Another fear mongering scam by the private run media, said it from the start. Like who would take needles and inject someone when there’s ket or valium ghb in powder and liquid form. Don’t believe these news outlets they’ll go the lowest of the low for views and clicks.
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People waking up after a heavy night’s drinking, not remembering much and finding a bruise or what appeared to be a puncture wound on random parts of their body that included hands, arms and back. Not one proven case in Liverpool where I work. The most commonly used substance to take advantage of others for sexual purposes has and always will be alcohol.
they investigated this but couldn’t find the pricks?
I got downvoted for calling BS on the story at the time. It was so obviously a non story as anyone who ever had or given an injection would know that you cannot realistically inject someone without their knowledge and them resisting.
I don’t think anyone ever suggested what substance they could possibly have been spiked with: something that can knock out an adult, is reasonably available to a dedicated creep who lacks contact with the Russian embassy, and yet the dose is deliverable in such a small volume via subcutaneous or intramuscular injection that it can be administered quickly without the victim noticing. I’m not sure such a drug exists.
I just assumed it started with kids who had heard the term “spiked” in relation to drinks and had completely misunderstood.
Well my mate Janice said on fb that her cousins friend saw it happen twice, so explain that so called police!
The amount of times I’ve pointed out on here there hasn’t been one confirmed case, and that they all happened to begin days apart from another in cities all across the UK.
Unless there was some rapist convention that year where the number 1 takeaway was “worst way to try and drug someone without them noticing”, this was never going to have been true. Media hysteria at it’s purest.
So many people called this bullshit at the time and so many got into arguments with idiots over it.
Of course it was never happening, it was always nonsense
People called this bullshit at the time on reddit and got called rape apologists.
One thing this demonstrates is that if an idea takes hold then a lot of people including the authorities just don’t want to be seen to stand against it, so they end up doing press conferences to demonstrate concern. A minority were on reddit trying to explain just unlikely this was and posting an NHS study about claims of spiking in one A&E and got jumped on because people sort of wanted this to be true or at least wanted to shouting about it.
There never was – actual spiking is incredibly rare. It’s often down to the individual simply drinking too much.
LOL this psyop worked really well here last year when it was introduced. Everyone was banging on about rape culture and toxic masculinity, amazing. Got downvoted to fuck for saying it sounded like a big bunch of bollocks.
I don’t trust the media and I don’t trust the police. Happy Christmas everyone and be careful out there.
I was working in a pathology lab when this was in the news and we regularly had police come to collect stored serum samples of victims.
Obviously supported it, but remember being conflicted with the need to take this seriously on the one hand, and on the other the fact that I couldn’t believe a criminal could be so reckless doing this when there are other ways of spiking people.
Needles found when frisking, people realising they’re being pricked… vs. dropping some powder in a drink. Genuinely couldn’t believe someone who put thought into spiking would ever consider it.
Always had the hallmarks of mass psychogenic illness, disease with common psychogenic symptoms or symptoms with an otherwise obvious explanation, no reasonable physical explanation and an outbreak that seemingly spreads rapidly after a well publicised media report leading to hundreds of cases of a previously unreported condition and grows as media coverage grows.
There was another example recently with first responders in the US treating opiate overdoses and then experiencing “fentanyl poisoning” with symptoms that did not match opiate toxicity and no physical explanation as to how fentanyl would have entered their bodies. No one ever wants to believe they were a victim of mass panic either.
Why would rapists start using injection when police aren’t even able to stop drinks being spiked?
You can’t inject someone just by stabbing them in the arse with a syringe!
It doesn’t matter that it isn’t true, it’ll become part of common folklore anyway, just like nightclub drink spiking has. That’s how moral panics work.
If the police say it then it must be true! After all, the police in the uk aren’t known rapists/murderers of women or anything are they?
We know. It was utterly implausible.
Now, where have all the people gone in the last threads when this nonsense started, saying they had been spiked or knew a girl who knew a girl who got drunk but just passed out once complaining of spiking by injection?
As it happens I was thinking this over recently- the Idea of ‘spikings’ does sound like a kind of cultural syndrome seemingly only reported by university students, possibly young people being away from home for the first time and lockdown lifting?
I did suspect it was overblown and police were taking it overly seriously due to political pressure and a need to be ‘seen to do something to protect the innocent’.
