She wrote on Twitter that the woman “approached me, moved my hair to see my name badge” and then insisted on asking her “what part of Africa are you from”.
Despite her saying she is British, the member of staff said: “I can see I am going to have a challenge getting you to say where you’re from.””
I was half expecting it to be a casual comment but fucking hell, who does the “where are you *really* from” thing at all any more, let alone pursue it repeatedly.
This is Lady Hussey (QEII’s lady in waiting who accompanied her to Prince Phillip’s funeral). She is also one of Prince William’s godmothers. Her daughter was just appointed a Queen’s Companion to Queen Camilla.
I hate that some reporters are trying to imply something about Prince William’s views based on this.
I know some people will put it to age but I’ve faced this “where are you really from” from people of all ages. I had this happen to me by a young admin guy who worked at my uni. It’s really hurtful and racist when people don’t see me as British, despite being born and raised here. I hope Ngozi Fulani is okay.
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“Palace staff member” sounds like someone serving drinks rather than Lady Susan Hussey the queen consorts lady in waiting and also Prince Williams godmother
Ahh I remember this game ….. ” I can’t ask why are you black so let’s go back and forth”
Years ago when I was at uni I used to get the same thing, where are you from….. Back and forth until I’d come out and say you’re asking me why am I brown?
Inherently racist institution showing its true colours again.
Why the majority of the nation bows and scrapes to the Royals is beyond me.
I get this shit from people all the time.
“Where are you from?”
Oh I’m from <insert town here> It’s near <famous town everyone has heard from>
*No where are you really from*
Completely unacceptable, similarly unacceptable to many things said by Prince Phil that a blind eye were turned to.
But but but, the Royal family is not institutionally racist!
I wonder if she was the person asking about the colour of Harry and Megan’s kid?
The response from the palace gets me, “members of the household have been reminded about the inclusiveness and diversity policies”. They have policies in place because some people there need guidance how to be a fucking decent person.
You know when I first saw this I thought it might not be that bad. But nope, her comments were terrible and she touched her hair.
And to think this was the woman they had show Meghan the how the royal family works. Yeah no wonder she felt uncomfortable there
The whole exchange sounds more based in stupidity than malice.
Controversial apparently but why is it not ok to ask someone what their heritage is? Because that’s what this lady was doing. We don’t know what her tone was. Ngozi was dressed up according to that photo in a way not typically seen in the uk at these functions. So odd to me to want to show off your heritage but scream racist when someone asks you about it. I get asked where I’m from all the time and I’m white af. I’m always happy to answer cause it’s someone taking an interest.
This may be ignorant of me, but if you do want to know somebody’s heritage just because you’re curious, is there a way to ask politely? It’s a shame it’s such a politicised and loaded question when sometimes you just want to be friendly and are interested in someone.
As a black guy, yeah, that exchange of words is very familiar to me. Can’t remember the last time I got into a white person’s face and *demanded* to know ‘Where you **really** from?!!?’ but I’ve had several ‘interrogators’ questioning me over the years.
And yeah, I’m British. Born here. Passport and everything.
>> “SH: Oh I can see I am going to have a challenge getting you to say where you’re from. “
It feels like an attempt to belittle someone by literally putting them in their place.
But the charity is for Csrribbean and African women and she is wearing traditional clothing. I think she could have handled it better too. It was juvenile of her not to simply say I am from Britain but my parents are from X which is why I got involved in this charity.
I’m going to play devil’s advocate here…
It was clearly a huge social faux pas, and I understand entirely why the lady on the receiving end felt offended and, to use the modern term, ‘othered’.
But, can we claim with certainty that this came from a place of racism or hatred?
Because I think this is where things get a bit murky. Something can be socially unacceptable, as this was. But is it actually an example of racism?
Now, I don’t think being old gives you a free pass to be offensive, but this lady is seemingly in her late 80s, and I assume grew up in an era when this questioning was not thought of as wrong. I’m from a mixed race Chinese/white family, and some of my older Chinese relatives ask hugely offensive questions, often unintentionally. My white family members less so, but the occasional clumsy phrasing does occasionally get my attention. But I know it’s unintentional and not said with malice.
Secondly, the organisation the lady was representing is seemingly specifically to support black victims of DA and tackle cultural issues within that community. So is reference to her own cultural heritage totally off limits?
I’m being a bit careful here, because I would be annoyed if someone had spoken to me like that, but I’m not sure it’s as clear cut as saying “look, racism”.
Recognising the age of the lady asking the question, could she perhaps not have used the opportunity to explain that her family originated from X but she was born in the UK and therefore considers herself British? A bit annoying sure, but perhaps a more constructive path and one of education?
