I fully agree with redress, given the role of regulation (or lack thereof) in this mess.
However, I’m a bit confused as to why SF think an industry levy is a good idea here, but were so vehemently opposed to the concrete block levy for mica redress.
Like who do they think an industry levy will be passed on to?
weren’t they against the mica levy?
So this levy is OK, but the concrete block levy isn’t?
It was popular to come out against the concrete block levy. We like concrete blocks, they’re our friend.
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The industry though. Absolutely swine, they’re our enemy. So it’s popular to come out against the industry.
How about a building inspection agency with enforcement capabilities?
I definitely want people to be compensated fully but the main thing we need is a government body inspecting these developments before, during and after construction. If they fail, they can’t sell them. Local authorities can’t rent or buy them. Banks can’t sign off on mortgages on them. Whatever it takes. Even have criminal prosecutions of anyone who knowingly builds or sells defective dwellings.
I think that would be more effective than a levy that will just be added to the price future buyers pay.
Excellent,
The people and companies that caused it get to walk away and everyone going forward has to pay of it. I get there’s more complex stuff we don’t see but come on lads when did we decide to stop holding the people who do things accountable.
The manufacturers of faulty blocks should be forced to pay damages, and maybe the building contractors involved. Levies need not extend to the whole countries’ industries
Wouldent this just result in new apartments being sold at a 15% premium so that new owners are paying the price for old owners?
This from a party who was up in arms over the concrete levy. To fix the houses effected by Micra.
>Sinn Féin is proposing that the redress scheme is funded through a levy on the profit of large companies, such as cement manufacturers, construction companies, banks
Sounds an awful lot like the concrete levy that they were against, but with more steps
I wonder what percentage of apartments are owned by landlords?
look there’s no point in any party calling it an ‘industry levy’ is there. at the very least they should just be transparent and say it is going to cost us all more to ensure self-certification as a practice in building ends. resource local authorities to appropriately do it too.
fire certs being signed off two years before apartment blocks are even built is just ridiculous, let alone building materials issues. The recent compliance report for Donegal wasn’t exactly flying colours.
Good, get the shit and smoke stained couches and tables that have been used for decades out for starters
Houses get more expensive for those who don’t have them.
This has already been discussed and ruled out, because industry always pass the costs on. It would drive the price of building up even higher and make the housing crisis even worse.
Is this the same SF that opposed the concrete levy?
They really don’t know what they want.
We need an nct type system for all accommodation, the places me end my partner have lived have been atrocious, no heating, mould, leaks and when we complain we get a call not long after saying “oh my niece/nephew is moving in actually so you have to leave.
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I fully agree with redress, given the role of regulation (or lack thereof) in this mess.
However, I’m a bit confused as to why SF think an industry levy is a good idea here, but were so vehemently opposed to the concrete block levy for mica redress.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-seeks-to-scrap-budget-concrete-block-levy-with-dail-motion-next-week-42031799.html
Like who do they think an industry levy will be passed on to?
weren’t they against the mica levy?
So this levy is OK, but the concrete block levy isn’t?
It was popular to come out against the concrete block levy. We like concrete blocks, they’re our friend.
​
The industry though. Absolutely swine, they’re our enemy. So it’s popular to come out against the industry.
How about a building inspection agency with enforcement capabilities?
I definitely want people to be compensated fully but the main thing we need is a government body inspecting these developments before, during and after construction. If they fail, they can’t sell them. Local authorities can’t rent or buy them. Banks can’t sign off on mortgages on them. Whatever it takes. Even have criminal prosecutions of anyone who knowingly builds or sells defective dwellings.
I think that would be more effective than a levy that will just be added to the price future buyers pay.
Excellent,
The people and companies that caused it get to walk away and everyone going forward has to pay of it. I get there’s more complex stuff we don’t see but come on lads when did we decide to stop holding the people who do things accountable.
The manufacturers of faulty blocks should be forced to pay damages, and maybe the building contractors involved. Levies need not extend to the whole countries’ industries
Wouldent this just result in new apartments being sold at a 15% premium so that new owners are paying the price for old owners?
This from a party who was up in arms over the concrete levy. To fix the houses effected by Micra.
>Sinn Féin is proposing that the redress scheme is funded through a levy on the profit of large companies, such as cement manufacturers, construction companies, banks
Sounds an awful lot like the concrete levy that they were against, but with more steps
I wonder what percentage of apartments are owned by landlords?
look there’s no point in any party calling it an ‘industry levy’ is there. at the very least they should just be transparent and say it is going to cost us all more to ensure self-certification as a practice in building ends. resource local authorities to appropriately do it too.
fire certs being signed off two years before apartment blocks are even built is just ridiculous, let alone building materials issues. The recent compliance report for Donegal wasn’t exactly flying colours.
Good, get the shit and smoke stained couches and tables that have been used for decades out for starters
Houses get more expensive for those who don’t have them.
This has already been discussed and ruled out, because industry always pass the costs on. It would drive the price of building up even higher and make the housing crisis even worse.
Is this the same SF that opposed the concrete levy?
They really don’t know what they want.
We need an nct type system for all accommodation, the places me end my partner have lived have been atrocious, no heating, mould, leaks and when we complain we get a call not long after saying “oh my niece/nephew is moving in actually so you have to leave.