Can’t say I’m surprised by that result TBH. IMHO it might be a reasonable middle ground for a transition period though, just to show a certain amount of concession to the significant proportion of the NI population who wouldn’t want a UI.
Stormont itself is a fucking joke though (the institution)
Sounds like a good idea. It’s not like Stormont is working anymore..
Good
in its current form? Sure. But it might help to keep devolution as a way to give hardline unionists a way back into peaceful politics when they inevitably boycott an all-island parliament
They’ve been doing sfa for the last few years haven’t they?
If they were meeting then it’d be useful to have people meeting for their best interests. But it’d be like having a county council that covers 6 counties. Nearly a province council?
I was unaware the people of the French and Czech Republics felt so strongly on the issue.
Stormont won’t go anywhere in a UI, it’s the most practical solution
Is that not the point of uniting Ireland?
Make it into a massive bonfire and burn the fucker down
I’m strongly against anything that perpetuates partition in Ireland or gives special privileges such as vetoes and quotas to unionists in a UI – it defeats the whole purpose of reunification. I suppose we could consider a federal Ireland where each of the provinces had its own assembly, with a nine-county Ulster assembly at Stormont. Maybe we could move some powers currently held by county councils up to the provinces, and have a new constitution which would say among other things that it can only be amended if there is not just an overall majority, but a majority in each province.
In general though I’m really tired of the debate being framed as a zero-sum game where the only question is how much we have to concede to unionists to “compensate” them for the “punishment” of not being in a state that was set up for them to dominate. Any changes we should make should be for the benefit of all people regardless of religion. All citizens should have equal rights and responsibilities in a United Ireland. Anything else, as I said, defeats the whole purpose of reunification
Think it could be used as a regional capital building in the case of a federal political system for a UI
I mean so would I and I’m from belfast
What would be the point of it?
We’d probably abolish the Dáil too given half a chance
Stormont is a fucking disaster
We didn’t get rid of the Seanad when we had the chance. Why would we do this out of anything but spite
Well obviously. There would have to be a new government for the entire country. What am I missing here?
I think a better method would be to keep it, and give it some responsibilities, like fire, police, ambulance. Lots of more of the daily running tasks, like roads, infrastructure. Kinda like a county council but with more power and influence. They should have no control over the law though, that resides with the Dáil.
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Can’t say I’m surprised by that result TBH. IMHO it might be a reasonable middle ground for a transition period though, just to show a certain amount of concession to the significant proportion of the NI population who wouldn’t want a UI.
Stormont itself is a fucking joke though (the institution)
Sounds like a good idea. It’s not like Stormont is working anymore..
Good
in its current form? Sure. But it might help to keep devolution as a way to give hardline unionists a way back into peaceful politics when they inevitably boycott an all-island parliament
They’ve been doing sfa for the last few years haven’t they?
If they were meeting then it’d be useful to have people meeting for their best interests. But it’d be like having a county council that covers 6 counties. Nearly a province council?
I was unaware the people of the French and Czech Republics felt so strongly on the issue.
Stormont won’t go anywhere in a UI, it’s the most practical solution
Is that not the point of uniting Ireland?
Make it into a massive bonfire and burn the fucker down
I’m strongly against anything that perpetuates partition in Ireland or gives special privileges such as vetoes and quotas to unionists in a UI – it defeats the whole purpose of reunification. I suppose we could consider a federal Ireland where each of the provinces had its own assembly, with a nine-county Ulster assembly at Stormont. Maybe we could move some powers currently held by county councils up to the provinces, and have a new constitution which would say among other things that it can only be amended if there is not just an overall majority, but a majority in each province.
In general though I’m really tired of the debate being framed as a zero-sum game where the only question is how much we have to concede to unionists to “compensate” them for the “punishment” of not being in a state that was set up for them to dominate. Any changes we should make should be for the benefit of all people regardless of religion. All citizens should have equal rights and responsibilities in a United Ireland. Anything else, as I said, defeats the whole purpose of reunification
Think it could be used as a regional capital building in the case of a federal political system for a UI
I mean so would I and I’m from belfast
What would be the point of it?
We’d probably abolish the Dáil too given half a chance
Stormont is a fucking disaster
We didn’t get rid of the Seanad when we had the chance. Why would we do this out of anything but spite
Well obviously. There would have to be a new government for the entire country. What am I missing here?
I think a better method would be to keep it, and give it some responsibilities, like fire, police, ambulance. Lots of more of the daily running tasks, like roads, infrastructure. Kinda like a county council but with more power and influence. They should have no control over the law though, that resides with the Dáil.