First two are a bit misleading there, Clearys has only just had the scaffolding removed and it’s in active development and the Aib building has a sale agreed sign on it.
The others it’s probably down to planning permissions for redevelopment (the hole one certainly is)
Just had a flash back to an old Billy Connolly joke
The planning process is ridiculous and very inefficient.
I heard massive shopping center is going in along up O’Connell st so their in the process of buying up property
It’s all the fault of us arseholes who work from home, you see!
Regardless of the OP accuracy the derelict and empty property phenomena is rampant in Ireland as there’s not enough of a stick to compel owners to use/sell or lose it. While some locations may be tied up in legal wrangles most are owned by ppl who are rich enough to “bide their time” while dragging down the wider community. It’s really time to get pretty ruthless with hoarders
It’s kinda crazy looking at this. Back in 2014 I was in 3 of these buildings in a single day around Christmas. I worked for Eircom in Telephone House, I went to deposit a cheque in the AIB, and then went to buy a jacket in Clerys.
Don’t draw attention to them, the government slumlords will fill em with with male Algerian migrants
Looks like progress
Anyone know what clearys is being turned into?
Because you cant knock them down. Dublin is a kip. When we were fighting for freedom they didnt say “lets not hide in the gpo in case the pretty building gets destroyed”, they were ready to rip the city to the ground if it meant a better life for Dublin people.
They need to accept the future is green cars, to get ahead of it, have large in and out ramps to car parks under every building, so traffic does not have to stop every time a car wants to enter a carpark, and let them build up.
Bring in several different rental price caps. Job done. It would mean “Yeah i can buy clearys or the gpo, knock it down, I can make 10k rent on each floor, I can go up 35 floors, that means the current land is worth x and not a penny more”.
Pennys owns independent house it was bought by the Arnotts group in the Boom for 26 million and then, when the crash came Penny’s bought it for 6 million. They have let it rot for nearly 10 years. The government tried to make it a vacant property but Penny’s managed to stop that by putting some clothes hangers in and said it was a store facility. It’s a complete mess inside full of dead pigeons and rats.
Because the city council is useless.
Developers want to build up. Council don’t want to allow anything over 5 floors.
So all planning gets stuck in the courts and cost us more money.
Land banking possibly.
The state should be able to buy derelict properties at a salvage cost based on the left derelict . So you get five years Brexit the state takes a look. Then you get an extra year to complete any refurbishment according to planning permission. If you haven’t finished by the sixth year then the state can buy the plot and building at the same baseline price as agricultural land.
Use it is lose it
AFAIK none of the 1st and above floors on Abbey St and around can be used for anything because of our super strict fire safety regs and litigious nature as a country/city. Imagine how many apartments we could have in those spaces in the middle of the city where people want to live and where having a population around would make the place feel much safer.
We are risk averse to our massive detriment as a society. People need to be considered responsible for their own safety, maybe even a German style insurance system should be looked into.
Everything dosnt need to be housing! Why is there so many green fields outside Dublin. As everybody wants cheap affordable housing close to the city. If affordable housing was offered in mullingar,would you take it?
Foreign and wealthy interests buying property and not really caring if it doesn’t anything. It’s just an asset to bide their time on.
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Clearys isn’t empty
That’s under construction, major works going on
First two are a bit misleading there, Clearys has only just had the scaffolding removed and it’s in active development and the Aib building has a sale agreed sign on it.
The others it’s probably down to planning permissions for redevelopment (the hole one certainly is)
Just had a flash back to an old Billy Connolly joke
The planning process is ridiculous and very inefficient.
I heard massive shopping center is going in along up O’Connell st so their in the process of buying up property
It’s all the fault of us arseholes who work from home, you see!
Regardless of the OP accuracy the derelict and empty property phenomena is rampant in Ireland as there’s not enough of a stick to compel owners to use/sell or lose it. While some locations may be tied up in legal wrangles most are owned by ppl who are rich enough to “bide their time” while dragging down the wider community. It’s really time to get pretty ruthless with hoarders
It’s kinda crazy looking at this. Back in 2014 I was in 3 of these buildings in a single day around Christmas. I worked for Eircom in Telephone House, I went to deposit a cheque in the AIB, and then went to buy a jacket in Clerys.
Don’t draw attention to them, the government slumlords will fill em with with male Algerian migrants
Looks like progress
Anyone know what clearys is being turned into?
Because you cant knock them down. Dublin is a kip. When we were fighting for freedom they didnt say “lets not hide in the gpo in case the pretty building gets destroyed”, they were ready to rip the city to the ground if it meant a better life for Dublin people.
They need to accept the future is green cars, to get ahead of it, have large in and out ramps to car parks under every building, so traffic does not have to stop every time a car wants to enter a carpark, and let them build up.
Bring in several different rental price caps. Job done. It would mean “Yeah i can buy clearys or the gpo, knock it down, I can make 10k rent on each floor, I can go up 35 floors, that means the current land is worth x and not a penny more”.
Pennys owns independent house it was bought by the Arnotts group in the Boom for 26 million and then, when the crash came Penny’s bought it for 6 million. They have let it rot for nearly 10 years. The government tried to make it a vacant property but Penny’s managed to stop that by putting some clothes hangers in and said it was a store facility. It’s a complete mess inside full of dead pigeons and rats.
Because the city council is useless.
Developers want to build up. Council don’t want to allow anything over 5 floors.
So all planning gets stuck in the courts and cost us more money.
Land banking possibly.
The state should be able to buy derelict properties at a salvage cost based on the left derelict . So you get five years Brexit the state takes a look. Then you get an extra year to complete any refurbishment according to planning permission. If you haven’t finished by the sixth year then the state can buy the plot and building at the same baseline price as agricultural land.
Use it is lose it
AFAIK none of the 1st and above floors on Abbey St and around can be used for anything because of our super strict fire safety regs and litigious nature as a country/city. Imagine how many apartments we could have in those spaces in the middle of the city where people want to live and where having a population around would make the place feel much safer.
We are risk averse to our massive detriment as a society. People need to be considered responsible for their own safety, maybe even a German style insurance system should be looked into.
Everything dosnt need to be housing! Why is there so many green fields outside Dublin. As everybody wants cheap affordable housing close to the city. If affordable housing was offered in mullingar,would you take it?
Foreign and wealthy interests buying property and not really caring if it doesn’t anything. It’s just an asset to bide their time on.
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