[the adult equivalent of this?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-care_sex-abuse_hysteria)
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How many of these alleged spikings are caused by students getting pissed for the first time and then blaming someone else?
This whole sorry story has come about because a few drunk idiots wouldn’t listen to reason. Despite being repeatedly told that this was highly improbable, impractical and likely impossible, they convinced themselves they had been targeted by Ninjas, rather than injuring themselves via the medium of alcohol. Disappointing that the media tried to push this as well.
We all knew this….
Drink spiking itself is incredibly rare, NHS have done studies every 5 years or so when students claim they’re being spiked in droves.
Every time we see the vastly majority with toxicology showing dangerous levels of alcohol in their system.
Out of the remainder with drugs detected in their system, the majority in A&E admit to consuming them consensually.
Going from the top of my head, out of the multiple studies of those tested within 24hours, usually in A&E, less than 10% of those who think they have been spiked have the ‘potential’ for this to be true.
And the final kicker? Police have found when people are spiked it’s usually down to friends doing it for non-sexual purposes (normally for a laugh) and at private parties, not bars and clubs.
Now add needle spiking? Hell no! Why the hell would a predator go to that much effort when they can just use alcohol with little to no suspicion?
I’m shocked i tells ya, shocked. This seemed like such an unlikely mode of attack from the start.
Missed this one, this seems like another example of journalists taking a tweet or instagram post and using it as hard evidence to get rage for increased revenue.
If so incredibly sad.
I believe the woman that went round the chat shows, news and I think parliament(?).
Definitely seemed like the drugs hadn’t worn off yet.
This crap is all over tiktok, so many girls just straight lying for views. Look it up. Even saying they were spiked multiple times. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve called them out lol
The police recently apologised to a girl for failing to give her the results to a test where she was spiked by injecting morphine.
So why is anyone believing the police?
Over a thousand cases reported in Spain during the summer but not a single one confirmed.A moral panic spreading & guaranteeing clicks despite medical experts saying that any injection leading to the effects reported would have to be intravenous & need a big needle.
Thank god, I’ve been telling anyone who will listen that this is nonsense from the start.
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Another fear mongering scam by the private run media, said it from the start. Like who would take needles and inject someone when there’s ket or valium ghb in powder and liquid form. Don’t believe these news outlets they’ll go the lowest of the low for views and clicks.
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People waking up after a heavy night’s drinking, not remembering much and finding a bruise or what appeared to be a puncture wound on random parts of their body that included hands, arms and back. Not one proven case in Liverpool where I work. The most commonly used substance to take advantage of others for sexual purposes has and always will be alcohol.
they investigated this but couldn’t find the pricks?
I got downvoted for calling BS on the story at the time. It was so obviously a non story as anyone who ever had or given an injection would know that you cannot realistically inject someone without their knowledge and them resisting.
I don’t think anyone ever suggested what substance they could possibly have been spiked with: something that can knock out an adult, is reasonably available to a dedicated creep who lacks contact with the Russian embassy, and yet the dose is deliverable in such a small volume via subcutaneous or intramuscular injection that it can be administered quickly without the victim noticing. I’m not sure such a drug exists.
I just assumed it started with kids who had heard the term “spiked” in relation to drinks and had completely misunderstood.
Well my mate Janice said on fb that her cousins friend saw it happen twice, so explain that so called police!
The amount of times I’ve pointed out on here there hasn’t been one confirmed case, and that they all happened to begin days apart from another in cities all across the UK.
Unless there was some rapist convention that year where the number 1 takeaway was “worst way to try and drug someone without them noticing”, this was never going to have been true. Media hysteria at it’s purest.
So many people called this bullshit at the time and so many got into arguments with idiots over it.
Of course it was never happening, it was always nonsense
People called this bullshit at the time on reddit and got called rape apologists.
One thing this demonstrates is that if an idea takes hold then a lot of people including the authorities just don’t want to be seen to stand against it, so they end up doing press conferences to demonstrate concern. A minority were on reddit trying to explain just unlikely this was and posting an NHS study about claims of spiking in one A&E and got jumped on because people sort of wanted this to be true or at least wanted to shouting about it.
There never was – actual spiking is incredibly rare. It’s often down to the individual simply drinking too much.
