Yet somehow they still think deriding, mocking and alienating moderates/swing voters/the average Joe is a good idea.
“Centre ground” which is right wing compared to a lot of Europe, Canada, even certain policies practiced in the US…
What a strange read… Always useful to get a glimpse into other’s political worlds though. The author seemed to be quite open and be writing for their own side. Eye opening read
You can tell how screwed UK politics is when you have a website calling itself “Progressive Britain”, insisting it’s about being pro centre-left Labour, and it’s got an article like this on it – one that almost giddishly abandons the “left” part of it’s self applied progressive-left label as if it was a particularly stinky bag of dogshit in a park that has no doggie bag bins nearby.
What comes next? Nigel Farage guest writes some articles for Amnesty International? We ask Tommy Robinson on how to fight racism? Perhaps Nicola Sturgeon can inform us of the details of the conservative party.
Labour is only *permitted* to win whenever tories are in leadership positions, you mean.
Maybe its because whenever the left look like they might have a chance they’re sabotaged from within.
Hard to win from anything other than centrism when that’s all you put forward.
The labour centre is like a premier league team that sticks with the same players and tactics and as a result only wins 20-30% of the time.
Rather than adapt and change in an attempt to get more wins they just obsess over the wins they already have. It’s pathetic.
If Labour Left really believed they could win on their own then they’d start a new insurgent party. The fact that they don’t even now when they’re probably at the strongest they’ve been in years says rather a lot.
The simple reality is that in order to win they need the electorate who are inclined to vote Centre to Centre-Left but refuse to admit that there is a pragmatic compromise that has to be made to attract their votes in terms of tone and policy which inevitably leads you away from a pure Left wing position. This inevitably leads to accusations of political impurity (“Red Tories” etc) so around and around we go. Expecting these voters who sit in the Centre to sign up to a “revolutionary manifesto” has always been naive because they are already largely invested into the current societal system (careers, houses, businesses, social status, future plans etc) which is what dictates their politics in the first place. You’d need some significant societal distress and a total failure of the political establishment for these people to vote solidly Left (or conversely solidly Right).
At what point did the centre ground change from the middle to being just left of the Tories?
Come October 2024 (assuming the next GE is in Dec 2024) Tony Blair will have been the only Labour leader to have won a general election in 50 years or half a century if you prefer.
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Yet somehow they still think deriding, mocking and alienating moderates/swing voters/the average Joe is a good idea.
“Centre ground” which is right wing compared to a lot of Europe, Canada, even certain policies practiced in the US…
What a strange read… Always useful to get a glimpse into other’s political worlds though. The author seemed to be quite open and be writing for their own side. Eye opening read
You can tell how screwed UK politics is when you have a website calling itself “Progressive Britain”, insisting it’s about being pro centre-left Labour, and it’s got an article like this on it – one that almost giddishly abandons the “left” part of it’s self applied progressive-left label as if it was a particularly stinky bag of dogshit in a park that has no doggie bag bins nearby.
What comes next? Nigel Farage guest writes some articles for Amnesty International? We ask Tommy Robinson on how to fight racism? Perhaps Nicola Sturgeon can inform us of the details of the conservative party.
Labour is only *permitted* to win whenever tories are in leadership positions, you mean.
Maybe its because whenever the left look like they might have a chance they’re sabotaged from within.
Hard to win from anything other than centrism when that’s all you put forward.
The labour centre is like a premier league team that sticks with the same players and tactics and as a result only wins 20-30% of the time.
Rather than adapt and change in an attempt to get more wins they just obsess over the wins they already have. It’s pathetic.
If Labour Left really believed they could win on their own then they’d start a new insurgent party. The fact that they don’t even now when they’re probably at the strongest they’ve been in years says rather a lot.
The simple reality is that in order to win they need the electorate who are inclined to vote Centre to Centre-Left but refuse to admit that there is a pragmatic compromise that has to be made to attract their votes in terms of tone and policy which inevitably leads you away from a pure Left wing position. This inevitably leads to accusations of political impurity (“Red Tories” etc) so around and around we go. Expecting these voters who sit in the Centre to sign up to a “revolutionary manifesto” has always been naive because they are already largely invested into the current societal system (careers, houses, businesses, social status, future plans etc) which is what dictates their politics in the first place. You’d need some significant societal distress and a total failure of the political establishment for these people to vote solidly Left (or conversely solidly Right).
At what point did the centre ground change from the middle to being just left of the Tories?
Come October 2024 (assuming the next GE is in Dec 2024) Tony Blair will have been the only Labour leader to have won a general election in 50 years or half a century if you prefer.