expanded. And now it suddenly comes, without preparing the population for what that will bring: Is that more security? Or is there a plus and a minus to risk?
Ah, so that’s it? The poor guy woke up this morning and was told that there’s a meeting? He lived in an alternate universe where the only topic in the EU was the World Cup? The Czech presidency of the EU should have notified him back in 1995, so that he can have time to prepare?
Is this a joke?
In the Ministry of the Interior in Vienna’s Herrengasse, two candles are burning on the Advent wreath, and the punch stands for the departmental Christmas party are already set up in the courtyard. At the meeting of interior ministers in Brussels on Thursday, things were less contemplative – the talks on Schengen are said to have been extremely tense.
**STANDARD**: Mr. Karner, in the course of the German raid on the Reich citizenship scene, connections lead to Austria, there was also an arrest here. Do you have any findings that an extreme right-wing coup might have been planned in this country as well?
**Karner**: The Reich Citizens’ main area of activity is Germany. But the seizure took place in close cooperation with Italian and Austrian authorities. It was prepared intensively for a long time. The operation shows that international cooperation is enormously important, especially in the case of such anti-democratic groups, and that the Austrian State Security Service is once again playing a role in Europe.
**STANDARD**: Are there any concrete grounds for suspicion in Austria?
**Karner**: In cases as large as this one, the following applies: The arrests result in further interrogations, which will certainly lead to further investigations. This is because the Reich citizenship scene in Germany and Austria is also an overlapping one with good networking due to the common language and cultural area.
**STANDARD**: Parts of the security forces tend to be susceptible to such ideologies. Armed right-wing extremist networks have been uncovered in the German armed forces before, and there have also been cases of extremism in the Austrian armed forces. What can you say about the police?
**Karner**: We currently have no indications that Interior Ministry employees would be affected.
**STANDARD**: At the meeting of interior ministers on Thursday, you joined the Netherlands in vetoing Romania’s Schengen accession. What did the country do wrong?
**Karner**: I voted against admitting Bulgaria and Romania at the present time. Because Schengen is not working at the moment, otherwise we would not have 75,000 unregistered arrivals in Austria. And I proposed to postpone the accession and to vote again in September, for example. After this phase, we can say: Has anything happened, have the measures that the EU Commission announced in a first step been followed by deeds? Paper is patient, measures are important.
**STANDARD**: But only a minority of the people who apply for asylum in Austria come via Romania – most of them via Serbia and Hungary. Romania is angry about Austria’s approach.
**Karner**: I am also annoyed. Namely, about the procedure that the legal acts were put on the table practically overnight. For more than a decade, it has been discussed that Schengen should be expanded. And now it’s coming all of a sudden, without preparing the population for what it will bring: Is it an increase in security? Or is there a plus and a minus in terms of risk?
**STANDARD**: But you’re alone in this. All countries that are also affected, such as Slovenia, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia, are not going along with you.
**Karner**: The Czech Republic currently holds the EU presidency. When you are the presidency, you naturally want to achieve results, I understand that. I think it is essential that effective measures to curb illegal migration and asylum abuse are now implemented, for example that external border procedures are carried out in Bulgaria.
**STANDARD**: Would your assessment of Romania and Bulgaria be different if there were not a very important election for the ÖVP in Lower Austria on January 29?
**Karner**: One has nothing to do with the other. We have the largest number of refugees since 1956, actually illegal migration, because we know that the majority are economic refugees. It’s not like I can ignore that. And regardless of whether there is an election somewhere or not, these things are facts and I have to deal with them as a minister.
**STANDARD**: In Austria there were almost 40,000 applications for asylum in the previous year, in Hungary 40. What is wrong there?
**Karner**: If an Indian who is looking for an economically better life wants to work in Austria, Italy, Spain, or Portugal, no one will make him utter the word “asylum” in Hungary. Because he does not want to work in Hungary, but in Western Europe.
**STANDARD**: You demand a sharp distinction between asylum and migration. Why don’t you give Tunisians, for example, who have experience in tourism in their home country, which is popular as a vacation destination, work visas for the Austrian gastronomy sector, which is desperately looking for workers?
**Karner**: We do that, and we must do it even more. Very specifically via the Red-White-Red Card. I have just discussed this topic again with Labor Minister Martin Kocher, who is responsible for legal immigration and labor migration. I am responsible for the fight against illegal migration. And I am strictly against mixing the two.
Austria will suffer a burn in their pocker i can’t wait to see how they deal with the backlash. Congrats i hope they enjoy the idiocy
Austria’s claims aren’t worth 2 cents. Romania has been anti immigration since the very beginning of the migrant crisis and was even criticized by western nations for the low number of immigrants it received inside its borders. Most immigrants arrived in Europe by traversing the Mediterranean to Spain and Italy. And in the Balkans they traveled through Greece and Serbia, in order to reach Germany and France.
