I’d love to know how many permanent positions are being held for teachers on a career break. I know a teacher who moved to Oz and took a 5 year career break but admitted she wasn’t going to go back to teaching.
Sounds sensible. A career break of up to 10 years is crazy.
I can’t see this do much to tackle the staffing shortage.
A majority of career breaks are teachers leaving to work in Asia or the Middle east to save money to buy a house. The only options this leaves those people is to resign or return to Ireland and burn their income on rent.
Should they not just pay more to those in areas with high cost of living? Or offer affordable housing?
Banning breaks could backfire because a lot of people in the likes of Dublin know that teaching doesn’t pay as well as private sector but offers the chance to go and travel for a year or work abroad to afford a deposit on a house. Changing this could just discourage people from choosing teaching or force them to leave.
They will lower the entry requirements, then push the teachers that are taking advantage of the benefits they were given and move them on. Then use all these great new educated ukranian schoolteachers to come in and work as teachers
They don’t even mind messing about marking exams in the summer.
It works for the factory workers and the fruit pickers, why can’t it work for the educated people?
A teacher in my school was told that they wouldn’t get a career break because of the shortage. They said grand, in that case they will just resign. They knew they’d pick up a job no bother on their return, probably even back in the same school. The BOM granted the leave because it’s obviously better to have a teacher out for a year than be permanently down a good teacher.
If somebody needs or wants to take a career break, they will take it, even if it means resigning and reapplying. This ban isn’t going to have much of an influence on staffing issues.
Affordable and available childcare, or extending maternity leave until the child is at least 1 would go some way in cutting down on career breaks; not forcing people to the Middle East to earn a deposit would also help, but it’s not as realistic.
Will Norma Foley be heading back to the classroom? She’s on a career break herself.
Not a job I could do. I have a lot of respect for teachers……but fuckoff.
What do they work 9-3ish? Every weekend off and about 5 months paid holidays every year.
If you want two years off then resign and allow someone else to have the permanent contract.
The solution is to give career breaks but you aren’t guaranteed the same job when you come back. When you come back you go on a panel with priority if there is an open position. In the mean time allow me teachers a chance for a permanent position.
Taking 6 months off to build a house or do a trip around the world with you mates is a career break.
Taking 3yrs off to go working full time as a teacher in Dubai is emigration.
I quit teaching because of the constant short term contracts. There was a sense that the management didn’t want to keep teachers for more than a one year contract because after that you’re basically permanent and they had to keep you.
I know teachers who were department heads in Dublin schools, moved down the country, got a one year contract and then they weren’t kept on at the end of the year. After doing absolutely fantastic work! It was absolutely shocking and demoralising. I’m not surprised they’re struggling to find teachers with the way they treated us.
What about the politicians too. Heh
I gave up my part time teaching job because of Covid. I was asked to return, but hadn’t renewed my Teaching Council Garda clearance, as I wasn’t sure if I would be able to return. It ran out in September 2022 and if I did wish to go back teaching, I would have to start the entire Garda Clearance process, from when I was 18. I asked if I could just provide clearance from September 2022 until now, as all my records would surely be on file. But- a big fat NO. Restart the entire process again… 30 years of addresses etc, having lived abroad for a good portion of the time. I am lucky that I don’t have to go back and could walk away.
I feel sorry for younger teachers. I only wish them well. And hope they do take the opportunity to travel.
1-2yr career break okay, 3 you’re pushing it, 5+ no way! You’re probably not even fit to teach the curriculum after being away for 5+yrs.
Yea the ‘stick’ approach is working so well with nurses.
Sure. Remove one of the few perks of a stressful, low-paid job. I’m sure that’ll fix the problem
If a teacher is doing temp contracts to cover career breaks, does their salary increase each year or do they have to be in a permanent position to get the increase?
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I’d love to know how many permanent positions are being held for teachers on a career break. I know a teacher who moved to Oz and took a 5 year career break but admitted she wasn’t going to go back to teaching.
Sounds sensible. A career break of up to 10 years is crazy.
I can’t see this do much to tackle the staffing shortage.
A majority of career breaks are teachers leaving to work in Asia or the Middle east to save money to buy a house. The only options this leaves those people is to resign or return to Ireland and burn their income on rent.
Should they not just pay more to those in areas with high cost of living? Or offer affordable housing?
Banning breaks could backfire because a lot of people in the likes of Dublin know that teaching doesn’t pay as well as private sector but offers the chance to go and travel for a year or work abroad to afford a deposit on a house. Changing this could just discourage people from choosing teaching or force them to leave.
They will lower the entry requirements, then push the teachers that are taking advantage of the benefits they were given and move them on. Then use all these great new educated ukranian schoolteachers to come in and work as teachers
They don’t even mind messing about marking exams in the summer.
It works for the factory workers and the fruit pickers, why can’t it work for the educated people?
A teacher in my school was told that they wouldn’t get a career break because of the shortage. They said grand, in that case they will just resign. They knew they’d pick up a job no bother on their return, probably even back in the same school. The BOM granted the leave because it’s obviously better to have a teacher out for a year than be permanently down a good teacher.
If somebody needs or wants to take a career break, they will take it, even if it means resigning and reapplying. This ban isn’t going to have much of an influence on staffing issues.
Affordable and available childcare, or extending maternity leave until the child is at least 1 would go some way in cutting down on career breaks; not forcing people to the Middle East to earn a deposit would also help, but it’s not as realistic.
Will Norma Foley be heading back to the classroom? She’s on a career break herself.
Not a job I could do. I have a lot of respect for teachers……but fuckoff.
What do they work 9-3ish? Every weekend off and about 5 months paid holidays every year.
If you want two years off then resign and allow someone else to have the permanent contract.
The solution is to give career breaks but you aren’t guaranteed the same job when you come back. When you come back you go on a panel with priority if there is an open position. In the mean time allow me teachers a chance for a permanent position.
Taking 6 months off to build a house or do a trip around the world with you mates is a career break.
Taking 3yrs off to go working full time as a teacher in Dubai is emigration.
I quit teaching because of the constant short term contracts. There was a sense that the management didn’t want to keep teachers for more than a one year contract because after that you’re basically permanent and they had to keep you.
I know teachers who were department heads in Dublin schools, moved down the country, got a one year contract and then they weren’t kept on at the end of the year. After doing absolutely fantastic work! It was absolutely shocking and demoralising. I’m not surprised they’re struggling to find teachers with the way they treated us.
What about the politicians too. Heh
I gave up my part time teaching job because of Covid. I was asked to return, but hadn’t renewed my Teaching Council Garda clearance, as I wasn’t sure if I would be able to return. It ran out in September 2022 and if I did wish to go back teaching, I would have to start the entire Garda Clearance process, from when I was 18. I asked if I could just provide clearance from September 2022 until now, as all my records would surely be on file. But- a big fat NO. Restart the entire process again… 30 years of addresses etc, having lived abroad for a good portion of the time. I am lucky that I don’t have to go back and could walk away.
I feel sorry for younger teachers. I only wish them well. And hope they do take the opportunity to travel.
1-2yr career break okay, 3 you’re pushing it, 5+ no way! You’re probably not even fit to teach the curriculum after being away for 5+yrs.
Yea the ‘stick’ approach is working so well with nurses.
Sure. Remove one of the few perks of a stressful, low-paid job. I’m sure that’ll fix the problem
If a teacher is doing temp contracts to cover career breaks, does their salary increase each year or do they have to be in a permanent position to get the increase?