What a load of absolute shite. You shouldn’t be allowed to move next to a live music venue, and then complain about the noise. What sort of moron moves next to a venue during lockdown and assumes it’ll never reopen!
Maybe don’t move in next door to a music venue then
>She says MCC should never have allowed the neighbouring warehouse to be turned into flats in 2000 without proper soundproofing. Council documents show that planning consent was contingent on a “study of noise within the vicinity of the building” that would identify necessary noise insulation to protect “future residents”. This study never happened and the flats were built with no sound proofing, claims Smithson.
This is surely ridiculous? If excessive noise is above the ‘normal’, normal for what? Living next door to an established music venue? In the countryside? On a busy road?
I’d have thought being able to hear the Eurythmics in your bedroom next door to a music venue would be pretty normal.
It has all worked out for the best. Live music continues. People have moved out and on with their lives. all’s well that ends well. Are there any def people in Reddit land that want a cheap place to live. Just a thought.
Developers built high end (think 4 – 5 bedroom) houses across the road from a pub I used to frequent, the new residents quickly got to complaining and now people aren’t allowed in the beer garden past 9pm. I understand it’s a residential area and pubs can be noisy, rowdy places but for the past however many decades the pubs been there, the other nearby residents (myself included) had never complained. The developers knew the pub was there beforehand, the council did and the people buying the houses did and yet the moment well to do families moved in the complaints started rolling in. But as I said, I understand it’s a residential area.
That experience hasn’t given me much hope for a new development of a fair few flats in the city centre. The only rock pub in the city centre is going to be right next door to these newly developed flats and it often is open until 3 – 4am on weekends and has gigs on until 11pm throughout the week. The developers claim to be doing everything they can to dampen noise so that the nearby pubs/clubs/bars won’t have to change but I guarantee that when the complaints start, that spells the end for this rock pub which has been here for as long as I remember.
The only real way to stop sound is density, and no developer is going to foot the cost of making the walls extra thick and solid when it’s expensive and cuts into how many flats they can fit in a single space. The council should never have allowed these to have even be built, and developers need to be held to account for failing to uphold their promises.
Don’t move near to an established music venue then, you complete and utter arsewipe.
Are you sure being an arsehole isn’t what made him a recluse?
Good. Don’t want him out and about ruining peoples fun.
>The couple moved into their home during lockdown
Sounds like a them problem.
When I worked for Costa, their roastery was in Clapham/Vauxhall.
They built those eyesore apartment towers for wealthy foreign investors on the South Bank who immediately complained about the smell of roasting coffee (who doesn’t like the smell of roasting coffee?)
So Costa was forced to move its roastery into a warehouse on an industrial estate on the London periphery somewhere, and now Clapham once again smells of diesel and piss.
Delightful.
We need to build housing and it needs to be better zoned. Living above a shop or a takeaway is generally a good thing, there are hundreds of business with reasonable operating hours that come with the benefit that you’re near them.
But it’s also really reasonable to have night life in a city and that will always be unsociable if you’re living above it. This kinda thing is what happens when building new is so discouraged and when it does happen it’s car-centric out of town developments.
This has happened to my city, where an out of the way club next to a railway line and some student flats suddenly had ‘luxury’ flats built next to it. It lasted less than a year.
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What a load of absolute shite. You shouldn’t be allowed to move next to a live music venue, and then complain about the noise. What sort of moron moves next to a venue during lockdown and assumes it’ll never reopen!
Maybe don’t move in next door to a music venue then
It’s not just the person living there who’s at fault. The developers and the council share blame here. [From another article](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/31/12-hour-party-people-manchester-tells-the-night-day-cafe-to-abate)
>She says MCC should never have allowed the neighbouring warehouse to be turned into flats in 2000 without proper soundproofing. Council documents show that planning consent was contingent on a “study of noise within the vicinity of the building” that would identify necessary noise insulation to protect “future residents”. This study never happened and the flats were built with no sound proofing, claims Smithson.
This is surely ridiculous? If excessive noise is above the ‘normal’, normal for what? Living next door to an established music venue? In the countryside? On a busy road?
I’d have thought being able to hear the Eurythmics in your bedroom next door to a music venue would be pretty normal.
It has all worked out for the best. Live music continues. People have moved out and on with their lives. all’s well that ends well. Are there any def people in Reddit land that want a cheap place to live. Just a thought.
Developers built high end (think 4 – 5 bedroom) houses across the road from a pub I used to frequent, the new residents quickly got to complaining and now people aren’t allowed in the beer garden past 9pm. I understand it’s a residential area and pubs can be noisy, rowdy places but for the past however many decades the pubs been there, the other nearby residents (myself included) had never complained. The developers knew the pub was there beforehand, the council did and the people buying the houses did and yet the moment well to do families moved in the complaints started rolling in. But as I said, I understand it’s a residential area.
That experience hasn’t given me much hope for a new development of a fair few flats in the city centre. The only rock pub in the city centre is going to be right next door to these newly developed flats and it often is open until 3 – 4am on weekends and has gigs on until 11pm throughout the week. The developers claim to be doing everything they can to dampen noise so that the nearby pubs/clubs/bars won’t have to change but I guarantee that when the complaints start, that spells the end for this rock pub which has been here for as long as I remember.
The only real way to stop sound is density, and no developer is going to foot the cost of making the walls extra thick and solid when it’s expensive and cuts into how many flats they can fit in a single space. The council should never have allowed these to have even be built, and developers need to be held to account for failing to uphold their promises.
Don’t move near to an established music venue then, you complete and utter arsewipe.
Are you sure being an arsehole isn’t what made him a recluse?
Good. Don’t want him out and about ruining peoples fun.
>The couple moved into their home during lockdown
Sounds like a them problem.
When I worked for Costa, their roastery was in Clapham/Vauxhall.
They built those eyesore apartment towers for wealthy foreign investors on the South Bank who immediately complained about the smell of roasting coffee (who doesn’t like the smell of roasting coffee?)
So Costa was forced to move its roastery into a warehouse on an industrial estate on the London periphery somewhere, and now Clapham once again smells of diesel and piss.
Delightful.
We need to build housing and it needs to be better zoned. Living above a shop or a takeaway is generally a good thing, there are hundreds of business with reasonable operating hours that come with the benefit that you’re near them.
But it’s also really reasonable to have night life in a city and that will always be unsociable if you’re living above it. This kinda thing is what happens when building new is so discouraged and when it does happen it’s car-centric out of town developments.
This has happened to my city, where an out of the way club next to a railway line and some student flats suddenly had ‘luxury’ flats built next to it. It lasted less than a year.