Sad fact here. Beagles are used because they are one of the more trusting dogs.
It’s so sad knowing that so many puppies are tortured and killed. That place needs shutting down.
It’s easy to be against this type of testing but if it’s curing children with cancer, helping combat dementia, keeping mother’s safe during pregnancy and helping protect the world against pandemics it’s a topic that needs active discussion not knee jerk reaction like this..(I’m prepared for the down votes btw).
Know I’ll get downvoted for this, but animal testing does serve a purpose. It’s not a heartless evil, and the advances produced by it have likely saved some of the protestors (or family members) lives through the treatments developed by it.
I know it’s not very fuzzy wuzzy, and people love dogs, but it is vital. Emotions get in the way of progress.
29 days later, the Beaglegeddon
now imagine if they had rescued pigs/cows/chickens from a slaughterhouse instead people would be calling them terrorists lmao
I hope peoples opinions remain sympathetic to the animal right activists even if the animal were rats. I have a feeling they’ll suddenly become extremists but ill keep hoping
Just change the species and people will call them extremists. Rescuing cows, chickens, and pigs from the animal holocaust: ❌. Rescuing dogs from testing facilities or from a scorching car in the summer: ✅.
MBR isn’t actually a testing facility. It’s where the animals are bred. They’re often used to test the toxicity of drugs but not at that facility.
So we might develop a new drug to combat an illness, but before it goes to human trials they test if there are any long-term implications in taking the drugs for extended periods of time.
It is quite horrible. But I also think it’s, sadly, necessary.
So animal activists are praised and adored when they rescue puppies from testing facilities (a purpose they were bred for), but rescuing dying piglets from factory farms is ‘stealing’, ‘disgusting’ and ‘extreme.’
Nice.
People can criticise activists all they want, they have massive fucking bollocks and are willing to take a stand against digusting behaviour by going to prison. Massive props to these guys and gals.
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Gosh what could possibly go wrong with releasing animals that may have been experimented upon by being deliberately infected with who knows what….?
I’m no supporter of vivisection but this is plain stoopid.
Never understood the love for dogs over other animals. I see no problem with testing on them, or indeed eating them if that were very much possible in the UK.
These comments are surprising to see, I hope none of you who are cheering this on had a Covid vaccine, pre-clincial testing is essential. All of the Covid vaccines would have been tested in animals: mice, rats, rabbits, pigs, dogs and monkeys are the common choices for pharmaceuticals.
It’s not perfect and a lot fails but there isn’t any viable alternatives right now for full body safety assessment. There are some in-vitro study types but these usually focus on a very particular aspect or toxicological effect. Companies are trying to find alternatives and focus on reducing numbers of animals required to bare minimum required to generate the data required.
Extinction Rebellion have accomplished nothing with this, a pointless virtue signal more will be bred to replace those taken.
So, can I take it people would stop taking Medicines that were produced due to Animal testing? With some luck we might get rid of science deniers and lower the total population therefore reducing carbon emissions produced from such people
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WIN, WIN and WIN, go on be winners.
‘Hi Dave, yeah pick up another sack of cute beagle puppies from the farm will you. Cheers.’
Reminder these are the same lot that released huge numbers of Mink damaging the .U.K. ecosystem and still refuses to acknowledge it.
Also alot of the, “change species and they’d be considered terrorists” replies seem a suspiciously boiler plate.
Animal testing is a requirement for medicines. As the meme goes everyone gangsta until they, their families or friends need medicines.
I wonder how many of these pudding brains have pets and give them medicines when they are sick without the slightest thought for how they came to be available.
What kind of tests? The article fails to mention this. I wonder how long these beagles live for on average.
Ahhh yes animal testing, the same testing that has helped developed countless life saving and world changing medicines that save the lives of millions of people world wide. And the people who say it’s wrong that have most likely benefitted from these medicines multiple times in their life.
As someone working in scientific research the uneducated opinions in this thread are hilarious
I used to see animal testing as a ‘necessary evil’ until I found out that the vast majority of animal trials fail on humans anyway.
This type of testing is an unfortunate necessity and will remain so until a more robust computer modelling can prove that it’s as accurate.
I wouldn’t want to take a new medical treatment on a trial that hadn’t gone through an animal toxic study.
What’s very clear in this thread is that nobody here works in the pharma industry.
Ya’ll are very misinformed on what these animals are used for and what it actually takes to get safe, effective medicines to the general population.
Is it sad? Yes. Is there an effective alternative? No.
