Wasn’t that one of the main points for the bill existing?
This whole bill needs to be axed.
Welcome to the hunger games.
For those new to this. Online safety is always about censorship and control. Safety is pure marketing.
Do you trust a government telling you what you can and cant see online?
Do you really think when the porn and whatever else is gone the govt will stop and say “ok its safe now.” Or do you think the definition may change slightly after that?
Going outside can be dangerous, this is the government telling you where you can go outside. Oh wait they did that already ;p
This was never about harmful online content.
This was always about breaking encryption and removing the layers of anonimisation people have online. This was about less privacy, more data collection, and about control.
And this keeps happening because the majority of people buy into the playbook of:
– introduce dodgy new legislation
– relentlessly highlight the One Good Thing in the legislation
– use that to attack critics (“Why do you want to encourage child abuse and suicide???”)
– at the last minute yank the One Good Thing from the Bill, get the legislation pushed through because no-one is paying attention to the shitty bits
I appreciate this news. It is an incredible relief. The UK has been going too far in the direction of running society like a nursery school. It simply should not be the role either of the police or of tech companies to protect people from hurt feelings; and it’s staggering the extent to which we’ve been systematically infantilising certain groups within our population by denying them the chance to develop an internal resilience to social conflict and challenging ideas.
So because one child sought out images of spell harm, we now all have significantly reduced rights online.
Not only have the Tories done this, but Labour want it to go even further lol
Finished country, we need a 1st Amendment
None of them understand what they’re trying to do or why it won’t work.
I’m sure the Russian hackers are overjoyed.
What a surprise. It’s like continuously trying to legislate regulations that are functional to increasing state control over private communications, and that cannot possibly be applied, is bound to fail.
I guess the failure on enacting the Pornography law hasn’t taught anything to them.
Getting strong Alton Bill* vibes from this legislation.
*A Bill in the early 90s that the lib dems introduced and the tories ran with as the press loved it. If it had passed, it would have banned from home viewing any film not suitable for children.
Leaving them to continue to fail to route out harmful content and ban those spreading it. Tech companies just cannot keep up with the ever-increasing number of members spreading harmful content in any form, to the point that they might as well not bother at times. Not that the Tories truly care about this issue, they just wanted to use it to tackle end-to-end encryption. They just saw an opportunity to curtail online freedom and tried to use it for their own nefarious purposes, disguised as caring about the effect of social media on people’ mental health.
The NSPCC heavily support the bill.
However, they knowingly push some of the most vulnerable kids to YouTube, a site recognised in the online harms whitepaper and effectively targeted by the Online Safety Bill.
They seem to want it both ways
– YouTube is safe for kids visiting Childline and seeking support content
– YouTube is not safe and the online safety bill must go through to protect them.
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Wasn’t that one of the main points for the bill existing?
This whole bill needs to be axed.
Welcome to the hunger games.
For those new to this. Online safety is always about censorship and control. Safety is pure marketing.
Do you trust a government telling you what you can and cant see online?
Do you really think when the porn and whatever else is gone the govt will stop and say “ok its safe now.” Or do you think the definition may change slightly after that?
Going outside can be dangerous, this is the government telling you where you can go outside. Oh wait they did that already ;p
This was never about harmful online content.
This was always about breaking encryption and removing the layers of anonimisation people have online. This was about less privacy, more data collection, and about control.
And this keeps happening because the majority of people buy into the playbook of:
– introduce dodgy new legislation
– relentlessly highlight the One Good Thing in the legislation
– use that to attack critics (“Why do you want to encourage child abuse and suicide???”)
– at the last minute yank the One Good Thing from the Bill, get the legislation pushed through because no-one is paying attention to the shitty bits
I appreciate this news. It is an incredible relief. The UK has been going too far in the direction of running society like a nursery school. It simply should not be the role either of the police or of tech companies to protect people from hurt feelings; and it’s staggering the extent to which we’ve been systematically infantilising certain groups within our population by denying them the chance to develop an internal resilience to social conflict and challenging ideas.
So because one child sought out images of spell harm, we now all have significantly reduced rights online.
Not only have the Tories done this, but Labour want it to go even further lol
Finished country, we need a 1st Amendment
None of them understand what they’re trying to do or why it won’t work.
I’m sure the Russian hackers are overjoyed.
What a surprise. It’s like continuously trying to legislate regulations that are functional to increasing state control over private communications, and that cannot possibly be applied, is bound to fail.
I guess the failure on enacting the Pornography law hasn’t taught anything to them.
Getting strong Alton Bill* vibes from this legislation.
*A Bill in the early 90s that the lib dems introduced and the tories ran with as the press loved it. If it had passed, it would have banned from home viewing any film not suitable for children.
Leaving them to continue to fail to route out harmful content and ban those spreading it. Tech companies just cannot keep up with the ever-increasing number of members spreading harmful content in any form, to the point that they might as well not bother at times. Not that the Tories truly care about this issue, they just wanted to use it to tackle end-to-end encryption. They just saw an opportunity to curtail online freedom and tried to use it for their own nefarious purposes, disguised as caring about the effect of social media on people’ mental health.
The NSPCC heavily support the bill.
However, they knowingly push some of the most vulnerable kids to YouTube, a site recognised in the online harms whitepaper and effectively targeted by the Online Safety Bill.
They seem to want it both ways
– YouTube is safe for kids visiting Childline and seeking support content
– YouTube is not safe and the online safety bill must go through to protect them.
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