China isn’t the future imo. 20 years ago maybe, but they’re demographically fucked beyond saving.
Was there ever truly a “golden era” in the first place?
I think not.
At their heart they’re no better than Russia.
– They didn’t keep their promises about Hong Kong.
– They don’t have a problem with genocide and use ‘work’ camps and death camps for minorities.
– They like shiny things like prosperous neighbors they want to take over.
– They’re bullies.
– They’re petty in their diplomacy.
– They steal intellectual property.
– They pollute at will.
The list goes on. Even their allies can’t count on them.
What “Golden Era”?
The one where they replace all our manufacturing capability and supply 5G/Nuclear PS/my chairs?
What a load of hot air this man pours forth.
China makes all our crap, and it’s capitalists like him that made that happen.
I’m going to guess that Rishi sees the UK’s future as being more closely tied to where his family fortune is.
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The United Kingdom doesn’t need trade, thanks to the wisdom of our glorious Tory Leaders.
He is basically using the so called “China’s final warning” – an empty threat, designed to placate the voters (if there are still any), but no real action.
Sunak is such a waste of space.
We need cheap goods and energy to fight inflation.
I don’t understand the government’s approach here. We sanction Russia, restrict trade with China and the EU and then what? Inflation is sky high, we can’t afford this moralising nonsense.
We need to be more than just an open-air museum and refugee centre for the USA.
So, everyone, what was your favourite moment from the golden age of UK-China relations? I mean, there are just so many to choose from.
My startup tracks how global news events are being covered across the world, and we’ve identified two opposing perspectives that are spreading on this topic. **Note**: we don’t defend that both perspectives always have the same weight, but believe it’s important to be aware of how the two sides are being portrayed.
**Perspectives that praise Sunak’s speech**:
– Sunak said Britain would not choose the status quo and would confront international competitors “not with grand rhetoric but with robust pragmatism”.
– ”We’re a country that stands up for our values, that defends democracy by actions not just words”, Sunak noted.
– Sunak used tough language to rebuke previous UK governments’ approach to China, saying he would reject “short-termism or wishful thinking”.
**Perspectives critical of Sunak’s speech**:
– At the same time, Sunak reiterated the UK’s commitment to a free trade agreement (FTA) with another international competitor: India.
– “All it shows is that once again the Conservative government is flip-flopping its rhetoric on China”, the Labour Party’s foreign affairs spokesman said.
– Lawmaker Iain Duncan Smith, a former Conservative Party leader and vocal China critic, said Sunak’s “robust pragmatism” meant “anything you want it to mean” and amounted to “appeasement.”
They’ve dropped us like an old worn out toy. Left behind in austerity
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China isn’t the future imo. 20 years ago maybe, but they’re demographically fucked beyond saving.
Was there ever truly a “golden era” in the first place?
I think not.
At their heart they’re no better than Russia.
– They didn’t keep their promises about Hong Kong.
– They don’t have a problem with genocide and use ‘work’ camps and death camps for minorities.
– They like shiny things like prosperous neighbors they want to take over.
– They’re bullies.
– They’re petty in their diplomacy.
– They steal intellectual property.
– They pollute at will.
The list goes on. Even their allies can’t count on them.
What “Golden Era”?
The one where they replace all our manufacturing capability and supply 5G/Nuclear PS/my chairs?
What a load of hot air this man pours forth.
China makes all our crap, and it’s capitalists like him that made that happen.
I’m going to guess that Rishi sees the UK’s future as being more closely tied to where his family fortune is.
[deleted]
The United Kingdom doesn’t need trade, thanks to the wisdom of our glorious Tory Leaders.
He is basically using the so called “China’s final warning” – an empty threat, designed to placate the voters (if there are still any), but no real action.
Sunak is such a waste of space.
We need cheap goods and energy to fight inflation.
I don’t understand the government’s approach here. We sanction Russia, restrict trade with China and the EU and then what? Inflation is sky high, we can’t afford this moralising nonsense.
We need to be more than just an open-air museum and refugee centre for the USA.
So, everyone, what was your favourite moment from the golden age of UK-China relations? I mean, there are just so many to choose from.
Find other coverage on this topic here:
– [Associated Press – UK’s Rishi Sunak says ‘golden era’ with China over](https://apnews.com/article/british-politics-europe-china-london-foreign-policy-d6272bd8986acf234091f10912db132e)
– [The Telegraph – Britain’s ‘golden era’ of close engagement with China over, says Rishi Sunak](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/11/28/britains-golden-era-close-engagement-china-says-rishi-sunak/)
My startup tracks how global news events are being covered across the world, and we’ve identified two opposing perspectives that are spreading on this topic. **Note**: we don’t defend that both perspectives always have the same weight, but believe it’s important to be aware of how the two sides are being portrayed.
**Perspectives that praise Sunak’s speech**:
– Sunak said Britain would not choose the status quo and would confront international competitors “not with grand rhetoric but with robust pragmatism”.
– ”We’re a country that stands up for our values, that defends democracy by actions not just words”, Sunak noted.
– Sunak used tough language to rebuke previous UK governments’ approach to China, saying he would reject “short-termism or wishful thinking”.
**Perspectives critical of Sunak’s speech**:
– At the same time, Sunak reiterated the UK’s commitment to a free trade agreement (FTA) with another international competitor: India.
– “All it shows is that once again the Conservative government is flip-flopping its rhetoric on China”, the Labour Party’s foreign affairs spokesman said.
– Lawmaker Iain Duncan Smith, a former Conservative Party leader and vocal China critic, said Sunak’s “robust pragmatism” meant “anything you want it to mean” and amounted to “appeasement.”
They’ve dropped us like an old worn out toy. Left behind in austerity