>Car journeys and flights taken by the richest British people – especially “white, wealthy middle-aged men” – used more energy that year than 60% of the population got through in total.
It seems like no surprise,
It’s 4 litres per 100km per passenger, so a 10,000km flight is 400 litres, or 10 full tanks in a small car, which for me is ~20 weeks fuel and a lot of that driving has a passenger.
Personally, i last went on a plane in 2008 – don’t want to be lectured by electric car owners who also go on numerous flights.
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Always frustrating when these articles don’t give an example of the £ salary this reflects.
It’s quite likely it’s lower than people think.
We know
Maybe people should be shaming those people when they boast about flying somewhere on what is clearly a private jet
Meanwhile we are being told that we need to pony up for a 30 grand heat pump and a 40 grand electric car or we’ll be green-shamed
Just a reminder that globally aviation only accounts for 2% of all greenhouse gas emissions. Important to put things into perspective.
The way some of these headlines are written you’d think it was more like 50%…
What a Tory might say:
The richest will make more for the economy by flying than the poorest do overall and the richest donate far more to the party than the poorest ever will.
In other news, water is wet.
I mean it’s kind of obvious that the wealthiest who won private jets, mega yachts, own multiple homes, multiple cars including fuel inefficient ones…
With all these assets… Produce multiple times what poor people do.
The fix is rather obvious too, tax private jets in a way that is proportional to their damage.
Not sure what race, sex or age has to do with this, it’s clear a 65 year old Asian woman could be in this category or a Brazilian footballer in his 20s. It would be nice if wealth disparities stopped getting conflated with identity politics.
Clearly Dave down the pub who bikes to work at Asda and hasn’t been on holiday abroad in 10 years isn’t part of the problem.
Rich people can afford to spend money on carbon outputting consumption, news at 10…
Ending/restricting flying would largely hit the richest hardest.
But people feel entitled to their £36 flight to prague and so will angrily resist the idea that maybe we shouldn’t be flying all over the place willy nilly.
Deeply funny.
The top 10% are people earning anything over 60k. There’s an awful lot of lumping happening in that top bracket.
“Richest People in UK use more……” is about reyt.
Sorry but JSO said the poorest need to suffer from their protests instead for awareness or something.
Surely the point of capitalism is to allocated limited resources. Seems fair that emissions are allocated to those that can afford it…
I thought individual carbon footprint was just a scam dreamt up by fossil fuel companies to prevent structural change?
Anyway, the top 100 companies in the world produce like 90 percent of the worlds CO2 so why should I make changes.
I am very smart.
So a person that can afford to fly lots and lots and lots uses more energy than a person that can’t fly at all and is possibly choosing between heat or food.
#fat&freezing.
I dont know the science, but Ive always presumed that a life time of me recycling wouldnt even offset a single transatlantic flight, yet cost me probable days of combined time sorting and checking and dismantling packaging to recycle it properly. But of course we get fined and punished and guilt tripped for not recycling properly while billionaires are taking 5 minute private jet flights
We need to copy what France has done and restrict domestic flights on private jets or outright ban it. No need for these rich people to burn all that oil hopping around the country on short flights
I like the needless attack on white men in the article…..
The rich are like the new lords of the UK but they give even less back
This is why things like banning plastic straws are so fucking pointless.
No fucking shit these recent fuck-ups since brexit has only been beneficial to the rich the game is rigged and no-one seems to care
The fact is the populations of the US, Canada, Europe, Australia, NZ, Japan and a few others, and the top 5% in most other countries cause 80% of global warming, if not directly then also as part of our consumer society. Of these the richest 10% in all societies but mostly those above cause between 40-50% of the total.
Our boiler died tonight, engineer can’t come out til tomorrow morning so we spent a good hour driving around trying to get an electric heater just to get us and the pets through the night. My Mrs expressed some concern about the environmental impact of all this unnecessary driving but we spent a bare fraction of the CO2 trying to keep warm that a rich person would spend flying abroad.
And we never even found a heater.
No… It’s almost as if a top heavy system which favours maximum resources to a few to the cost of the planet is a shit system.
See, this is why I call bullshit on King Charles III as an environmentalist.
and could all of those strikers that are affecting the daily routine, go back to your posts now.!!!
On the topic of flying, I costs me less to fly home than to take the train, and that’s using a rail card.
The war on commercial flights is an attack on the working class like most things. I think you’ll find private jets are a far bigger culprit.
