Large number of people trying to force their way in?
WTF is wrong with these people?
I’ve looked at the videos and it appears some of the crowd were being total dicks. There’s been a few incidents at the O2 in Glasgow where crowds have tried to force their way in. It’s always rap concerts this happens at.
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The absolute state of twitter at the moment, people having a go at police for being heavy handed stopping people rushing the venue AFTER the crush.
Can already see people jumping on the fuck the police thing just because it’s a concert/gig with a mainly BAME audience (they can do no wrong)
There literally would have been deaths without the police input
Just fuck off before we have no police at all
Videos of this look fucking terrifying. I hope the people in hospital recover swiftly.
Been to many metal gigs at Brixton, literally never had any issues there with crowds, there are definitely genres of music I’d never see live for my own safety.
Some people from secondary school never left secondary school mentality
Ive come back to the UK for a few months after 15 years in Asia and have to say from an outsiders view this is a decaying society, in many ways, not just in terms of crime. What a mess the UK has become in the last few decades.
Waiting for the inevitable “it wasn’t the people forcing their way in illegally fault, it was the [Police] [Fire Service] [Government] [Society]” *delete as appropriate
I’ve worked concert venue security a few times, And let me just say that a large crowd of emotionly heightened people is the most terrifying thing to be around.
I was there last night. I got to the venue at 7.45 and got in at 8.20. The artist got on stage at 10pm. At 10.09 his performance was cut short. We were told that there was a breech so I left immediately. Leaving was when the nightmare unfolded. There were loads of people outside and the ambulance guys were trying to get through. I saw 4 girls on the floor receiving CPR. Absolutely horrible experience for what should have been a great show. And just to clarify, Asake is not a rap artist and he doesn’t make ‘gangster’ music just wholesome Afrobeats music.
Reading through this thread and it’s so weird, my dogs just barking like crazy!
I recently went to a heavy metal gig watching In Flames. The security was decent, plenty of people, checks being made and no issues, always has been good.
Absolute nothing to do with the behaviour of the crowd . I blame the venue , the security , the police , institutional racism and the Royal Family .
Very rare that this happens in the UK considering the history around Liverpool etc. and our healthy and safety culture. I’ve noticed a lot of shit happening in the UK that wouldn’t have happened pre-COVID, it’s like nobody gives a fuck anymore about safety or doing their job especially in infrastructure and the lower paid sectors (understandable). But this attitude is extremely hard to shift and I’m fearful we just slowly regress into a less developed country due to peoples terrible attitudes. You can’t blame the government for everything.
Just a quick safety tip for anyone who ends up in a crush or packed area. Put your arms up like a boxer in front of your chest. Also flow with the crowd, don’t try to stop the movement you feel as crowd wave surges cause a wave effect and trying to stop it causes more danger. This can potentially save your life in this situation.
If you’re somewhere like a door entry way, narrow hallway etc avoid the sides. If there’s a turn wherever you are that’s walled off avoid the inner corner, stick to the outside.
Just my personal experience (and I was not there): it seems that after COVID, venues have forgotten how to handle crowds. I can see it everywhere: long, completely unacceptable queues are the norm now.
Those queues are a safety risk, and should not happen. Why was there still a queue outside halfway through the concert? The people with tickets should have gone in by then, and the people without tickets should have been sent home. It is just basic crowd management, and that seems to have failed here.
And as usual, all the news articles seem to be just copies of each other. Nobody seems to have any actual information beyond the police statement, and we all know that cannot be trusted. Some very simple facts would really help to put this into perspective. Here is a factoid: the tickets sold out within minutes, so a strong demand should have been anticipated by the venue.
I know it’s important to wait for a full report on the causes but goodness me there are some concerning clips on social media. The concept of forming a nice orderly queue outside the venue and waiting patiently to get in seems as if it was completely unknown to a lot of people who showed up.
I’ve been to maybe 10 gigs at Brixton over the years, never seen any trouble
Meanwhile we all blame politicians, cops, venues, rich people, poor people, the average person fking sucks just as much as those all, like wtf just wait be patient
Why does this comment section feel so weird? Nobody commenting seems to have been actually there, and there’s so little public information about what happened, yet so many people here are totally comfortable to ascribe blame. Why do people feel such a strong urge to point the finger??
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Hopefully everyone will be alright
Large number of people trying to force their way in?
WTF is wrong with these people?
I’ve looked at the videos and it appears some of the crowd were being total dicks. There’s been a few incidents at the O2 in Glasgow where crowds have tried to force their way in. It’s always rap concerts this happens at.
