Ah, there we are, another reason to fuck off away from Ireland.
Are The US, The UK, Germany, China, India and the other major polluters doing this? I doubt it.
What about those of us that commute from rural areas and work jobs in cities at night?
Not much point in this without first improving public transport. People will still drive and pay for parking.
Great idea.
Once we have a world class transport system consisting of cheap rail, metro and reliable bus services.
Also required is a shit tonne of park and ride facilities that are cheap/free and served by said services.
That should only take 5/10 years to develop
Nice to see the Greens implementing something that will have an impact on the urban population who voted them in, rather than lumping more measures and taxes on rural Ireland.
Idiots, always going to low hanging fruit to make it look like they are doing something.
A big farce as always, punish road users before establishing a properly functioning alternative.
Dickheads
> An increase in fuel costs by up 65% by 2030 compared to 2018 prices is viewed as another way to “disincentivise private vehicle use”.
I don’t even know where to start with this one
I hope this applies to TD’s Dail parking but they would probably just expense it anyway.
Class. I work shift. So will the bus rock up at 5 AM to pick me up?
So you live in rural Ireland and your work is 10, 15 plus miles away. There is no bus service. You drive to work. You have to pay more for fuel. You have to pay to park at your workplace. How do you solve that problem?
You have to move. Can’t afford to buy house. Can’t get a mortgage. No place to rent.
Govt. Solution: don’t live in rural Ireland.
Why don’t they examine the employers forcing their staff to commute again, when COVID showed their roles could be performed remotely?
> An increase in fuel costs by up 65% by 2030 compared to 2018 prices is viewed as another way to “disincentivise private vehicle use”.
How about incentives rather than disincentives?
Also the target of 845,000 private electric vehicles is not going to happen. We have less than 100,000 on the road now and only about 100,000 new cars are sold a year. We’d need an outright ban on petrol and diesel to come close. Setting unrealistic targets is a pointless exercise
So I live about 50km away from my workplace in the city and have to be in for 7am, are they gonna put on a special bus or what? Absolute clowns the lot of them.
It took me 75 minutes to get from the airport to Drumcondra Dart Station last week using the No 16.
Then a further two hours to get home by train on the single-track line which means a train being delayed in the opposite direction delays every other train even in the opposite direction.
I can drive home from the airport in 90 minutes.
This tiny minority of extremists can come up with all the threats they like, but as long as public transport in Ireland is significantly less convenient than driving, nobody will be giving up the car.
If anything like this is brought in, I won’t be giving up my car. I will be voting against all the government TDs in my constituency, though.
They’ll be charging to park your car in your own driveway next
so basically if you live in a rural area but commute via car, you are absolutely fucked?.
Out of interest does anyone know if there’s been any talk of improving Sunday public transport hours?
My gf does shift work in a hospital and needs to be in work for 7.15. The buses near us don’t start until 8 on a Sunday so either I need to drop or her or she has to get a taxi (she doesn’t drive). She gets public transport every other day.
Cant have shit in Ireland
I can’t see this flying, I’m all for doing my part but not at a needless cost. No matter how much tariffs they put on parking I still need to drive to work.
I’m currently commuting 160km 3 days a week due to not being able to find accommodation near where I work. There’s so much to do on behalf of this government before they make using cars extortionately expensive
They’re taking a metaphorical shite in Sinn Feinn’s heating duct before leaving the building.
Death by thousand cuts.
I wonder at some point will the Government consider policies that make life easier for people and reward them for certain behaviours instead of ways of punishing everyone to try force them to do the things the Government promised they’d achieve. They’re likely shitty parents that slap the child for bad behaviour instead of encouraging good behaviour, and are then surprised their kids fucking hate them.
They tried this for civil and public servants back in 2010. Didn’t work
If you want to take “one in five cars” off the road, then there are two possible approaches: you can improve alternative forms of transport so that they become more attractive than cars to those 20% of current car users, or you can make using cars more difficult and expensive to the point that 20% of your current car users are forced to stop using them no matter how good the alternatives are. Seems like the government prefers the latter approach.
So glad I left. Country bleeds you dry at every corner.
More stick. Still no carrot.
because it’s not expensive enough to work?
Sure, ya can have fuckin’ nothin’.
Headline: government takes more money from its citizens, SHOCKER.
The beatings continue until the morale improves.
Govt investigating getting voted out of office.
Flying the revnue flag, this has been a burner for a long time.
Going straight for the stick as usual. All punishment and no incentive.
Last week, I finished my shift late in Cork. I finished at 20:15. The last train out of Cork to Dublin was 20:20. I then tried to hop on the bus at 23:00 to Dublin. It was full. I waited in the cold until 02:00 to take the next bus (I had too much stuff to head back to my place). Now, this is my experience between the two biggest cities in Ireland.
I am not even going to start on my experience of public-transport, which goes every 2-4 hours, in Donegal and essentially consists of some random (but really lovely!) guy called Jeff who drives around in a white van
The great populist politics; let’s leak all ideas and see which one causes the least noise and then we’ll roll that out and we all think it could have been worse……
Another fleecing what’s new in this kip of a country
In Dublin this works only if we have adequate public transport and we don’t. We need four or five more luas lines for this to work.
