It’s a momentous day, the fact we have nurses leaving the NHS to join shops like Lidl/Aldi for roughly the same pay without all the stress, abuse and long hours says absolutely everything you need to know about the pay structure. I know of three who left and are happier than ever.
Tragic because it could all be avoided if the government weren’t cunts.
12 years of torie rule has led to this don’t forget who’s to blame for this
FFS, come on Rishi, stop pandering to your back benchers, playing politics and just pay nurses a decent wage and let’s move on!!! You never know, if the NHS paid a decent wage it might keep/attract more staff.
Can we not just cut MPs pay and pay the pole who actually do stuff
Done out of necessity and not a decision they will have made lightly. This was not done on a whim, it is what twelve years of Tory governance has forced them to do. Nurses are not simply nurses because of a calling and good will does not pay bills or keep staffing levels safe. Nurses need fair pay and the NHS needs an adequate level of funding, not just ‘more’, it is the only way to ensure the NHS survives in any capacity.
How is it they can afford to give themselves pay rises every year and not nurses. Im sure the 10 billion needed would have been free if they werent giving each other dodgy PPE contracts, which apparently led to 4 billion being completely wasted. Maybe we should just start a weekly clap for them instead…
The country was warned that clapping wasn’t enough.
You can earn more money taking care of dogs and cats than you can taking care of humans. World is fucked
Infuriatingly some of them are being prevented from striking by being told (using fudged figures) they need to ensure “minimum levels of coverage” that are higher than their usual levels of service due to their chronic understaffing. So weirdly, strike day has resulted in MORE nurses than usual working.
Having watched my auntie work through the pandemic, this sickens me to my core. She was a hospice nurse, and can’t even talk about the amount of people she saw die. Nearly thirty years in the job and she’s packed it in because the hours, work, and emotional toll is no longer worth it. All this government had to do to prevent strike action was meet them for a discussion. Now we have one of the coldest Decembers I can remember with energy prices at a skyhigh. People will die because of this government’s ideological opposition to take even the most minimal of actions to improve conditions for some of the hardest working and caring people in our country. It’s despicable.
How much do nurses get paid has anyone got there wage scale.
**The government in Scotland avoided a nursing strike by holding talks on pay, an outcome that the RCN had hoped for in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.**
But sure “British”
I know of a few examples of people who have went through the training, then shortly left. Hours are too long, pay not great. One girl I know makes more money as a manager in a restaurant than what she did doing nursing. But of course it’s not just the money. It’s the hours and the disruption to private/family time. It’s a tragedy that the NHS has been driven to this place. The government are to blame of course. Generations of bad planning/management.
The past couple of years has shown that the government had money there to better the UK and the NHS and all the things that make the UK great but chose not too because of the tories underhanded deals to push people to unaffordable private care to line their own pockets. Our tax is just just not being used for what it should be used for.
Even the energy crisis now could have been avoided, green energy has been there to invest in.
I’m sure a Tory will say if the public had clapped more we wouldn’t be in this mess
I hope they get the pay and conditions they deserve! Doubt you’d see an MP with as many worries are our NHS staff right now!
It’s tragic that they have been given no choice to do this.
It’s not tragic that they’re doing it.
We should all be on fucking strike.
Let’s remember that this is the first time **ever** that nurses have gone on strike in England. Not during the general strikes of the 70s, not during Thatcher’s era when half the country was on strike….
This is the first time in history that nurses in the UK have felt driven to this, and it’s clearly not something they do lightly. I think that gives these strikes a significance that we don’t see elsewhere: this is not a militant union group who go on strike every year for more money
Reminder. The Tories can end this any time they want, but they won’t because the greedy twats do not give a single shaking fuck about us. All power to the nurses, and I hope they get everything they need to continue working and saving the good people of this country.
MP base pay in 2010 was £65,738. MP base pay in 2022 is £84,144.
Nurse base pay in 2010 was £21,176. Nurse base pay in 2022 is £27,055.
We are all in this together!
I’m planning on leaving the medical field completely soon. The way we’re treated by patients and our employers is such a kick in the teeth since the pandemic started. Good luck finding other suckers to be treated like shit after we all strike!
Its what the government wants. Now they have a viable excuse to force us into privatisation.