[deleted]
The absolute state of twitter at the moment, people having a go at police for being heavy handed stopping people rushing the venue AFTER the crush.
Can already see people jumping on the fuck the police thing just because it’s a concert/gig with a mainly BAME audience (they can do no wrong)
There literally would have been deaths without the police input
Just fuck off before we have no police at all
Videos of this look fucking terrifying. I hope the people in hospital recover swiftly.
Been to many metal gigs at Brixton, literally never had any issues there with crowds, there are definitely genres of music I’d never see live for my own safety.
Some people from secondary school never left secondary school mentality
Ive come back to the UK for a few months after 15 years in Asia and have to say from an outsiders view this is a decaying society, in many ways, not just in terms of crime. What a mess the UK has become in the last few decades.
Waiting for the inevitable “it wasn’t the people forcing their way in illegally fault, it was the [Police] [Fire Service] [Government] [Society]” *delete as appropriate
I’ve worked concert venue security a few times, And let me just say that a large crowd of emotionly heightened people is the most terrifying thing to be around.
I was there last night. I got to the venue at 7.45 and got in at 8.20. The artist got on stage at 10pm. At 10.09 his performance was cut short. We were told that there was a breech so I left immediately. Leaving was when the nightmare unfolded. There were loads of people outside and the ambulance guys were trying to get through. I saw 4 girls on the floor receiving CPR. Absolutely horrible experience for what should have been a great show. And just to clarify, Asake is not a rap artist and he doesn’t make ‘gangster’ music just wholesome Afrobeats music.
Reading through this thread and it’s so weird, my dogs just barking like crazy!
I recently went to a heavy metal gig watching In Flames. The security was decent, plenty of people, checks being made and no issues, always has been good.
Absolute nothing to do with the behaviour of the crowd . I blame the venue , the security , the police , institutional racism and the Royal Family .
https://twitter.com/rofiatcc/status/1603535510265274369?s=46&t=dmOtxdiox7d-Fl_Y6z113g
Very rare that this happens in the UK considering the history around Liverpool etc. and our healthy and safety culture. I’ve noticed a lot of shit happening in the UK that wouldn’t have happened pre-COVID, it’s like nobody gives a fuck anymore about safety or doing their job especially in infrastructure and the lower paid sectors (understandable). But this attitude is extremely hard to shift and I’m fearful we just slowly regress into a less developed country due to peoples terrible attitudes. You can’t blame the government for everything.
A similar thing happened at the [Nigerian WizKid concert](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/wizkid-o2-crowd-charge-barrier-b1965759.html) at the O2, why…?
Just a quick safety tip for anyone who ends up in a crush or packed area. Put your arms up like a boxer in front of your chest. Also flow with the crowd, don’t try to stop the movement you feel as crowd wave surges cause a wave effect and trying to stop it causes more danger. This can potentially save your life in this situation.
If you’re somewhere like a door entry way, narrow hallway etc avoid the sides. If there’s a turn wherever you are that’s walled off avoid the inner corner, stick to the outside.
Here is an example of a crowd wave surge: https://youtu.be/BgpdmAtbhbE
More safety info for crowd crush scenarios: https://theconversation.com/ten-tips-for-surviving-a-crowd-crush-112169
Just my personal experience (and I was not there): it seems that after COVID, venues have forgotten how to handle crowds. I can see it everywhere: long, completely unacceptable queues are the norm now.
Those queues are a safety risk, and should not happen. Why was there still a queue outside halfway through the concert? The people with tickets should have gone in by then, and the people without tickets should have been sent home. It is just basic crowd management, and that seems to have failed here.
And as usual, all the news articles seem to be just copies of each other. Nobody seems to have any actual information beyond the police statement, and we all know that cannot be trusted. Some very simple facts would really help to put this into perspective. Here is a factoid: the tickets sold out within minutes, so a strong demand should have been anticipated by the venue.
I know it’s important to wait for a full report on the causes but goodness me there are some concerning clips on social media. The concept of forming a nice orderly queue outside the venue and waiting patiently to get in seems as if it was completely unknown to a lot of people who showed up.
I’ve been to maybe 10 gigs at Brixton over the years, never seen any trouble
Meanwhile we all blame politicians, cops, venues, rich people, poor people, the average person fking sucks just as much as those all, like wtf just wait be patient
Why does this comment section feel so weird? Nobody commenting seems to have been actually there, and there’s so little public information about what happened, yet so many people here are totally comfortable to ascribe blame. Why do people feel such a strong urge to point the finger??