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Ah, there we are, another reason to fuck off away from Ireland.
Are The US, The UK, Germany, China, India and the other major polluters doing this? I doubt it.
What about those of us that commute from rural areas and work jobs in cities at night?
Not much point in this without first improving public transport. People will still drive and pay for parking.
Great idea.
Once we have a world class transport system consisting of cheap rail, metro and reliable bus services.
Also required is a shit tonne of park and ride facilities that are cheap/free and served by said services.
That should only take 5/10 years to develop
Nice to see the Greens implementing something that will have an impact on the urban population who voted them in, rather than lumping more measures and taxes on rural Ireland.
Idiots, always going to low hanging fruit to make it look like they are doing something.
A big farce as always, punish road users before establishing a properly functioning alternative.
Dickheads
> An increase in fuel costs by up 65% by 2030 compared to 2018 prices is viewed as another way to “disincentivise private vehicle use”.
I don’t even know where to start with this one
I hope this applies to TD’s Dail parking but they would probably just expense it anyway.
Class. I work shift. So will the bus rock up at 5 AM to pick me up?
So you live in rural Ireland and your work is 10, 15 plus miles away. There is no bus service. You drive to work. You have to pay more for fuel. You have to pay to park at your workplace. How do you solve that problem?
You have to move. Can’t afford to buy house. Can’t get a mortgage. No place to rent.
Govt. Solution: don’t live in rural Ireland.
Why don’t they examine the employers forcing their staff to commute again, when COVID showed their roles could be performed remotely?
> An increase in fuel costs by up 65% by 2030 compared to 2018 prices is viewed as another way to “disincentivise private vehicle use”.
How about incentives rather than disincentives?
Also the target of 845,000 private electric vehicles is not going to happen. We have less than 100,000 on the road now and only about 100,000 new cars are sold a year. We’d need an outright ban on petrol and diesel to come close. Setting unrealistic targets is a pointless exercise
So I live about 50km away from my workplace in the city and have to be in for 7am, are they gonna put on a special bus or what? Absolute clowns the lot of them.
It took me 75 minutes to get from the airport to Drumcondra Dart Station last week using the No 16.
Then a further two hours to get home by train on the single-track line which means a train being delayed in the opposite direction delays every other train even in the opposite direction.
I can drive home from the airport in 90 minutes.
This tiny minority of extremists can come up with all the threats they like, but as long as public transport in Ireland is significantly less convenient than driving, nobody will be giving up the car.
If anything like this is brought in, I won’t be giving up my car. I will be voting against all the government TDs in my constituency, though.
They’ll be charging to park your car in your own driveway next
so basically if you live in a rural area but commute via car, you are absolutely fucked?.
Out of interest does anyone know if there’s been any talk of improving Sunday public transport hours?
My gf does shift work in a hospital and needs to be in work for 7.15. The buses near us don’t start until 8 on a Sunday so either I need to drop or her or she has to get a taxi (she doesn’t drive). She gets public transport every other day.
Cant have shit in Ireland
I can’t see this flying, I’m all for doing my part but not at a needless cost. No matter how much tariffs they put on parking I still need to drive to work.
I’m currently commuting 160km 3 days a week due to not being able to find accommodation near where I work. There’s so much to do on behalf of this government before they make using cars extortionately expensive
They’re taking a metaphorical shite in Sinn Feinn’s heating duct before leaving the building.
Death by thousand cuts.
I wonder at some point will the Government consider policies that make life easier for people and reward them for certain behaviours instead of ways of punishing everyone to try force them to do the things the Government promised they’d achieve. They’re likely shitty parents that slap the child for bad behaviour instead of encouraging good behaviour, and are then surprised their kids fucking hate them.
They tried this for civil and public servants back in 2010. Didn’t work
If you want to take “one in five cars” off the road, then there are two possible approaches: you can improve alternative forms of transport so that they become more attractive than cars to those 20% of current car users, or you can make using cars more difficult and expensive to the point that 20% of your current car users are forced to stop using them no matter how good the alternatives are. Seems like the government prefers the latter approach.
So glad I left. Country bleeds you dry at every corner.
More stick. Still no carrot.
because it’s not expensive enough to work?
Sure, ya can have fuckin’ nothin’.
Headline: government takes more money from its citizens, SHOCKER.
The beatings continue until the morale improves.
Govt investigating getting voted out of office.
Flying the revnue flag, this has been a burner for a long time.
Going straight for the stick as usual. All punishment and no incentive.
Last week, I finished my shift late in Cork. I finished at 20:15. The last train out of Cork to Dublin was 20:20. I then tried to hop on the bus at 23:00 to Dublin. It was full. I waited in the cold until 02:00 to take the next bus (I had too much stuff to head back to my place). Now, this is my experience between the two biggest cities in Ireland.
I am not even going to start on my experience of public-transport, which goes every 2-4 hours, in Donegal and essentially consists of some random (but really lovely!) guy called Jeff who drives around in a white van
The great populist politics; let’s leak all ideas and see which one causes the least noise and then we’ll roll that out and we all think it could have been worse……
Another fleecing what’s new in this kip of a country
In Dublin this works only if we have adequate public transport and we don’t. We need four or five more luas lines for this to work.