Don’t blame those nurses at all they need to do whats best for them and their families.
My trust is not on strike today but I did vote to strike and if I am able when it is our turn I will.
There are not enough nurses and the ones that are still standing are exhausted, unappreciated, and struggling, financially, physically and mentally. Literal common sense says if you want to attract people into doing shitty work you have to improve the pay, and this isn’t an industry where you can shrug your shoulders and say “oh well” because people can/will/do die when there are insufficient nursing staff around (I’m on nights and should be sleeping but there is definitely data that backs up having better nursing ratios).
The government says there isn’t enough money, but can they afford not to if the alternative is increasingly fewer nurses and the inevitable destruction of the ones we have, and the end of the NHS as we know it?
I worked throughout the pandemic as a carer. When you work a job like that most of the time you really do care for the people you look after. The main reason strikes have not happened is because of that reason. For those people to knowingly potentially put their patients at risk shows how serious this situation is. No care giver would ever want to put their patients in harms way, especially not for their own gain. But the NHS has been brought to its knees. There is nothing else for these people to do. What a sorry state of this country that they have to go against their pledge to fight for their own rights.
Tories pissed away 35 billion on a useless track and trace that never worked. 8 billion on PPE contracts to Matt Hancock’s neighbour that is also useless..
Now the nurses want a pay rise to help the cost of living crisis. A pay rise they haven’t had for 10 years, which cost 10 billion and they say they can’t afford it.. or something stupid like if nurses get pay raise then it helps Putin or some nonsense..
This government really think very little of the voters. Less still to the nurses.
General election or general strike
And “unaffordable” we hear yet again from ministers.
It’s always been affordable, and The People have unequivocally told Ministers to pay it repeatedly, instead of continually wasting money on pink elephants and vanity projects.
There is no shred of decency to them using such opaque and tawdry excuses, intentionally forcing nursing staff further into poverty.
I’d call that more than tragic, I’d call it outrageous.
GET THESE FUCKING TORIES THE FUCK OUT FFS! I’m fucking sick to death of this constant bullshit it’s disgusting!
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It’s a momentous day, the fact we have nurses leaving the NHS to join shops like Lidl/Aldi for roughly the same pay without all the stress, abuse and long hours says absolutely everything you need to know about the pay structure. I know of three who left and are happier than ever.
Tragic because it could all be avoided if the government weren’t cunts.
12 years of torie rule has led to this don’t forget who’s to blame for this
FFS, come on Rishi, stop pandering to your back benchers, playing politics and just pay nurses a decent wage and let’s move on!!! You never know, if the NHS paid a decent wage it might keep/attract more staff.
Can we not just cut MPs pay and pay the pole who actually do stuff
Done out of necessity and not a decision they will have made lightly. This was not done on a whim, it is what twelve years of Tory governance has forced them to do. Nurses are not simply nurses because of a calling and good will does not pay bills or keep staffing levels safe. Nurses need fair pay and the NHS needs an adequate level of funding, not just ‘more’, it is the only way to ensure the NHS survives in any capacity.
How is it they can afford to give themselves pay rises every year and not nurses. Im sure the 10 billion needed would have been free if they werent giving each other dodgy PPE contracts, which apparently led to 4 billion being completely wasted. Maybe we should just start a weekly clap for them instead…
The country was warned that clapping wasn’t enough.
You can earn more money taking care of dogs and cats than you can taking care of humans. World is fucked
Infuriatingly some of them are being prevented from striking by being told (using fudged figures) they need to ensure “minimum levels of coverage” that are higher than their usual levels of service due to their chronic understaffing. So weirdly, strike day has resulted in MORE nurses than usual working.
Having watched my auntie work through the pandemic, this sickens me to my core. She was a hospice nurse, and can’t even talk about the amount of people she saw die. Nearly thirty years in the job and she’s packed it in because the hours, work, and emotional toll is no longer worth it. All this government had to do to prevent strike action was meet them for a discussion. Now we have one of the coldest Decembers I can remember with energy prices at a skyhigh. People will die because of this government’s ideological opposition to take even the most minimal of actions to improve conditions for some of the hardest working and caring people in our country. It’s despicable.
