Can Just Stop Oil make the case for protest? – The climate activists know their tactics make people angry — and they believe that’s a price worth paying

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  2. Two sentences really.

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    They are not the suffragettes.

    They require support from the general public if they actually want to force anyone in positions of power to actually do anything.

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    I think that’s basically all that needs to be said to explain why these protests just won’t get anyone anywhere.

  4. 84% of people are already concerned of climate change in UK according to polls. The case for working against climate change is well known and strong. UK as a whole is doing quite well in reducing carbon footprint.

    What Just Stop Oil is doing is, in my opinion, having the opposite desired effect. It gives the image to the whole movement a counter intuitive image and turns away the hard earned public support garnered over the years.

    Climate change movement should continue to garner the image of something that is a common understanding, and not that of a radical image. We already passed that stage of having to be a radical. It’s time to consolidate the common ground. All of the public disruptions would have been fine on a quieter year without all the ongoing troubles. We are living through an exceptional time. The movement looks absurd to a large portion of the people struggling with cost of living, and we are at a danger of seriously turning these people away for good from supporting climate change related costs.

  5. A price worth to buy what?

    If they aren’t getting the people on side and they aren’t inciting any change in policy and they aren’t convincing any climate deniers to change their minds and they aren’t imparting any information that people don’t already know, then what is all the anger buying?

    How can getting arrested and angering people be “worth it” if they aren’t getting anything in return for the cost?

  6. If I was a large oil company, I would secretly pay people like Just Stop Oil to do exactly what they are doing to put people off renewables.

  7. What I find totally odd about s the worlds ability to see covid as a major disaster that resulted in shutting economies down cost billions and billions.

    Yet the climate crisis if you believe in some reports will end civilisation yet nothing happens.

    I won’t knock these people I remember going to bed after watching the ozone layer program when I was 8.

    It said the hole would soon be big enough to kill the planet meaning I had about 15 years to live. I was so scared I would have chained myself to random stuff to

  9. Of course they can make the case for protest. I do think they should leave the roads alone, but anyone who thinks there’s no cause for protest at all here must have some incredible head-burying tekkers at this point.

    Even if this country hypothetically was doing everything it reasonably can do to transition away from dirty energy, protests would still be useful to keep complacency at bay and serve as a constant reminder of the urgency of the issue. It’s a democratic function.

  10. If they really want to be rid of oil, they should lead by example. They should refrain from using any and everything created, powdered by or reliant on oil. I give the toughest of them 4 days

  11. What strikes me about their tactics is that they are too disruptive for the government to give into them.

    If the government decided that the protesters are right (be it XR or just stop oil), then the danger is that any other group with a valid (or non valid) cause are going to try the same disruptive tactics to achieve their aims. That’s why the government cannot give into them or even seem to give into them

    So the protesters must realise that by effectively holding the government to ransom they make it impossible for them to give in.

    So although these disruptive tactics bring attention to the cause, they also make it LESS likely to achieve the group’s aims, then why use them ?

  12. Yes but you should be trying to get people on your side and not pissing everyone off because you’re some rebel without a clue.

  13. Did anyone Catch the EarthShot Awards!?……..they were great, But unfortunately it was another veil of lies from the British Monarchy and Government. See, if the UK was serious about Climate action. Then they wouldn’t have signed new Contracts for oil drilling, give the go ahead to Coal mining, and Fracking just to sell the product world wide……not for British people, but to line their own pockets.
    China’s protests were applauded by Rishi Sunak While he attended a Lords Banquet. But here we are having laws tightened or even a new law being introduced. Wake up Britain, we should be stood with Just Stop Oil not against them.

  14. I think there’s relative consensus on climate change in the Uk. JSO can do the protests with little legal ramifications and it can educate people. There are few electoral downsides.
    In the US where I’m at, these type of tactics would feed the right and would lose elections. It doesn’t happen.
    Each country has strategies that work for them. In the us the lobbying approach means I get lots of credits to put in insulation, heat pumps, solar, drive EV; and it’s sold on being cheap. In the UK, clearly they’ve decided a different approach is needed.

  15. > She was released within days, because, like many suffragettes, she started a hunger strike that left the authorities with no good options.

    What the fuck. Going on hunger strike should not mean you get out early from a 6month sentence. What fucking world are we living in.

    Why do I also get the impression that a male offender wouldn’t get the same luxury.

  17. Amazing that their employers have given them so much time off in order to pursue this cause….. oh wait, never mind.

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