And even if Romania was somehow involved in this, immigration wasn’t one of the requirements for entering Schengen. Romania fulfills the requirements since 2011. They were refused then too. The entire system of admission is flawed if you are qualified for entry, but you can’t because someone doesn’t like you. It’s a form of ethnic discrimination. Austria is using this opportunity in order to force Romania to sell it cheap oil from the Black Sea.
Still Romania is in the EU and they can also veto against Austria’s interests if the opportunity arrives. Austria just caused unnecessary trouble for the whole EU.
Guys nu mai fiti rai cu Austria, e si ministru lor supy. Uite, asa supy a fost ca din 3 tari a lasat-o doar pe una sa faca parte din clanul lor de privilegiati… ooof
“You mean all those discussions about expanding Schengen would end in expanding Schengen. Next, you’ll tell you intend to let Albania and Makedonia join the EU!”
This guy is a piece of shit with glasses.
Let’s assume for a moment that Romania is a major migration path. How the hell can they reach Austria without going through Hungary???? Shouldn’t this Russian shill piece of shit be mad at the other pro-Russian boot licker – Orban?
And if indeed this is nothing personal and just complaining about overall Schengen expansion, how are they ok with Croatia? Romania and Bulgaria, waiting for 11 years are a surprise, but Croatia wasn’t?
So Mr. Karner you are a lying piece of shit! And a stupid one at that, you cannot even lie properly.
PS: nothing against Croatia, I am happy for them that they got in.
Damage control. Incompetently done.
Austrian businesses in RO were also engaged today in:
“Please don’t look into our obviously shady, probably illegal activities too closely as retaliation.
We are also dissapointed in this decision, honestly.”
Oh, fuck off, Gerhard.
If you and your nimrod compatriots had facts you could’ve presented them instead of this moronic baseless fear mongering about illegal immigrants coming through Bulgaria and Romania.
Dipshit.
God i hope there is some quick way or just a special accasion to reverse this dumb decision
We don’t give a fuck!
We wanted deeds and hope, not bullshit excuses and regrets!
Take your cheap marketing tricks and go home!
Now let’s see how we’ll fuck the Austrian companies and relations for good!
What a bunch of clowns. Their excuses get shittier and shittier. They can’t just admit they’re pandering to xenophobes.
Fuck you !!!!
Strangely the EU doesn’t exist to delight nasty people.
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Fucking dipshit.
>Karner: I’m upset too. Namely about the procedure, that the legal acts were put on the table **practically overnight**. For more than a decade there has been discussion that Schengen should be expanded. And now it suddenly comes, without preparing the population for what that will bring: Is that more security? Or is there a plus and a minus to risk?
Ah, so that’s it? The poor guy woke up this morning and was told that there’s a meeting? He lived in an alternate universe where the only topic in the EU was the World Cup? The Czech presidency of the EU should have notified him back in 1995, so that he can have time to prepare?
Is this a joke?
In the Ministry of the Interior in Vienna’s Herrengasse, two candles are burning on the Advent wreath, and the punch stands for the departmental Christmas party are already set up in the courtyard. At the meeting of interior ministers in Brussels on Thursday, things were less contemplative – the talks on Schengen are said to have been extremely tense.
**STANDARD**: Mr. Karner, in the course of the German raid on the Reich citizenship scene, connections lead to Austria, there was also an arrest here. Do you have any findings that an extreme right-wing coup might have been planned in this country as well?
**Karner**: The Reich Citizens’ main area of activity is Germany. But the seizure took place in close cooperation with Italian and Austrian authorities. It was prepared intensively for a long time. The operation shows that international cooperation is enormously important, especially in the case of such anti-democratic groups, and that the Austrian State Security Service is once again playing a role in Europe.
**STANDARD**: Are there any concrete grounds for suspicion in Austria?
**Karner**: In cases as large as this one, the following applies: The arrests result in further interrogations, which will certainly lead to further investigations. This is because the Reich citizenship scene in Germany and Austria is also an overlapping one with good networking due to the common language and cultural area.
**STANDARD**: Parts of the security forces tend to be susceptible to such ideologies. Armed right-wing extremist networks have been uncovered in the German armed forces before, and there have also been cases of extremism in the Austrian armed forces. What can you say about the police?
**Karner**: We currently have no indications that Interior Ministry employees would be affected.
**STANDARD**: At the meeting of interior ministers on Thursday, you joined the Netherlands in vetoing Romania’s Schengen accession. What did the country do wrong?
**Karner**: I voted against admitting Bulgaria and Romania at the present time. Because Schengen is not working at the moment, otherwise we would not have 75,000 unregistered arrivals in Austria. And I proposed to postpone the accession and to vote again in September, for example. After this phase, we can say: Has anything happened, have the measures that the EU Commission announced in a first step been followed by deeds? Paper is patient, measures are important.
