Nothing will happen with it the other clowns will support him like always
I expect a lot of “waste of time” comments from people who don’t really get how Dáil time works. All parties get a slot where they can put down a motion or a bill. You get stuff like [motions that are just an excuse to debate energy prices again](https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2022-11-16a.32) or another debate on [social and affordable housing that the Minister won’t even show up to talk about](https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2022-10-26a.27).
Sometimes these get picked up in the media, but mostly they don’t. Motions of Confidence always do. They become a media event, and every government TD will be required to be there and all Ministers will be forced to stand up and defend the record of the Minister. Every time that happens it forces them to expend political capital defending an unpopular minister.
The last government fell because a motion was going to be put down on confidence in Simon Harris (looking back [this sub thought that was a waste of time and would accomplish nothing)](https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/ape9bx/_/). This followed a motion before the holidays on confidence in Eoghan Murphy, and the constant effort to have to defend increasingly unpopular ministers and failing policies eventually peeled off enough support to force an election.
Yes, this motion won’t pass. That’s fine, the only real problem is that it insulates O’Brien from a motion for another six months. It will force the issue of housing front and center in the media right before the holidays and handover of the Taoiseach’s office. It will determine the extent of the government’s majority, and whether that has decreased.
It’s as good a use of Private Members Time as any.
He’ll lose the vote just in time for some festive cheer. And next year whoever takes the mantle will still be as utterly useless.
PBP wanting a bit of publicity before the holidays.
Defending him will be hard, like every other housing minister of the last 12 years.
Fact is he won’t lose the vote, won’t lose a night’s sleep over rising homelessness, will go home to his probably fairly big house with his fairly large salary. He won’t lose his job over poor performance like someone on the street when a company like Twitter fucks them out overnight.
EDIT: For clarity, I don’t mean the Twitter employees were doing a bad job just mean they were fucked out overnight.
I know this is unpopular, but I see his policies working. All around there are houses being started, being finished / sold and planning applications are bring put up like have never seen.
Sure housing is great rn, but it wont get better unless they build, which they are.
How does this work? And is it possible to contact the people determining the result so the average person can make their voice heard?
About time..
He’s got some neck!
A coalition of Fianna Faill and Fine Gael is clearly not working, I think it’s high time we completely changed things around, and had a coalition of Fine Gael and Fianna Faill instead. /s
Is that the mad lad from the Young Offenders?
And as usual, Nothing will Happen. We’ll have the usual suspects [John McGuinness] running their mouths in local media. Only to turn around and tow party line.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned from here it’s that people really the think the minister for something has complete control over every facet of that brief. DCC won’t stop objecting with a new housing minister, locals won’t stop etc.
There’s a thin line between “minister for” and “scapegoat for”.
I have said it for years. The republic doesn’t work. We need a strong dictatorship for 10 years to get things going.
18 comments
What a waste of time
Nothing will happen with it the other clowns will support him like always
I expect a lot of “waste of time” comments from people who don’t really get how Dáil time works. All parties get a slot where they can put down a motion or a bill. You get stuff like [motions that are just an excuse to debate energy prices again](https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2022-11-16a.32) or another debate on [social and affordable housing that the Minister won’t even show up to talk about](https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2022-10-26a.27).
Sometimes these get picked up in the media, but mostly they don’t. Motions of Confidence always do. They become a media event, and every government TD will be required to be there and all Ministers will be forced to stand up and defend the record of the Minister. Every time that happens it forces them to expend political capital defending an unpopular minister.
The last government fell because a motion was going to be put down on confidence in Simon Harris (looking back [this sub thought that was a waste of time and would accomplish nothing)](https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/ape9bx/_/). This followed a motion before the holidays on confidence in Eoghan Murphy, and the constant effort to have to defend increasingly unpopular ministers and failing policies eventually peeled off enough support to force an election.
Yes, this motion won’t pass. That’s fine, the only real problem is that it insulates O’Brien from a motion for another six months. It will force the issue of housing front and center in the media right before the holidays and handover of the Taoiseach’s office. It will determine the extent of the government’s majority, and whether that has decreased.
It’s as good a use of Private Members Time as any.
He’ll lose the vote just in time for some festive cheer. And next year whoever takes the mantle will still be as utterly useless.
PBP wanting a bit of publicity before the holidays.
Defending him will be hard, like every other housing minister of the last 12 years.
Fact is he won’t lose the vote, won’t lose a night’s sleep over rising homelessness, will go home to his probably fairly big house with his fairly large salary. He won’t lose his job over poor performance like someone on the street when a company like Twitter fucks them out overnight.
EDIT: For clarity, I don’t mean the Twitter employees were doing a bad job just mean they were fucked out overnight.
I know this is unpopular, but I see his policies working. All around there are houses being started, being finished / sold and planning applications are bring put up like have never seen.
Sure housing is great rn, but it wont get better unless they build, which they are.
How does this work? And is it possible to contact the people determining the result so the average person can make their voice heard?
About time..
He’s got some neck!
A coalition of Fianna Faill and Fine Gael is clearly not working, I think it’s high time we completely changed things around, and had a coalition of Fine Gael and Fianna Faill instead. /s
Is that the mad lad from the Young Offenders?
And as usual, Nothing will Happen. We’ll have the usual suspects [John McGuinness] running their mouths in local media. Only to turn around and tow party line.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned from here it’s that people really the think the minister for something has complete control over every facet of that brief. DCC won’t stop objecting with a new housing minister, locals won’t stop etc.
There’s a thin line between “minister for” and “scapegoat for”.
I have said it for years. The republic doesn’t work. We need a strong dictatorship for 10 years to get things going.
