This is a building site in Malaysia. The building is about 60+ stories with (I’m guessing) 10 apartments on each floor. It’s the usual set up with shops on the first few floors and nearby parks.

If Ireland put 10 of these up and built a reasonable amount of schools and parks… Well that would be that.

Obvious point, but it out housing issues seem so small when you look at the scale of housing projects high population countries in Asia kick off as a matter of course

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  2. What are the apartments like inside?

    How much does one cost (as a whole and per apartment) to build in a location with sufficient amenities?

    How many people can each apartment accomodate?

    Would they be used for social housing or built by the government and put on the rental market to increase supply and lower rents?

  3. Where? I understand the need for more practical housing than currently exists, but these would be insane. Imagine being one of the lucky people that has their home put into perpetual darkness?

  6. I thought about this a few years ago when I was staying in a similar complex that had over 1000 units. It isn’t possible in Ireland though. The costs would be astronomical when compared to what it costs to build in SEA.

    For starters, everything in Malaysia is built by people from Bangladesh and Nepal who earn fuck all. The building regs and building safety standards are nothing compared to Ireland either.

    Plus, Malaysia has a tropical climate. We do not. Insulating the units to stand up to Irish winters is another massive cost they don’t have to deal with.

  7. Objection. I own a field in Roscommon that would be more appropriate for this sort of development.

  8. 60+ floors would be too much, quality of life would suffer, plus we don’t have a metro, which makes it even more complicated. Let’s start with building 10-15 floor blocks first.

  9. Thank you for posting this!🙂. I know it’s bad of me, but I had such a massive giggling fit! All I could think of was the look on some of my neighbours’ faces if they heard some one had applied for planning permission for this beside them!🙂

    On a more serious note, it’s time we stopped being so afraid of tall buildings in this country. Other countries can make them work, I’m sure we could too. 🙂

  12. 10 blocks of 60 storeys at 10 per floor is 6000 units. We need around 35000 units per year so this wouldn’t come close to solving it

  13. Love it.

    “We have a housing crisis, someone do something!”

    What about building multistorey apartment complex?

    Nah it looks like social housing apartments built back in the 60s that ultimately got destroyed and rebuilt.

  14. I agree that more building needs to be done however the amount of deralict buildings in the country is a sham. It’s wrecking the countries city’s and towns having ghost streets with nobody in them. Some of them for example the Georgian buildings are beautiful and it’s such a shame a lot of them are going to waste. Dublin has loads of vacant buildings where the owner landlord has done nothing with them for quite some time. Personally if they are empty up to a point I think they should be taxed out the hole to put them off sitting on empty property as a means of investment. The big tall high rises aren’t really fixing the base issue and also once your go past so many stories in height it becomes less environmentally friendly . Low rise high density buildings between 6 – 10 stories high are actually more beneficial in building. You can see this looking at other european cities like Paris for example . You can put low rise buildings closer together than sky scrapers therefore making more use of the land and also providing a better way of living for people and for the city. Lower emissions is important in urban living.

  17. If that would happen, the rents wouldn’t go up, the maintenance will be lower, things will be normal.

    And when things are normal and balanced there’s a small group of people that doesn’t earn tons of money.

    That problem must remain and the “house crisis” must happen… there are certain problems that must continue to be a problem, “can’t be solved”.

  18. On the night of Census 2022 in April of this year, there were 166,752 vacant dwellings and 66,135 unoccupied holiday homes.

    Maybe start with that low hanging fruit…

  20. There is something like that at Becon around Sandyford in Dublin. It seem to be more of an Art installation to remind us all of the mistakes made during the Celtic Tiger than a structure that anyone would actually live in.

  23. I don’t think it would solve the housing crisis. Cause these would be labelled as luxury condos and would be priced accordingly. What Ireland needs is better rent control and more buildings. They don’t have to be skyscrapers, just regular buildings with 5 6 floors. And a damn better control of landlords.

    More options for unfurnished apartments would also be helpful for people that have pets.

  24. 60’000 people need homes (as in are either homeless, or reliant on government aid such as HAP)

    There are 160’000 odd empty homes at any one time in Ireland. Not all are ready for housing people but this is only for the same reason they aren’t being used. They have been left empty by privately owned parties to increase the value over time without needing to necessarily devalue the home with potential tenant’s.

    This would add only 6000 new apartments (very sizable for sure) but equally not going to service more than at most 24’000 people (4 per apartment, a really big stretch by any estimate) even still this wouldn’t even make a difference as the government continue to allow private organisations to buy these apartments up, thus never actually driving down the housing costs and thus the market value (which the investment companies definitively don’t want).

  25. >If Ireland put 10 of these up and built a reasonable amount of schools and parks

    Ah yeah, all so simple. Go back to bed ya numpty.

  27. There’s area’s close to Dublin South Central that are just Industrial Estates – When you drive down parts of the Long Mile Road, Kylemore and Greenhills that I always felt should be rezoned for highrises instead of mostly factories.

  28. How much do u think a brand new 3 bedroom condo is going to cost in any city in ireland? I’m thinking we’ll over 600k , itl be bought as an investment and rented for about 3.5k plus p/m. The problem is affordable housing not just any housing.

  29. Nice on paper but there are a few reasons why this isn’t a good idea. Firstly we aren’t equipped for high rises and the fire service has no equipment to deal with fires in buildings like these. Secondly high density living generally increases antisocial behavior and places strain on electrical grids.

    this is a piece i found interesting on high rise living.

    “Worryingly, there is convincing evidence showing adverse mental health consequences from increasing density. A monumental Swedish study of over four million Swedes showed that the rate for schizophrenia is 70% greater in denser areas and there is also a 16% greater risk of depression. Another analysis, in the prestigious journal Nature, discusses urban neural social stress. It states that the incidence of schizophrenia is twice as high in cities. Brain area activity differences associated with urbanisation have been found. There is evidence of a dose-response relationship that probably reflects causation.”

  30. I watched a really interesting documentary about these kinds of towers. It was from the perspective of police man named dredd. in fact he was a judge. I wasn’t impressed with the health and safety. Especially when the Gatling gun was ripping through apartments

  33. I don’t even think 60 stories are needed. I live in a 25 story place. Four buildings, I posted it here before and it works out to around 1100 apartments if I remember right. A mix of two and three beds.

    Twenty-five stories, not too tall to freak people out. Shops, cafes, hairdressers etc on the bottom two floors. Pool etc. It’s chill and affordable.

    The utter opposition to anything with more than four stories is bonkers.

  35. Agreed. I lived is something like this in Vietnam. Beautiful cheap apartment with an amazing view and there was a large grocery shop, gym and swimming pool in the bottom floor, just go down a lift. If there was a simular option in Ireland I would move in an instant.

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