Or is it?
Just looked this woman up on wiki. First thing it says is she’s “British *African-Caribbean*”. She runs a charity called “Sistah Space” which implies she categorises herself in a specific way with other women. She got a batchelors and masters in *African Studies* which is an indication of where she derives this perceived idea of sisterhood. This isn’t a supposition by the way the charity is openly racist – quote “The charity is the only one of its kind in the United Kingdom that is focused solely on supporting women and girls of *African* heritage.”.
She got her degree from the London school of oriental and *African* studies no less. She teaches *African* dance. She quote “founded the Emashi Dance Ensemble where she teaches children about their *African* culture and heritage through dance and folklore”.
She does all of this and then has the cheek to pick on an old lady of high esteem because she dared to enquire about her cultural roots? This is such an obvious assault on the royal family and the institution of the constitutional-monarchy as a whole. That a woman whose sole identity seems to be her African heritage to take offence at the thought of not being culturally British is a disgrace. It should be *her* resigning.
I’m only assuming the accusations aren’t a fabrication or distortion of the truth because the lady accused has apologised and stepped down – but I do hope it wasn’t under duress. The only witness to this exchange appears to be a far left politician who openly supported Black Lives Matter, a group who lead a series of race riots leading to the deaths of at least 25 people in 2020. This makes me question whether there is even any merit to this version of the events in the hyper politically correct society we live in now, where people get cancelled without any investigation, and some simply resign out of fear.
Why was she even there ? This women accuses the BRF of racism DAILY on twitter .. she has accused Charles and Camilla of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE towards Meghan … she on the regular openly posts how she hates them and how she ONLY supports black women so why would she go to BP?
Something is not right with this and I think BP jumped the gun on their response before investigating this farther … and not shockingly on the very day the POW arrived in Boston .
Can older people be tone deaf ? Yes but I don’t believe this happened the way she is claiming or that there was not a ulterior motive .
EDIT : now she is already using Meghan’s spokesperson omid to get donations to her charity after a traumatic event 🙄
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[Some more info on Sky News](https://news.sky.com/story/buckingham-palace-household-member-resigns-over-unacceptable-comments-made-at-queen-consorts-reception-12758643)
She wrote on Twitter that the woman “approached me, moved my hair to see my name badge” and then insisted on asking her “what part of Africa are you from”.
Despite her saying she is British, the member of staff said: “I can see I am going to have a challenge getting you to say where you’re from.””
For fuck sake what a cunt
Since people are asking, the exchange is here:
https://twitter.com/Sistah_Space/status/1597854380115767296/photo/2
It’s basically “no, where are you _really_ from” on steroids
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Hussey,_Baroness_Hussey_of_North_Bradley
I was half expecting it to be a casual comment but fucking hell, who does the “where are you *really* from” thing at all any more, let alone pursue it repeatedly.
This is Lady Hussey (QEII’s lady in waiting who accompanied her to Prince Phillip’s funeral). She is also one of Prince William’s godmothers. Her daughter was just appointed a Queen’s Companion to Queen Camilla.
I hate that some reporters are trying to imply something about Prince William’s views based on this.
I know some people will put it to age but I’ve faced this “where are you really from” from people of all ages. I had this happen to me by a young admin guy who worked at my uni. It’s really hurtful and racist when people don’t see me as British, despite being born and raised here. I hope Ngozi Fulani is okay.
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“Palace staff member” sounds like someone serving drinks rather than Lady Susan Hussey the queen consorts lady in waiting and also Prince Williams godmother
Ahh I remember this game ….. ” I can’t ask why are you black so let’s go back and forth”
Years ago when I was at uni I used to get the same thing, where are you from….. Back and forth until I’d come out and say you’re asking me why am I brown?
Inherently racist institution showing its true colours again.
Why the majority of the nation bows and scrapes to the Royals is beyond me.
I get this shit from people all the time.
“Where are you from?”
Oh I’m from <insert town here> It’s near <famous town everyone has heard from>
*No where are you really from*
Completely unacceptable, similarly unacceptable to many things said by Prince Phil that a blind eye were turned to.
But but but, the Royal family is not institutionally racist!
I wonder if she was the person asking about the colour of Harry and Megan’s kid?
The response from the palace gets me, “members of the household have been reminded about the inclusiveness and diversity policies”. They have policies in place because some people there need guidance how to be a fucking decent person.
You know when I first saw this I thought it might not be that bad. But nope, her comments were terrible and she touched her hair.
And to think this was the woman they had show Meghan the how the royal family works. Yeah no wonder she felt uncomfortable there
The whole exchange sounds more based in stupidity than malice.