LOL this psyop worked really well here last year when it was introduced. Everyone was banging on about rape culture and toxic masculinity, amazing. Got downvoted to fuck for saying it sounded like a big bunch of bollocks.
I don’t trust the media and I don’t trust the police. Happy Christmas everyone and be careful out there.
I was working in a pathology lab when this was in the news and we regularly had police come to collect stored serum samples of victims.
Obviously supported it, but remember being conflicted with the need to take this seriously on the one hand, and on the other the fact that I couldn’t believe a criminal could be so reckless doing this when there are other ways of spiking people.
Needles found when frisking, people realising they’re being pricked… vs. dropping some powder in a drink. Genuinely couldn’t believe someone who put thought into spiking would ever consider it.
Always had the hallmarks of mass psychogenic illness, disease with common psychogenic symptoms or symptoms with an otherwise obvious explanation, no reasonable physical explanation and an outbreak that seemingly spreads rapidly after a well publicised media report leading to hundreds of cases of a previously unreported condition and grows as media coverage grows.
There was another example recently with first responders in the US treating opiate overdoses and then experiencing “fentanyl poisoning” with symptoms that did not match opiate toxicity and no physical explanation as to how fentanyl would have entered their bodies. No one ever wants to believe they were a victim of mass panic either.
Why would rapists start using injection when police aren’t even able to stop drinks being spiked?
You can’t inject someone just by stabbing them in the arse with a syringe!
It doesn’t matter that it isn’t true, it’ll become part of common folklore anyway, just like nightclub drink spiking has. That’s how moral panics work.
If the police say it then it must be true! After all, the police in the uk aren’t known rapists/murderers of women or anything are they?
We know. It was utterly implausible.
Now, where have all the people gone in the last threads when this nonsense started, saying they had been spiked or knew a girl who knew a girl who got drunk but just passed out once complaining of spiking by injection?
As it happens I was thinking this over recently- the Idea of ‘spikings’ does sound like a kind of cultural syndrome seemingly only reported by university students, possibly young people being away from home for the first time and lockdown lifting?
I did suspect it was overblown and police were taking it overly seriously due to political pressure and a need to be ‘seen to do something to protect the innocent’.
[the adult equivalent of this?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-care_sex-abuse_hysteria)
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How many of these alleged spikings are caused by students getting pissed for the first time and then blaming someone else?
This whole sorry story has come about because a few drunk idiots wouldn’t listen to reason. Despite being repeatedly told that this was highly improbable, impractical and likely impossible, they convinced themselves they had been targeted by Ninjas, rather than injuring themselves via the medium of alcohol. Disappointing that the media tried to push this as well.
We all knew this….
Drink spiking itself is incredibly rare, NHS have done studies every 5 years or so when students claim they’re being spiked in droves.
Every time we see the vastly majority with toxicology showing dangerous levels of alcohol in their system.
Out of the remainder with drugs detected in their system, the majority in A&E admit to consuming them consensually.
Going from the top of my head, out of the multiple studies of those tested within 24hours, usually in A&E, less than 10% of those who think they have been spiked have the ‘potential’ for this to be true.
And the final kicker? Police have found when people are spiked it’s usually down to friends doing it for non-sexual purposes (normally for a laugh) and at private parties, not bars and clubs.
Now add needle spiking? Hell no! Why the hell would a predator go to that much effort when they can just use alcohol with little to no suspicion?
I’m shocked i tells ya, shocked. This seemed like such an unlikely mode of attack from the start.
Missed this one, this seems like another example of journalists taking a tweet or instagram post and using it as hard evidence to get rage for increased revenue.
If so incredibly sad.
I believe the woman that went round the chat shows, news and I think parliament(?).
Definitely seemed like the drugs hadn’t worn off yet.
This crap is all over tiktok, so many girls just straight lying for views. Look it up. Even saying they were spiked multiple times. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve called them out lol
The police recently apologised to a girl for failing to give her the results to a test where she was spiked by injecting morphine.
So why is anyone believing the police?
Over a thousand cases reported in Spain during the summer but not a single one confirmed.A moral panic spreading & guaranteeing clicks despite medical experts saying that any injection leading to the effects reported would have to be intravenous & need a big needle.
Thank god, I’ve been telling anyone who will listen that this is nonsense from the start.