How much do nurses get paid has anyone got there wage scale.
**The government in Scotland avoided a nursing strike by holding talks on pay, an outcome that the RCN had hoped for in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.**
But sure “British”
I know of a few examples of people who have went through the training, then shortly left. Hours are too long, pay not great. One girl I know makes more money as a manager in a restaurant than what she did doing nursing. But of course it’s not just the money. It’s the hours and the disruption to private/family time. It’s a tragedy that the NHS has been driven to this place. The government are to blame of course. Generations of bad planning/management.
The past couple of years has shown that the government had money there to better the UK and the NHS and all the things that make the UK great but chose not too because of the tories underhanded deals to push people to unaffordable private care to line their own pockets. Our tax is just just not being used for what it should be used for.
Even the energy crisis now could have been avoided, green energy has been there to invest in.
I’m sure a Tory will say if the public had clapped more we wouldn’t be in this mess
I hope they get the pay and conditions they deserve! Doubt you’d see an MP with as many worries are our NHS staff right now!
It’s tragic that they have been given no choice to do this.
It’s not tragic that they’re doing it.
We should all be on fucking strike.
Let’s remember that this is the first time **ever** that nurses have gone on strike in England. Not during the general strikes of the 70s, not during Thatcher’s era when half the country was on strike….
This is the first time in history that nurses in the UK have felt driven to this, and it’s clearly not something they do lightly. I think that gives these strikes a significance that we don’t see elsewhere: this is not a militant union group who go on strike every year for more money
Reminder. The Tories can end this any time they want, but they won’t because the greedy twats do not give a single shaking fuck about us. All power to the nurses, and I hope they get everything they need to continue working and saving the good people of this country.
MP base pay in 2010 was £65,738. MP base pay in 2022 is £84,144.
Nurse base pay in 2010 was £21,176. Nurse base pay in 2022 is £27,055.
We are all in this together!
I’m planning on leaving the medical field completely soon. The way we’re treated by patients and our employers is such a kick in the teeth since the pandemic started. Good luck finding other suckers to be treated like shit after we all strike!
Its what the government wants. Now they have a viable excuse to force us into privatisation.
Don’t blame those nurses at all they need to do whats best for them and their families.
My trust is not on strike today but I did vote to strike and if I am able when it is our turn I will.
There are not enough nurses and the ones that are still standing are exhausted, unappreciated, and struggling, financially, physically and mentally. Literal common sense says if you want to attract people into doing shitty work you have to improve the pay, and this isn’t an industry where you can shrug your shoulders and say “oh well” because people can/will/do die when there are insufficient nursing staff around (I’m on nights and should be sleeping but there is definitely data that backs up having better nursing ratios).
The government says there isn’t enough money, but can they afford not to if the alternative is increasingly fewer nurses and the inevitable destruction of the ones we have, and the end of the NHS as we know it?
I worked throughout the pandemic as a carer. When you work a job like that most of the time you really do care for the people you look after. The main reason strikes have not happened is because of that reason. For those people to knowingly potentially put their patients at risk shows how serious this situation is. No care giver would ever want to put their patients in harms way, especially not for their own gain. But the NHS has been brought to its knees. There is nothing else for these people to do. What a sorry state of this country that they have to go against their pledge to fight for their own rights.
Tories pissed away 35 billion on a useless track and trace that never worked. 8 billion on PPE contracts to Matt Hancock’s neighbour that is also useless..
Now the nurses want a pay rise to help the cost of living crisis. A pay rise they haven’t had for 10 years, which cost 10 billion and they say they can’t afford it.. or something stupid like if nurses get pay raise then it helps Putin or some nonsense..
This government really think very little of the voters. Less still to the nurses.
General election or general strike
And “unaffordable” we hear yet again from ministers.
It’s always been affordable, and The People have unequivocally told Ministers to pay it repeatedly, instead of continually wasting money on pink elephants and vanity projects.
There is no shred of decency to them using such opaque and tawdry excuses, intentionally forcing nursing staff further into poverty.
I’d call that more than tragic, I’d call it outrageous.
GET THESE FUCKING TORIES THE FUCK OUT FFS! I’m fucking sick to death of this constant bullshit it’s disgusting!