Controversial apparently but why is it not ok to ask someone what their heritage is? Because that’s what this lady was doing. We don’t know what her tone was. Ngozi was dressed up according to that photo in a way not typically seen in the uk at these functions. So odd to me to want to show off your heritage but scream racist when someone asks you about it. I get asked where I’m from all the time and I’m white af. I’m always happy to answer cause it’s someone taking an interest.
This may be ignorant of me, but if you do want to know somebody’s heritage just because you’re curious, is there a way to ask politely? It’s a shame it’s such a politicised and loaded question when sometimes you just want to be friendly and are interested in someone.
As a black guy, yeah, that exchange of words is very familiar to me. Can’t remember the last time I got into a white person’s face and *demanded* to know ‘Where you **really** from?!!?’ but I’ve had several ‘interrogators’ questioning me over the years.
And yeah, I’m British. Born here. Passport and everything.
[Footage of the incident ](https://youtu.be/X9TiMtvkkLY)
>> “SH: Oh I can see I am going to have a challenge getting you to say where you’re from. “
It feels like an attempt to belittle someone by literally putting them in their place.
But the charity is for Csrribbean and African women and she is wearing traditional clothing. I think she could have handled it better too. It was juvenile of her not to simply say I am from Britain but my parents are from X which is why I got involved in this charity.
I’m going to play devil’s advocate here…
It was clearly a huge social faux pas, and I understand entirely why the lady on the receiving end felt offended and, to use the modern term, ‘othered’.
But, can we claim with certainty that this came from a place of racism or hatred?
Because I think this is where things get a bit murky. Something can be socially unacceptable, as this was. But is it actually an example of racism?
Now, I don’t think being old gives you a free pass to be offensive, but this lady is seemingly in her late 80s, and I assume grew up in an era when this questioning was not thought of as wrong. I’m from a mixed race Chinese/white family, and some of my older Chinese relatives ask hugely offensive questions, often unintentionally. My white family members less so, but the occasional clumsy phrasing does occasionally get my attention. But I know it’s unintentional and not said with malice.
Secondly, the organisation the lady was representing is seemingly specifically to support black victims of DA and tackle cultural issues within that community. So is reference to her own cultural heritage totally off limits?
I’m being a bit careful here, because I would be annoyed if someone had spoken to me like that, but I’m not sure it’s as clear cut as saying “look, racism”.
Recognising the age of the lady asking the question, could she perhaps not have used the opportunity to explain that her family originated from X but she was born in the UK and therefore considers herself British? A bit annoying sure, but perhaps a more constructive path and one of education?
Or is it?
Just looked this woman up on wiki. First thing it says is she’s “British *African-Caribbean*”. She runs a charity called “Sistah Space” which implies she categorises herself in a specific way with other women. She got a batchelors and masters in *African Studies* which is an indication of where she derives this perceived idea of sisterhood. This isn’t a supposition by the way the charity is openly racist – quote “The charity is the only one of its kind in the United Kingdom that is focused solely on supporting women and girls of *African* heritage.”.
She got her degree from the London school of oriental and *African* studies no less. She teaches *African* dance. She quote “founded the Emashi Dance Ensemble where she teaches children about their *African* culture and heritage through dance and folklore”.
She does all of this and then has the cheek to pick on an old lady of high esteem because she dared to enquire about her cultural roots? This is such an obvious assault on the royal family and the institution of the constitutional-monarchy as a whole. That a woman whose sole identity seems to be her African heritage to take offence at the thought of not being culturally British is a disgrace. It should be *her* resigning.
I’m only assuming the accusations aren’t a fabrication or distortion of the truth because the lady accused has apologised and stepped down – but I do hope it wasn’t under duress. The only witness to this exchange appears to be a far left politician who openly supported Black Lives Matter, a group who lead a series of race riots leading to the deaths of at least 25 people in 2020. This makes me question whether there is even any merit to this version of the events in the hyper politically correct society we live in now, where people get cancelled without any investigation, and some simply resign out of fear.
Why was she even there ? This women accuses the BRF of racism DAILY on twitter .. she has accused Charles and Camilla of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE towards Meghan … she on the regular openly posts how she hates them and how she ONLY supports black women so why would she go to BP?
Something is not right with this and I think BP jumped the gun on their response before investigating this farther … and not shockingly on the very day the POW arrived in Boston .
Can older people be tone deaf ? Yes but I don’t believe this happened the way she is claiming or that there was not a ulterior motive .
EDIT : now she is already using Meghan’s spokesperson omid to get donations to her charity after a traumatic event 🙄