>BT has announced plans for a pay rise to all but its highest paid staff in a move aimed at resolving a long-running dispute which has led to strikes.
>Discussions with the Communication Workers Union (CWU) and Prospect have led to both unions recommending agreement.
>The company said it will give a £1,500 pay rise for all UK workers who currently earn £50,000 or less from January 1.
>The increase covers all frontline staff and half of managers in the UK.
>Combined with an increase made in April, the total pay rise for the lowest paid will be over 15% since this time last year.
Alan Jones for PA via *Belfast Telegraph*, November 28 2022 14:59 GMT.
This is completely unaffordable and just causes inflation.
-said the government, probably
Strikes work. Another victory for workers. This’ll be common place in the near future and my hope is an all out general strike of workers across the UK to push back and hopefully remove the tories.
Someone please explain this to me – every telecom company somehow raises prices based on the CPI +3.9% (!) each year. But the workers don’t seem to get any pay rise unless they strike. Where the fuck is that money going?
The highest paid are probably getting over 20% pay rises.
It’s almost as if unionized workers can push through stronger collective bargaining!
I had to reread this 3 times to make sure it wasnt a thing I should be angry about
This requires a lot of clarification as the wording from the CWU and BT makes it sound a lot better than what is. In openreach the initial £1500 payment in April this year averages around 3-4% which is below inflation of over 10%. The new deal agrees a rise of another £1500 to start in January which isn’t backdated at all so works out about £400 for this year. Our normal pay review of April each year has now been delayed until September with this pay increase being taken into account. We have lost out on over £1500 to strikes and have been given our pay increase for next year a couple of months early and our future pay review delayed with no promises of a future increase. This is a terrible deal and the unions and media spin on the deal is ridiculous.
2021 – no consolidated pay rise (one off payment of £1200)
2022 – flat pay rise of £1500 (3-4% while inflation is over 10%)
2023 – early pay rise of £1500 (3% with next pay review moved to September with this increase taken into account).
TLDR
lost more through striking and got next years pay increase 3 months early with no promise of any future increase with our next pay review pushed out by 5 months.
do the royal mail and tube next please, fucking useless management there.
The ‘up to’ seems to be doing some heavy lifting here.
I work for BT and this is misleading.
We got no pay rise in April 2021.
April 2022 we receive £1500 (5% for the majority of work force) sparking an industrial dispute.
Today it has been announced that we will receive another £1500 in January 2022 but there will be no pay rise in April 2023.
This is a 10% rise over 3 years putting our pay more than 10% behind inflation when BT have raised their prices 25% over the same period, made record profits and have given 53% of their profits to shareholders this year.
The workers today are outraged at this offer and will most likely be rejected when out to ballot.
Nice one,big up the CWU bring it for the posties next.
What’s missing here is that they are not backdating the payrise and are pushing back the next pay review date by 6 months. This is next years pay rise given 3 months early. The 16% figure is for a small number of staff. Generally people are looking at roughly 5% a year. Still not bad considering but the headline is misleading.
This will be rejected in the union ballet and there will be further strikes
Up to is the key point. Most people are getting a real terms paycut this year.
I guess I’ll see my broadband price going up soon then.
I think this scares me more than inflation. Are they not expecting things to get better anytime soon?
Up to us doing a lot of lifting here
Managers will get 1500 per year provided you are earning under 50000. That’s roughly 50% of managers.
So they (along with Prospect) have come up with a deal that sets half of their managerial staff against the other half.
They’re also putting the next payrise back to Sep23 instead of Apr23
Also remember that over the last three years in total BT gave an aggregate of 2% to those workers in pay increases whilst increasing prices by over 20%.
And that BT have asked the government to subsidise their social tariffs for people on low incomes.
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Excerpt:
>BT has announced plans for a pay rise to all but its highest paid staff in a move aimed at resolving a long-running dispute which has led to strikes.
>Discussions with the Communication Workers Union (CWU) and Prospect have led to both unions recommending agreement.
>The company said it will give a £1,500 pay rise for all UK workers who currently earn £50,000 or less from January 1.
>The increase covers all frontline staff and half of managers in the UK.
>Combined with an increase made in April, the total pay rise for the lowest paid will be over 15% since this time last year.
Alan Jones for PA via *Belfast Telegraph*, November 28 2022 14:59 GMT.
This is completely unaffordable and just causes inflation.
-said the government, probably
Strikes work. Another victory for workers. This’ll be common place in the near future and my hope is an all out general strike of workers across the UK to push back and hopefully remove the tories.
https://www.socialistworld.net/2022/11/24/britain-socialism-2022-weekend-event-a-vital-preparation-for-the-new-era-of-class-struggle/
Someone please explain this to me – every telecom company somehow raises prices based on the CPI +3.9% (!) each year. But the workers don’t seem to get any pay rise unless they strike. Where the fuck is that money going?
The highest paid are probably getting over 20% pay rises.
It’s almost as if unionized workers can push through stronger collective bargaining!
I had to reread this 3 times to make sure it wasnt a thing I should be angry about
This requires a lot of clarification as the wording from the CWU and BT makes it sound a lot better than what is. In openreach the initial £1500 payment in April this year averages around 3-4% which is below inflation of over 10%. The new deal agrees a rise of another £1500 to start in January which isn’t backdated at all so works out about £400 for this year. Our normal pay review of April each year has now been delayed until September with this pay increase being taken into account. We have lost out on over £1500 to strikes and have been given our pay increase for next year a couple of months early and our future pay review delayed with no promises of a future increase. This is a terrible deal and the unions and media spin on the deal is ridiculous.
2021 – no consolidated pay rise (one off payment of £1200)
2022 – flat pay rise of £1500 (3-4% while inflation is over 10%)
2023 – early pay rise of £1500 (3% with next pay review moved to September with this increase taken into account).
TLDR
lost more through striking and got next years pay increase 3 months early with no promise of any future increase with our next pay review pushed out by 5 months.
do the royal mail and tube next please, fucking useless management there.
The ‘up to’ seems to be doing some heavy lifting here.
I work for BT and this is misleading.
We got no pay rise in April 2021.
April 2022 we receive £1500 (5% for the majority of work force) sparking an industrial dispute.
Today it has been announced that we will receive another £1500 in January 2022 but there will be no pay rise in April 2023.
This is a 10% rise over 3 years putting our pay more than 10% behind inflation when BT have raised their prices 25% over the same period, made record profits and have given 53% of their profits to shareholders this year.
The workers today are outraged at this offer and will most likely be rejected when out to ballot.
Nice one,big up the CWU bring it for the posties next.
What’s missing here is that they are not backdating the payrise and are pushing back the next pay review date by 6 months. This is next years pay rise given 3 months early. The 16% figure is for a small number of staff. Generally people are looking at roughly 5% a year. Still not bad considering but the headline is misleading.
This will be rejected in the union ballet and there will be further strikes
Up to is the key point. Most people are getting a real terms paycut this year.
I guess I’ll see my broadband price going up soon then.
I think this scares me more than inflation. Are they not expecting things to get better anytime soon?
Up to us doing a lot of lifting here
Managers will get 1500 per year provided you are earning under 50000. That’s roughly 50% of managers.
So they (along with Prospect) have come up with a deal that sets half of their managerial staff against the other half.
They’re also putting the next payrise back to Sep23 instead of Apr23
Also remember that over the last three years in total BT gave an aggregate of 2% to those workers in pay increases whilst increasing prices by over 20%.
And that BT have asked the government to subsidise their social tariffs for people on low incomes.
And BT generates billions in profit.