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Sad fact here. Beagles are used because they are one of the more trusting dogs.
It’s so sad knowing that so many puppies are tortured and killed. That place needs shutting down.
It’s easy to be against this type of testing but if it’s curing children with cancer, helping combat dementia, keeping mother’s safe during pregnancy and helping protect the world against pandemics it’s a topic that needs active discussion not knee jerk reaction like this..(I’m prepared for the down votes btw).
Know I’ll get downvoted for this, but animal testing does serve a purpose. It’s not a heartless evil, and the advances produced by it have likely saved some of the protestors (or family members) lives through the treatments developed by it.
I know it’s not very fuzzy wuzzy, and people love dogs, but it is vital. Emotions get in the way of progress.
29 days later, the Beaglegeddon
now imagine if they had rescued pigs/cows/chickens from a slaughterhouse instead people would be calling them terrorists lmao
I hope peoples opinions remain sympathetic to the animal right activists even if the animal were rats. I have a feeling they’ll suddenly become extremists but ill keep hoping
Just change the species and people will call them extremists. Rescuing cows, chickens, and pigs from the animal holocaust: ❌. Rescuing dogs from testing facilities or from a scorching car in the summer: ✅.
MBR isn’t actually a testing facility. It’s where the animals are bred. They’re often used to test the toxicity of drugs but not at that facility.
So we might develop a new drug to combat an illness, but before it goes to human trials they test if there are any long-term implications in taking the drugs for extended periods of time.
It is quite horrible. But I also think it’s, sadly, necessary.
So animal activists are praised and adored when they rescue puppies from testing facilities (a purpose they were bred for), but rescuing dying piglets from factory farms is ‘stealing’, ‘disgusting’ and ‘extreme.’
Nice.
People can criticise activists all they want, they have massive fucking bollocks and are willing to take a stand against digusting behaviour by going to prison. Massive props to these guys and gals.
[deleted]
Gosh what could possibly go wrong with releasing animals that may have been experimented upon by being deliberately infected with who knows what….?
I’m no supporter of vivisection but this is plain stoopid.
Never understood the love for dogs over other animals. I see no problem with testing on them, or indeed eating them if that were very much possible in the UK.
These comments are surprising to see, I hope none of you who are cheering this on had a Covid vaccine, pre-clincial testing is essential. All of the Covid vaccines would have been tested in animals: mice, rats, rabbits, pigs, dogs and monkeys are the common choices for pharmaceuticals.
It’s not perfect and a lot fails but there isn’t any viable alternatives right now for full body safety assessment. There are some in-vitro study types but these usually focus on a very particular aspect or toxicological effect. Companies are trying to find alternatives and focus on reducing numbers of animals required to bare minimum required to generate the data required.
Extinction Rebellion have accomplished nothing with this, a pointless virtue signal more will be bred to replace those taken.
So, can I take it people would stop taking Medicines that were produced due to Animal testing? With some luck we might get rid of science deniers and lower the total population therefore reducing carbon emissions produced from such people
​
WIN, WIN and WIN, go on be winners.
‘Hi Dave, yeah pick up another sack of cute beagle puppies from the farm will you. Cheers.’
Reminder these are the same lot that released huge numbers of Mink damaging the .U.K. ecosystem and still refuses to acknowledge it.
Also alot of the, “change species and they’d be considered terrorists” replies seem a suspiciously boiler plate.
Animal testing is a requirement for medicines. As the meme goes everyone gangsta until they, their families or friends need medicines.
I wonder how many of these pudding brains have pets and give them medicines when they are sick without the slightest thought for how they came to be available.
What kind of tests? The article fails to mention this. I wonder how long these beagles live for on average.
Ahhh yes animal testing, the same testing that has helped developed countless life saving and world changing medicines that save the lives of millions of people world wide. And the people who say it’s wrong that have most likely benefitted from these medicines multiple times in their life.
As someone working in scientific research the uneducated opinions in this thread are hilarious
I used to see animal testing as a ‘necessary evil’ until I found out that the vast majority of animal trials fail on humans anyway.
This type of testing is an unfortunate necessity and will remain so until a more robust computer modelling can prove that it’s as accurate.
I wouldn’t want to take a new medical treatment on a trial that hadn’t gone through an animal toxic study.
What’s very clear in this thread is that nobody here works in the pharma industry.
Ya’ll are very misinformed on what these animals are used for and what it actually takes to get safe, effective medicines to the general population.
Is it sad? Yes. Is there an effective alternative? No.