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>Car journeys and flights taken by the richest British people – especially “white, wealthy middle-aged men” – used more energy that year than 60% of the population got through in total.
It seems like no surprise,
It’s 4 litres per 100km per passenger, so a 10,000km flight is 400 litres, or 10 full tanks in a small car, which for me is ~20 weeks fuel and a lot of that driving has a passenger.
Personally, i last went on a plane in 2008 – don’t want to be lectured by electric car owners who also go on numerous flights.
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Always frustrating when these articles don’t give an example of the £ salary this reflects.
It’s quite likely it’s lower than people think.
We know
Maybe people should be shaming those people when they boast about flying somewhere on what is clearly a private jet
Meanwhile we are being told that we need to pony up for a 30 grand heat pump and a 40 grand electric car or we’ll be green-shamed
Just a reminder that globally aviation only accounts for 2% of all greenhouse gas emissions. Important to put things into perspective.
The way some of these headlines are written you’d think it was more like 50%…
What a Tory might say:
The richest will make more for the economy by flying than the poorest do overall and the richest donate far more to the party than the poorest ever will.
In other news, water is wet.
I mean it’s kind of obvious that the wealthiest who won private jets, mega yachts, own multiple homes, multiple cars including fuel inefficient ones…
With all these assets… Produce multiple times what poor people do.
The fix is rather obvious too, tax private jets in a way that is proportional to their damage.
Not sure what race, sex or age has to do with this, it’s clear a 65 year old Asian woman could be in this category or a Brazilian footballer in his 20s. It would be nice if wealth disparities stopped getting conflated with identity politics.
Clearly Dave down the pub who bikes to work at Asda and hasn’t been on holiday abroad in 10 years isn’t part of the problem.
Rich people can afford to spend money on carbon outputting consumption, news at 10…
This sub doesn’t like [being told this stuff](https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/zfxu2z/comment/ize67wl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
Ending/restricting flying would largely hit the richest hardest.
But people feel entitled to their £36 flight to prague and so will angrily resist the idea that maybe we shouldn’t be flying all over the place willy nilly.
Deeply funny.
The top 10% are people earning anything over 60k. There’s an awful lot of lumping happening in that top bracket.
“Richest People in UK use more……” is about reyt.
Sorry but JSO said the poorest need to suffer from their protests instead for awareness or something.
Surely the point of capitalism is to allocated limited resources. Seems fair that emissions are allocated to those that can afford it…
I thought individual carbon footprint was just a scam dreamt up by fossil fuel companies to prevent structural change?
Anyway, the top 100 companies in the world produce like 90 percent of the worlds CO2 so why should I make changes.
I am very smart.
So a person that can afford to fly lots and lots and lots uses more energy than a person that can’t fly at all and is possibly choosing between heat or food.
#fat&freezing.
I dont know the science, but Ive always presumed that a life time of me recycling wouldnt even offset a single transatlantic flight, yet cost me probable days of combined time sorting and checking and dismantling packaging to recycle it properly. But of course we get fined and punished and guilt tripped for not recycling properly while billionaires are taking 5 minute private jet flights
We need to copy what France has done and restrict domestic flights on private jets or outright ban it. No need for these rich people to burn all that oil hopping around the country on short flights
I like the needless attack on white men in the article…..
The rich are like the new lords of the UK but they give even less back
This is why things like banning plastic straws are so fucking pointless.
No fucking shit these recent fuck-ups since brexit has only been beneficial to the rich the game is rigged and no-one seems to care
The fact is the populations of the US, Canada, Europe, Australia, NZ, Japan and a few others, and the top 5% in most other countries cause 80% of global warming, if not directly then also as part of our consumer society. Of these the richest 10% in all societies but mostly those above cause between 40-50% of the total.
Our boiler died tonight, engineer can’t come out til tomorrow morning so we spent a good hour driving around trying to get an electric heater just to get us and the pets through the night. My Mrs expressed some concern about the environmental impact of all this unnecessary driving but we spent a bare fraction of the CO2 trying to keep warm that a rich person would spend flying abroad.
And we never even found a heater.
No… It’s almost as if a top heavy system which favours maximum resources to a few to the cost of the planet is a shit system.
See, this is why I call bullshit on King Charles III as an environmentalist.
and could all of those strikers that are affecting the daily routine, go back to your posts now.!!!
On the topic of flying, I costs me less to fly home than to take the train, and that’s using a rail card.
The war on commercial flights is an attack on the working class like most things. I think you’ll find private jets are a far bigger culprit.