**STANDARD**: But only a minority of the people who apply for asylum in Austria come via Romania – most of them via Serbia and Hungary. Romania is angry about Austria’s approach.
**Karner**: I am also annoyed. Namely, about the procedure that the legal acts were put on the table practically overnight. For more than a decade, it has been discussed that Schengen should be expanded. And now it’s coming all of a sudden, without preparing the population for what it will bring: Is it an increase in security? Or is there a plus and a minus in terms of risk?
**STANDARD**: But you’re alone in this. All countries that are also affected, such as Slovenia, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia, are not going along with you.
**Karner**: The Czech Republic currently holds the EU presidency. When you are the presidency, you naturally want to achieve results, I understand that. I think it is essential that effective measures to curb illegal migration and asylum abuse are now implemented, for example that external border procedures are carried out in Bulgaria.
**STANDARD**: Would your assessment of Romania and Bulgaria be different if there were not a very important election for the ÖVP in Lower Austria on January 29?
**Karner**: One has nothing to do with the other. We have the largest number of refugees since 1956, actually illegal migration, because we know that the majority are economic refugees. It’s not like I can ignore that. And regardless of whether there is an election somewhere or not, these things are facts and I have to deal with them as a minister.
**STANDARD**: In Austria there were almost 40,000 applications for asylum in the previous year, in Hungary 40. What is wrong there?
**Karner**: If an Indian who is looking for an economically better life wants to work in Austria, Italy, Spain, or Portugal, no one will make him utter the word “asylum” in Hungary. Because he does not want to work in Hungary, but in Western Europe.
**STANDARD**: You demand a sharp distinction between asylum and migration. Why don’t you give Tunisians, for example, who have experience in tourism in their home country, which is popular as a vacation destination, work visas for the Austrian gastronomy sector, which is desperately looking for workers?
**Karner**: We do that, and we must do it even more. Very specifically via the Red-White-Red Card. I have just discussed this topic again with Labor Minister Martin Kocher, who is responsible for legal immigration and labor migration. I am responsible for the fight against illegal migration. And I am strictly against mixing the two.
Austria will suffer a burn in their pocker i can’t wait to see how they deal with the backlash. Congrats i hope they enjoy the idiocy
Austria’s claims aren’t worth 2 cents. Romania has been anti immigration since the very beginning of the migrant crisis and was even criticized by western nations for the low number of immigrants it received inside its borders. Most immigrants arrived in Europe by traversing the Mediterranean to Spain and Italy. And in the Balkans they traveled through Greece and Serbia, in order to reach Germany and France.
And even if Romania was somehow involved in this, immigration wasn’t one of the requirements for entering Schengen. Romania fulfills the requirements since 2011. They were refused then too. The entire system of admission is flawed if you are qualified for entry, but you can’t because someone doesn’t like you. It’s a form of ethnic discrimination. Austria is using this opportunity in order to force Romania to sell it cheap oil from the Black Sea.
Still Romania is in the EU and they can also veto against Austria’s interests if the opportunity arrives. Austria just caused unnecessary trouble for the whole EU.
Guys nu mai fiti rai cu Austria, e si ministru lor supy. Uite, asa supy a fost ca din 3 tari a lasat-o doar pe una sa faca parte din clanul lor de privilegiati… ooof
“You mean all those discussions about expanding Schengen would end in expanding Schengen. Next, you’ll tell you intend to let Albania and Makedonia join the EU!”
This guy is a piece of shit with glasses.
Let’s assume for a moment that Romania is a major migration path. How the hell can they reach Austria without going through Hungary???? Shouldn’t this Russian shill piece of shit be mad at the other pro-Russian boot licker – Orban?
And if indeed this is nothing personal and just complaining about overall Schengen expansion, how are they ok with Croatia? Romania and Bulgaria, waiting for 11 years are a surprise, but Croatia wasn’t?
So Mr. Karner you are a lying piece of shit! And a stupid one at that, you cannot even lie properly.
PS: nothing against Croatia, I am happy for them that they got in.
Damage control. Incompetently done.
Austrian businesses in RO were also engaged today in:
“Please don’t look into our obviously shady, probably illegal activities too closely as retaliation.
We are also dissapointed in this decision, honestly.”
Oh, fuck off, Gerhard.
If you and your nimrod compatriots had facts you could’ve presented them instead of this moronic baseless fear mongering about illegal immigrants coming through Bulgaria and Romania.
Dipshit.
God i hope there is some quick way or just a special accasion to reverse this dumb decision
We don’t give a fuck!
We wanted deeds and hope, not bullshit excuses and regrets!
Take your cheap marketing tricks and go home!
Now let’s see how we’ll fuck the Austrian companies and relations for good!
What a bunch of clowns. Their excuses get shittier and shittier. They can’t just admit they’re pandering to xenophobes.
Fuck you !!!!
Strangely the EU doesn’t exist to delight nasty people.